US forces also helped shoot them down, as did the UK and other ME nations.

I, myself, have no problem with this.

Remember who will back them up, China. Do you really think this will keep the rest of the Middle East will not help Iran?

I doubt China will get involved except calling for all sides to show restraint, they're more interested in Taiwan and controlling the S. China Sea.

They are all quietly thanking Israel behind the scenes.

the ME is NOT jumping in to help Iran, I would bet a month's worth of my pension that behind the scenes, there is relief that Israel has neutered Iran's nuclear program and a lot of military targets.

Have the deep underground enrichment facilities been breached?

they hit the underground enrichment facilities.

That's the question. If they have them and if they have used them I assume for now the answer is no else we would have seen it reported somewhere.

From the NY Times:

equates to neutered but OK.

They hit other installations around the country, they took out top military officials along with top nuclear scientists, so, yeah, I'd say that Israel has neutralized Iran and given itself, and the world, time to resolve this.

Allowing Iran to posses a nuke would be a disaster for the ME, and the rest of the world for that matter.

In particular I noticed the Fordo enrichment facility:

Iran’s best-protected nuclear site, Fordo, near the city of Qum, is deep inside a mountain, estimated to be about half a mile below ground to protect it from bombing. Israel did not appear to have attacked it.

To do so would require repeated use of huge “bunker buster” bombs, and most experts think that cannot be done by Israel alone, without American help.

Fordo was operated secretly by Iran until it was exposed in 2009. It contains Iran’s most advanced centrifuges and is considered crucial for Iran to enrich uranium to 60 percent, close to bomb grade. It is said to contain close to 3,000 sophisticated centrifuges, more than half of them the most modern type, with the capacity to install at least 1,000 more.

It's an open proclamation--not even "open secret"--that they used in them in taking out Nasrallah in his den of whoevers in Beirut last year.

They're good for taking out those in burrows--Hamas' tunnels come to mind. But once needed for concrete-lined tunnels 50, 80, 100 ft underground, the possibilities of hitting concentrations of brave, stalwart rabbit ... warriors! ... hiding deep underground that hate Jew ... Zionists! ... is immense.

they've been allowed to run amok for far too long, although why NOW would be seen as a good time by Netenyahoo....who knows. But the fact is that no one in the west has checked them yet and it needed to be done at some point.

Hezbollah is decapitated from the pager strike. Hamas is bogged down in Gaza, Assad is finished in Syria. Even the Houthis have been taken down a notch from US bombardments.

Pair that info with a willing US partner withTraitor (or at least not obstructionist like Biden)…

I presume those facts and (perhaps) intelligence that Iran is close(r) to nuclear enrichment tipped them to action.

I’ll go further and stipulate that other ME countries were onboard with this- everyone understands Iran’s leadership is demented

I don’t mean obstructionist in a pejorative way

POTUS Biden was for a two-state solution and Gaza humanitarian ceasefire in my perception.

Chump cannot declare war on his own!
Make no mistake.
We are at war with the Federal government.

I have also had quite enough threats from all levels of law enforcement and government!
Fuck your threats as you are missing the point!
J-6 Now it's different?

Sent from occupied Los Angeles.

for those forces to remain in combat, so, in this case, yes, he can.

Who's the US military attacked?

Nobody in the ME. It apparently shot down missiles/etc. that would mostly have hit civilians. No Iranians or Iranian territory or property was affected, unless you want to claim that defensively shooting down a missile is an act of war.

In that case, blocking a punch = punching a person.

Just no.

Then Iran was retaliating against Israeli targeting of Hamas leaders including one in Iran, the targeting of Hezbollah, and Iran's defenses. Then we even had a coalition of Sunni states helping us.

Where things would be a MAJOR step up is if we are helping Israel in their attacks on Iran.

which I would oppose, defensive-OK, offensive-not OK.

Don't let them spill the blood of Americans!!!!

As far as recent events, the Saudis want Iran decapitated, and have made the deal with the US and Israel and likely Jordan as well. Now, it’s about the trillions of dollars involved in the Saudi partnerships.

I don't.

So all the reports of Israeli/Saudi deals with the US moderating along with other countries was bull. Ok. Whatever you’d like to think.

One thing: Israel is telling everyone that the days of the Yom Kippur War and October 7th are over. No more allowance of victimhood. The price for damaging Israel is a thousand times the initial strike.

Especially under Trump.

The US is a cheap, corrupt, amoral date.

They'd sell us out in a heartbeat for a more favorable option. But that's not likely in the near future

that's way out of my pay grade.

Russia could strike the US while Iran can't.

...you know, like Russia certainly has.

against weaker foes? That does seem to be what we've done since 1945. Then why does the military need $1 trillion a year?

While we aspire to principles, we try not to go headlong into shooting wars over them.

Your word "cowards" certainly fits the current administration.

with one Trillion dollars.

And that's regardless of which party is in control.

IMO, we should have closed the skies over Ukraine at the start of that war. Putin would have thrown a tantrum, but I don't think there's any way that he would have actually followed through on his nuclear threats.

Because it was Biden that decided some of that policy. Trump's merely stopping what I've always thought as a stunted, warped policy. Then again, what do I know? But after striding timidly over redline after redline, always too late to stop horrible slaughter, perhaps that showed wisdom. Or pips that sqeaked loudly, but pippishly.

Then, regarding this particular bit of military policy, there's that little agreement that says we can't send warships into the Black Sea without Turkey's permission--and Turkey's "neutrality" has stopped pretty much all military vessels' transit through the Dardanelles.

How, exactly, *could* we stop Russia's missile/drone attacks without either violating that agreement or, maybe, you know, simply sending munitions to Ukraine.

In the case of Israel, some is exactly what we did in Ukraine--send anti-missile defense armaments and munitions. But a lot has been, in response to imminent threats, to have ships stationed off shore and resources in the air. Can't do that 24/7/365.

shoot down Iranian missiles launched at Israel

Do they care? Do they even know? Are they just more cannon fodder for the politicians who start the wars.?

It doesn't matter which side wins when you're dead. Yossarian from Catch-22

It appears that we are actively and directly involved in a major conflict between Israel and Iran which is rapidly escalating and the only thing we have heard from the admin is an obviously false denial from the Sec of State and a Truth Social post from the president about peace talks.

— Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) 2025-06-13T19:41:27.778Z

Shouldn’t SOMEONE from the Trump admin have addressed the nation about this or are they too busy working on his birthday parade? Are we allowed to know anything about this new war we are fighting?

— Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) 2025-06-13T19:51:29.363Z

so, what's changed?

that we are not involved!

I know he's a serial liar, but did he lie when he said we weren't involved in the actual destruction of Iran's facility?
I've no doubt that we did help in subtle ways, but not the actual combat.

when Bibi laid out all the c3 and weapons assistance we provided.

It's what allies do, to varying degrees, and have done as long as there have been tribes. I'd hope others will back us whenever our next challenge comes along. I'm not optomistic of that with the current administration, but mutual backup is the plan I'm sure. Makes sense to follow through and help with their defense.

that we undermined to install our puppet. Think about all the CIA/corporate regimes installed in South/Central America because it serves our "interests".

Are Canada and Denmark (i.e. Greenland) allies? Somehow doesn't feel like it now-a-days.

Yes to both. And I agree.

will this piece of shit kill before he is dragged out of the White House to face a firing squad for his treasonous actions?

(Yeah....right.....don't be so harsh and unrealistic blah blah blah. Screw that. Rid the planet of this waste of air before the death toll exceeds his Covid f**k ups.)

After all, despite calling himself lord and savior he lies just like an antichrist. We were always told the antichrist would come out of the ME. We'll with as much intermingling of business and pleasure trump has with them, I say the beast did come out of the ME. He's certainly showed more help and loyalty towards them than his own country or countrymen.

World Cup!

which means shooting down Iranian drones and missiles, Jordan shooting down the ones from Iran, the US shooting down any from the Houthis or Hezbollah.

Iran screeches like there are US boots on the ground every time this happens.

Ww3 been on for awhile.

That Bibi would attack Iran, and the USA would have missile
defense in place.

of the Obama Nuclear Deal he basically created the opportunity for Israel or the US to use the excuse that we were keeping them from obtaining a nuclear weapon.

repeat - we pulled out of the Nuclear Deal which allowed this.

It is similar in many ways to our unprovoked attack on Iraq based on supposedly "intelligence" that said they had WMDs. How long did that war last?

I do not support Iran, but I also do not support offensive wars for speculative reasons.

Thanks

Why do we then have to back them up with our troops and our money and our weapons? Israel would not be so brazenly aggressive if the US were not blindly supportive.

And I said this under Biden too.

But if we can defend Israel we can defend Ukraine!

His political career depends on advancing war.