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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/13/israel-says-attack-on-iran-just-the-beginningIranian missiles have rained down on Tel Aviv in retaliation to Friday morning’s surprise aerial assault by Israel, as Tehran vowed to open the “gates of hell”.
Benjamin Netanyahu warned “more is on the way” and said Israel’s attempt to destroy Iran’s nuclear programme was just beginning.
Late on Friday, Iran and Israel reported a new wave of Iranian missile attacks, with explosions heard over Jerusalem. In northern Tehran, residents reported fresh explosions as Iran’s state news agency, IRNA, said Israel had launched further strikes.
An Israeli military spokesperson said earlier that Iran had fired up to 100 missiles in waves earlier in the evening, and that most had been intercepted or missed their intended target, but several appeared to penetrate Israel’s multi-tiered defences.
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claudette
(5,455 posts)they expect? Israel started this war.
IrishBubbaLiberal
(2,561 posts)That’s what all the neocons have been salivating for years to happen.
War.
WarGamer
(18,255 posts)claudette
(5,455 posts)it comes to this when there was an agreement with Iran under Obama
Igel
(37,369 posts)I have students with "contracts" that routinely think of them as a means to a short-term end.
Then, having FAed, they FO. "You lied to me." "Didn't think you were serious. But I didn't lie! Don't diss me!" "You said X, did Y, how's that not a lie?" < silence. >
Iran was found in ways that the UN didn't condemn to break sanctions/compliance. Even Obama said as much. Then again, it's a low bar to condemn Israel and a high bar to condemn Israel.
Lancero
(3,260 posts)It'll be more generational than anything, but I do think they'd have more support if they toned back "Nukes!" and focused more on the missile barrages Iran let off in 2024.
thought crime
(1,214 posts)
EX500rider
(12,180 posts)What was October 2024, when Iran launched about 200 ballistic missiles at targets in Israel?
Also in April when Iran fired around 170 drones, over 30 cruise missiles, and more than 120 ballistic missiles at Israel?
Weren't those also acts of war?
They did. I thought Israel is still bombing Gaza into non-existence because of 10/7/24. Now they preemptively bombed Iran to kill leaders and scientists. You can’t whitewash who started this war.
EX500rider
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JI7
(93,218 posts)but they didn't start it. And the regular people in Iran are on Israel's side.
DFW
(59,737 posts)While he has not specifically mentioned sympathy for Israel back home (i.e. Iran), he did say that the regime was pretty much universally despised by the people these days.
He also said that sanctions were a joke, and that apart from Israel, Iran is trading freely, under false-flag invoicing and shipping, with most other countries in the world, including our own. In Iran, he says, that’s not even an open secret. It’s just open. My Iranian friends here are in Berlin, at the other end of Germany, so we don’t see each other every day.
claudette
(5,455 posts)Israel. They started this war. How can you deny it?
EX500rider
(12,180 posts)What was October 2024, when Iran launched about 200 ballistic missiles at targets in Israel?
Also in April when Iran fired around 170 drones, over 30 cruise missiles, and more than 120 ballistic missiles at Israel?
Weren't those also acts of war?
You can bet if another country launched 200 ballistic missiles at the US we would think that was a declaration of war.
why keep trying to justify this? Israel bombed Iran and it's absurd to think Iran wouldn't fire back. Why didn't Israel strike back when Iran fired the missiles in April? And - October 2024 was blamed on Hamas and Israel is bombing Gaza into non-existence. And trying to call all this "self-defense." I don't see it that way.
All sides are wrong in a conflict such as this. Iran was in negotiation talks so why did Bibi decide to start this war?
thought crime
(1,214 posts)Israel’s latest attack is concerned with Iran’s nuclear development, at a time when Iran’s negotiations with the Trump administration was ongoing. It’s no use gaslighting; Israel is clearly the aggressor here. The only question involves the role of the US/Trump administration. Was the US a "silent partner"? Did it deceive Iran's negotiators?
