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Five Democrats Voted With The Fascists To PUNISH Sanctuary Cities! (Original Post) MayReasonRule Jun 2025 OP
I don't know much about any of these folks but it seems that every time I read something LoisB Jun 2025 #1
He is older than the hills too Captain Zero Jun 2025 #3
Isn't he also under investigation? karynnj Jun 2025 #24
Cuellar had no primary opponent in 2024. onenote Jun 2025 #32
Thanks. karynnj Jun 2025 #42
I reached out to him decades ago for some help, slightlv Jun 2025 #25
Disgusting. What use is he? LoisB Jun 2025 #27
He was worse than none, when I lived in Texas. slightlv Jun 2025 #30
Cuellar was hand picked by a bunch of Republicans. hamsterjill Jun 2025 #35
Wow. No wonder. Thanks for that background. LoisB Jun 2025 #36
If it's a democratic area go ahead and primary him? GoodRaisin Jun 2025 #44
One would think, right? hamsterjill Jun 2025 #45
It still would have passed anyway Captain Zero Jun 2025 #2
The wider the margin by which it passes, the greater the "Mandate" that the fools claim dickthegrouch Jun 2025 #4
Have you not been watching Republicans? They will claim they have a mandate even if it doesn't pass. W_HAMILTON Jun 2025 #8
GOP can yammer on about "bipartisan" pimpbot Jun 2025 #16
Rule: 1- 12 or so Democrats vote in a way that doesn't change anything and they're immediately betsuni Jun 2025 #38
Happy Saturday To You... I Whollly And Wholeheartedly Disagree MayReasonRule Jun 2025 #40
If they're running against Republicans mzmolly Jun 2025 #5
Unless a better Democrat wins the primary. And this is information to consider during the primaries. Scrivener7 Jun 2025 #7
These Democrats have been winning their primaries. W_HAMILTON Jun 2025 #9
Yes. But maybe someone better will run against them at primary time. Scrivener7 Jun 2025 #11
Cuellar still under indictment for BRIBERY Captain Zero Jun 2025 #14
Agree. mzmolly Jun 2025 #12
Don Davis is my Congressman dsc Jun 2025 #6
He is my Congressman, also wendyb-NC Jun 2025 #20
Here are the usual suspects Ritabert Jun 2025 #10
I know its not popular Samael13 Jun 2025 #13
I'd rather vote for candidates who do the right thing. milestogo Jun 2025 #15
It can sometimes be a hard call in a primary TomSlick Jun 2025 #17
Henry Cuellar is the Democrat who voted for the anti-abortion speak easy Jun 2025 #18
Enough with the "ultra liberal" crap lonely bird Jun 2025 #22
Hey Musk! BidenRocks Jun 2025 #19
Cuellar doesn't surprise me. soldierant Jun 2025 #21
Trump won her district in 2024. So its no surprise. onenote Jun 2025 #33
Oftentimes that is the best way to vote in the primary. I do believe there are exceptions - but, I agree, not many. soldierant Jun 2025 #46
My rep is on that list and she's going to have to change course to get my vote in 26. Ping Tung Jun 2025 #23
They all need to go. travelingthrulife Jun 2025 #26
what good are they et tu Jun 2025 #28
And replace them with Republicans? No thanks. onenote Jun 2025 #34
didn't say that et tu Jun 2025 #41
What you think is a better candidate will lose in these districts onenote Jun 2025 #43
Pragmatists? J_William_Ryan Jun 2025 #29
And the Dem. national committee wonders why I won't republianmushroom Jun 2025 #31
Fucking what? This is bullshit! Initech Jun 2025 #37
Post removed Post removed Jun 2025 #39

LoisB

(12,355 posts)
1. I don't know much about any of these folks but it seems that every time I read something
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 05:29 PM
Jun 2025

about Cuellar, it seems to be that he has voted with Republicans.

karynnj

(60,777 posts)
24. Isn't he also under investigation?
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:40 PM
Jun 2025

I think he almost lost a primary last time to an impressive contender. I suspect this is his last term

As to the others, I think Golden represents the more conservative part of Maine. MGP represents a district that had been red. Her win was a surprise.

onenote

(45,990 posts)
32. Cuellar had no primary opponent in 2024.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 09:53 PM
Jun 2025

Jessica Cisneros ran against him in the Democratic primary in 2022 and 2020 and narrowly lost. If she had won the nomination she very likely would have been crushed in the general election. Cuellar's district went for Trump in 2024 by a 53.1 - 45.8 margin.


karynnj

(60,777 posts)
42. Thanks.
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 11:14 AM
Jun 2025

Does that mean with his age and the district's voters, this is one we stand to lose? Making ONLY his vote for a (Democratic) speaker important.

slightlv

(7,438 posts)
25. I reached out to him decades ago for some help,
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:10 PM
Jun 2025

he was as bad as a republican back then, too. I have absolutely no use for him. I don't consider him a DINO, I consider him a republican.

hamsterjill

(16,967 posts)
35. Cuellar was hand picked by a bunch of Republicans.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 10:33 PM
Jun 2025

I know this because when he was first picked, I worked for one of the Republicans' companies. There were discussions about running him as a Democrat because the area that he serves is/was mostly Democratic. A decision was made and he ran as a Democrat.

Cuellar's record speaks for itself.

GoodRaisin

(10,724 posts)
44. If it's a democratic area go ahead and primary him?
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 01:41 PM
Jun 2025

I doubt democratic constituents like watching him vote with republicans.

hamsterjill

(16,967 posts)
45. One would think, right?
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 03:58 PM
Jun 2025

He's been primaried, but he won. He has a lot of money backers, and this is, after all, Texas.

dickthegrouch

(4,296 posts)
4. The wider the margin by which it passes, the greater the "Mandate" that the fools claim
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 05:43 PM
Jun 2025

It happens time after time, the GOP deplorables look at the gap between Yays and Nays and claim more of a mandate to pursue their insanity / cruelty / damage.

With "friends" like these folks, who needs enemies?

W_HAMILTON

(10,057 posts)
8. Have you not been watching Republicans? They will claim they have a mandate even if it doesn't pass.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 06:03 PM
Jun 2025

I think the posting of these sorts of votes where how individual Democrats vote don't ultimately matter is just to continue the almost decades-long mission by some to """take down the Democratic establishment."""

So, no, how these handful of Democrats voted won't matter one iota in whether Republicans claim they have a mandate or not, but they will be used to depress potential Democratic turnout by using it as another false example to push """both parties are the same""" bullshit, which ultimately only hurts Democrats because Republicans are a cult and they will vote Republican in the end regardless.

pimpbot

(1,161 posts)
16. GOP can yammer on about "bipartisan"
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 06:34 PM
Jun 2025

Now that some dems voted for it. I know we don't actually want to be like the GOP, but it would be nice if we could muster some spines and show a united front to whatever crazy bill they are trying to ramrod through.

betsuni

(28,700 posts)
38. Rule: 1- 12 or so Democrats vote in a way that doesn't change anything and they're immediately
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 11:34 PM
Jun 2025

named, breathless with outrage and disgust, as proof the whole party is an elderly wealthy elite corrupt establishment of Republican Lite/conservative/moderate/centrist/ THIRD WAY /Vichy Dems/bribed by oligarchs/hate and ignore the working class/will stop at nothing to defeat progress/always assumed to have evil motivations etc. etc. etc.

Of course if you ask them the names of all the shadowy evil enemies, who exactly is the "old guard of the Democratic Establishment" and who's the oligarchy supposedly controlling everything, names of Democrats who have changed votes because of campaign contributions, names of DNC members that are "rigging" elections, who are the elites, who are the Democrats "not fighting" and how do you know --- no no no, no names there. They just know they are right.

MayReasonRule

(4,011 posts)
40. Happy Saturday To You... I Whollly And Wholeheartedly Disagree
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 06:55 AM
Jun 2025

Not calling out bullshit does nothing but encourage ongoing bullshit.

Every time.

This is that.

Party unity is not defined by ignoring deleterious actions by members of our party.

Quite the opposite.

mzmolly

(52,613 posts)
5. If they're running against Republicans
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 05:57 PM
Jun 2025

I do know what to do. Vote for the less than perfect Democrat.

Scrivener7

(58,277 posts)
7. Unless a better Democrat wins the primary. And this is information to consider during the primaries.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 05:59 PM
Jun 2025

This is a ridiculous vote.

W_HAMILTON

(10,057 posts)
9. These Democrats have been winning their primaries.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 06:05 PM
Jun 2025

That's how they got into office to begin with.

I don't recognize all the names, but I recognize a few of the usual suspects and they have had primary challengers in the past but apparently beat them and their Republican opponents in the general, so...

Captain Zero

(8,739 posts)
14. Cuellar still under indictment for BRIBERY
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 06:25 PM
Jun 2025

Henry Cuellar's Texas indictment for bribery is still active. He and his wife were indicted in May 2024 on charges of bribery, money laundering, and acting as an unregistered foreign agent, according to the Department of Justice. The trial is scheduled to take place in federal court in Houston. While the initial trial date was in July 2024, it was delayed until after the election in November 2024. The trial is now set to begin in the spring of 2025.
(This is from Wikipedia, but we are past springtime, so who knows?)

Ritabert

(1,972 posts)
10. Here are the usual suspects
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 06:06 PM
Jun 2025

Reps. Henry Cuellar of Texas, Laura Gillen of New York, Don Davis of North Carolina, Jared Golden of Maine and Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington.

Samael13

(124 posts)
13. I know its not popular
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 06:18 PM
Jun 2025

But if we want any chance of taking back the house and senate we have to accept some dems aren't gonna be flying a ultra liberal flag some are gonna be more moderate or conservative just because of the areas they represent. Having lived in texas before there are democrats that dont support the idea of sanctuary cities and we have to accept that. Personally id rather win with imperfect candidates than lose with perfect ones

TomSlick

(12,879 posts)
17. It can sometimes be a hard call in a primary
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:05 PM
Jun 2025

whether to vote for the Democrat with whom I agree or the one that has the best shot at winning the general election.

With the republic on the line, I'll vote in the primary for the Democrat who has the best shot in the general election.

speak easy

(12,595 posts)
18. Henry Cuellar is the Democrat who voted for the anti-abortion
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:05 PM
Jun 2025

'Born Alive' bill. The only Democrat He is also the only Democratic Rep. I know of who did fundraising for a sitting Republican in a competitive district.

If concurring with Texas' anti-abortion laws and supporting Republican candidates is just imperfect, I don't want to know what impermissible is. We paid big time for giving free passes to Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman.

lonely bird

(2,764 posts)
22. Enough with the "ultra liberal" crap
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:25 PM
Jun 2025

There is literally nobody who is ultra liberal in congress.

soldierant

(9,285 posts)
21. Cuellar doesn't surprise me.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:19 PM
Jun 2025

Gluesenkamp Perez does a little. The others I don't know about. At least none of them is mine.

onenote

(45,990 posts)
33. Trump won her district in 2024. So its no surprise.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 09:57 PM
Jun 2025

I know a lot of folks will disagree, but my test for who to vote for in a primary is who has the best chance of defeating their repub opponent. And four of the five identified in the OP won in districts that Trump won and all are ranked as toss-ups for 2026.

soldierant

(9,285 posts)
46. Oftentimes that is the best way to vote in the primary. I do believe there are exceptions - but, I agree, not many.
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 05:37 PM
Jun 2025

Ping Tung

(4,137 posts)
23. My rep is on that list and she's going to have to change course to get my vote in 26.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:35 PM
Jun 2025

Last week I sent her a note telling her that her votes decides my vote the seat.

I didn't get a response. And, now, voting against sanctuary cities makes my vote very questionable.

onenote

(45,990 posts)
34. And replace them with Republicans? No thanks.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 09:59 PM
Jun 2025

Four of the five are from districts carried by Trump in 2024. They are ranked as toss-up districts for 2026. A progressive candidate will not win in these districts. Period.

onenote

(45,990 posts)
43. What you think is a better candidate will lose in these districts
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 01:35 PM
Jun 2025

They are essentially repub districts that voted for Trump.

J_William_Ryan

(3,338 posts)
29. Pragmatists?
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:17 PM
Jun 2025

Perhaps they believe such a measure would not pass in the Senate.

Or would be struck down by the courts as un-Constitutional – which it is.

There's also no such thing as a 'sanctuary city.'

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