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All the hype about a fabulous $50M parade.
To be the envy of the world and rival France, Russia, North Korea parades?
When on parade day, the tanks looked weak and ridiculous?
I have seen some of the footage of the soldiers marching.
Most ridiculous thing I have ever seen in terms of military marching.
Soldiers dressed in their fatigues, walking, strolling, not even in step with each other.
I have seen first graders walking in a cross walk do better than that.
ETA: Funny how the Army said the jets could not fly in the rain.
I am an Air Force kid and it is 100% certain that military jets can fly in the rain and bad weather. If there is a low ceiling due to cloud cover, they can fly low like the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds do at the Air Shows every year. I have seen this personally.
The US military has been handling jackwad politicians for a very long time.
They can stall and wait out the politician who will be gone.
But the military will still be there.
Trump was humiliated and the American people were vindicated.
Well done US Army.
Autumn
(48,913 posts)it's always half assed.
flashman13
(2,294 posts)It was a big FU to Trump and he is too stupid to have realized what was happening.
Walleye
(44,434 posts)Trump promised a celebration, I didnt see any celebration yesterday. I know what celebration looks like Ive been on Times Square New Years Eve. The commander-in-chief hiding behind bulletproof glass did not add to the celebratory mood. I think the soldiers are starting to get the word of how Trump treats veterans. Like shit.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)I am an Air Force kid and it is 100% certain that military jets can fly in the rain.
And if there is cloud cover with a low ceiling, they can fly low.
Just like the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds do at Air Shows all the time.
Which I have personally seen.
forgotmylogin
(7,946 posts)The crowd wouldn't have seen anything above the cloud cover, and flying low was dangerous like flying in a fog-bank.
My favorite part was the crowd was so sparse and quiet you hear the squeaky wheels on the tanks and other vehicles.
I also loved the DJ smooth announcer whose copy came off as snark over the lame procession, "Imagine, no GPS or power steering! (squeak squeak squeakity-squeak like a bad shopping cart)"
(I do understand that noise isn't usually an issue with military vehicles, it was just funny how it all presented together.)
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Yes the whole parade was unreal, so bad.
LogDog75
(1,240 posts)but that depends upon the situation. I watched AF planes fly during my AF career and during peacetime they didn't fly much when it rained or very low cloud cover. The reason was not to put the pilot or plane in danger. Had there been broken cloud cover in Washington DC no doubt they would have flown.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Walleye
(44,434 posts)ms liberty
(11,147 posts)I believe it was still home to the Strategic Air Command thru that time period, so yes. They fly jets in the rain and clouds, like others I personally have seen it myself. Back in the day the hot shot pilots liked to buzz the beaches every chance they got, and some cloud cover on a hot summer day was a popular flight pattern because it gave them excuses if they got in trouble!
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Right they would blame low ceiling and cloud cover for it.
Squadron commanders not impressed.
Of course even the older pilots might waggle their wings for the kids and wife
as they flew over the housing area.
travelingthrulife
(5,030 posts)Crowman2009
(3,487 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 15, 2025, 08:30 PM - Edit history (1)
That's what fuckin' marching bands are for! You don't see figure skaters performing to free form jazz on ice.
bluedigger
(17,426 posts)When our drill sergeant started singing it towards the end of basic, we were at first shocked as we recognized it, but it worked great, and we marched with enthusiasm that morning.
Susan Calvin
(2,425 posts)Are you telling me that at some point they marched to Fortunate Son?? Do you happen to have a link?!
UpInArms
(54,710 posts)I hope someone else has that link
Susan Calvin
(2,425 posts)barbtries
(31,271 posts)couldn't find it on youtube.
This is great too because the intent of the song is discussed by the man who wrote it.
Shared on BlueSky as part of my #ProtestSongOfTheDay series
#ProtestSongOfTheDay
— Democratic Barbara (@barbtries.bsky.social) 2025-06-16T14:04:25.548Z
In honor of (or so i hear) krasnov playing this during his nazi parade.
And when you ask 'em, "How much should we give?"
Hoo, they only answer, "More, more, more, more"
youtu.be/3RmQTYLD398?...
UpInArms
(54,710 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,946 posts)I don't blame them - they had to walk like 2.5 miles to pass in front of like 500 people spread thin.
And yeah, marching isn't done to contemporary music with varying beats. Marching to music is dance, not military maneuvers.
UpInArms
(54,710 posts)just love the soundtrack they walked to
SilasSouleII
(486 posts)n/t
forgotmylogin
(7,946 posts)SilasSouleII
(486 posts)But he was known as the "March King". And none of his "hits" would be considered "dance" music.
Old Crank
(6,854 posts)One reason for popularity for marching bands.
The reason for Shakespeare festivals. No royalties havre to be paid.
Cha
(318,352 posts)On while Millions of us Protested on No Kings Day.
Mahalo!
Karch
(23 posts)cilla4progress
(26,520 posts)Poor troops!
Farmer-Rick
(12,594 posts)Some folks are born made to wave the flag
Hoo, they're red, white and blue
And when the band plays "Hail to the chief"
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no senator's son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no furtunate one, no
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, Lord?
But when the taxman come to the door
Lord, the house lookin' like a rummage sale, yeah
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no millionaire's son, no, no
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one, no
Yeah-yeah, some folks inherit star-spangled eyes
Hoo, they send you down to war, Lord
And when you ask 'em, "How much should we give?"
Hoo, they only answer, "More, more, more, more"
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no military son, son, Lord
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one, one
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one, no, no, no
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate son, no, no, no
It ain't me, it ain't me...
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)A direct slap upside the head to the orange jackwad.
mucholderthandirt
(1,780 posts)No one is allowed to humiliate Trump. There's always payback.
Though from what I understand about how low in the barrel the military is scraping up recruits, this is probably the best and brightest we had to offer.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)No, I guarantee you if the Army wanted to put on a great parade,
dress uniforms, smartly stepping parade troops, flyover, etc they could do it for sure.
Crowman2009
(3,487 posts)He's probably hate eating some big macs as we speak.
C Moon
(13,590 posts)luvallpeeps
(1,280 posts)Melania looked like she was holding back a laugh.
colorado_ufo
(6,228 posts)lamp_shade
(15,448 posts)How could anyone NOT notice the "Soldiers dressed in their fatigues, walking, strolling, not even in step with each other." My thought was that they were all pissed off and did that on purpose.
RandomNumbers
(19,143 posts)Not doing that, means they expected no serious consequences.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Or they put first day recruits in the parade who had not been taught how to march.
Alice Kramden
(2,929 posts)And we were just Brownies - the littlest of the Girl Scouts in our town's Memorial Day parade, many years ago
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)at the parade.
Lifeafter70
(910 posts)I went to my son's graduation from boot camp (marines) and my grandson's boot camp graduation (army). It looked nothing like this parade. Not to mention the different units that march in the Rose Parade every year.
These units looked like they didn't care and wished they could be somewhere else.
jmowreader
(53,067 posts)In the video I posted in another place, they brought a platoon of basic trainees to march in the parade.
The weird thing is, the basic trainees didn't look any worse than the professional soldiers in the formations before and after them.
mercuryblues
(16,337 posts)and/or weekend to hail to the dictraitor and his traitor tots.
They wear what their commanding officer orders them to wear. All personnel have ACU's. Every parade I have been to, they usually have someone counting off, so they stay in step. This was a deliberate act or ignorance...think basic training level participants.
OMGWTF
(5,075 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)And it shows in this parade.
efhmc
(16,468 posts)Raven123
(7,741 posts)Some showed troops definitely not marching as precisely as I have seen in previous parades involving the military. I dont know that they played the King, but I cant imagine there being enthusiasm for such a spectacle. Maybe they were passing by empty viewing stands and chilled.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)They don't get sloppy when doing a critical job in front of the Commander in Chief and
high level officials. They don't just chill in the middle of an important parade.
Raven123
(7,741 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)The whole thing was ridiculous.
J_William_Ryan
(3,453 posts)Theres an image of a World War II Era Sherman tank was there anything more recent?
I didnt watch, nor will I but the OPs description indicates some lame, ridiculous charade.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)I am an Air Force kid and even the Air Force could have put on a better parade.
And the AF is not known for parade training.
MissouriDem47
(408 posts)After basic training only had to march once at a Change of Command Ceremony. Needless to say we weren't very good at it. Even with some practice, we tried but things like that take a lot of practice.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)But handling guns, marching, saluting, spit and polish are not their thing.
OldBaldy1701E
(10,923 posts)Gimpyknee
(1,025 posts)I was reprimanded by an Air Force officer some 5o years ago when I failed to salute him when he walked past me as I was heading to the mess hall at Bethesda Naval Hospital. He ordered me to halt and asked if the Navy taught proper military etiquette and respect for officers? I responded it did but I thought he was a bus driver. He put me on report. When my Chief asked me to explain my offense I told him my response. He said not to worry about it, they did look like bus drivers.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)The Navy uniforms are wonderful.
Usually AF officers are laid back. I rarely saw anyone salute growing up.
Except the MPs at the gate saluted officers coming on to the base.
Every now and then you would get an AF officer with a stick up his ass,
But not very often.
William Gustafson
(552 posts)I was in the Coast Guard in 1974 and our dress blues were actual blue bus driver suits... not like in the 60'a were they were more like the navy dress blues... I hated them...
Doc_Technical
(3,752 posts)When the sailors found out that our father was in the Air Force,
they kidded her about the Air force "bus driver" uniforms.
One day, the base personal had to wear their white uniforms
so my sister said they looked like the Good Humor ice cream
salesmen, and kept asking the for fudge cycles and drumsticks.
They didn't think that was funny.
Revenge (and ice cream) are dishes best served cold.
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SomewhereInTheMiddle
(644 posts)Army civilian for 8 years. Picked up a lot of Army "humor". What they say about the Air Force.
swong19104
(608 posts)an Abrams tank. The Sherman was there to represent tanks from WWII. The parade was to show the history of the Army from its inception 250 years ago. There were soldiers dressed in Revolutionary War uniforms, Civil War uniforms (the Union, not the confederacy), WWI, Two, Korean, Vietnam, and more recent military excursions.
kwijybo
(268 posts)I didn't watch it, just the high lights on the news. They had vehicles (8 wheeled) that come in 3 or 4 different flavors, from troop carriers to comms. Looked it up, it's a Stryker. They were used as recently as Iraq.
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Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)I grew up in the military.
Career USAF father who flew combat in three wars.
Mother a military nurse during the Korean War.
Two brothers in US Army.
Uncles in Army and Navy.
I remember as a kid, reading some bad news in the Stars and Stripes,
the military newspaper. About how politicians were going to screw over
the USAF in some way. I went to my mother and voiced my worry.
She just laughed and said not to worry.
She said US military has been fighting jackass politicians for 200 years.
They just wait out the politicians, yank them around, and stall for time.
Soon the politician will be out of office and all will go back to normal.
And she was right, that is what happened.
And based on what I saw of the parade, that is exactly what I saw once again.
Even Air Force high school ROTC could put on a better parade.
underpants
(195,963 posts)Thomas Rickss Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq went into this with W&Dick. The brass sees POTUSs as temps.
LogDog75
(1,240 posts)Route Step March is normally used when the terrain is uneven or difficult and it isn't something to be done in a parade. They may have been at At Ease March in which movement is permitted as long as silence, dress, cover, interval, and distance are maintained.
But even that doesn't make sense when troops march in a parade especially when they're passing in review. Route Step and At Ease March is used in the field to get troops from one point to another.
I've marched in a number of civilian parades (voluntarily) and base reviews in uniform with other members from our base and we didn't march anything like what the video shows. Days before a civilian parade or base review we'd practice how we march so when the time came to be seen we'd look sharp.
As for not marching to martial music, it's up to the person who is leading them to provide the cadence so everyone is in step.
As a retired AF Senior NCO, the thing I look at when I see troops marching are:
Do they maintain dress (alignment with those on their right and/or left)Cover (staying directly behind the person in front of them)
Interval (the distance from the back of the person in front of you to your chest.
Is anyone "bouncing" while they march which makes them stick out
Do they move as a single unit.
Those troops in the video displayed little of the above.
slightlv
(7,706 posts)I can guarantee it wasn't the parade trumpy was expecting!
Former Air Force here, and the only marching we did after basic was changing of the guard.. commander. We didn't march but the one time we did it was in dress blues, in time, and smartly.
Just seeng soldiers in fatigues at this type of parade blew my mind. Total diss on trump.
LogDog75
(1,240 posts)I was in the medial group and one thing about marching is the medics aren't too good at marching. I was at Myrtle Beach AFB in the late 70s and the base held a Pass in Review (parade). Each group would march past the reviewing stand where the wing, base, and group commanders and their wives would be. Our first sergeant has us practicing the last hour of the duty day for four days to get ready for the Pass in Review. All the group units lined up in front of the enlisted dorms and marched to the flight line where the review was being held. Once there, we waited until the order to Pass in Review was given and then each of the groups would march with about 30 feet between them. When our group's turn came we marched down the flightline with man out of step, airmen bouncing up-and-down while marching, and just looking bad. As we came upon the reviewing stands, there was a line on the flightline which indicated when we would be judged. Observers told us as we came to the line everything fell into place with everyone in-step, no one bouncing, and we move as one unit. As soon as we past the final review line one of the med techs lost her shoe and stopped to pick it up causing problems for those behind her. After that our marching fell apart but we weren't under review.
Funniest thing at the time was we weren't aware one group would be chosen as the "best" and we won. When we heard that the next work day everyone had a good laugh about it.
slightlv
(7,706 posts)Skittles
(170,924 posts)I noticed that listless marching and thought WTF - in USAF we literally were more snappy than that when we marched from our dorm room to tech training, right after Basic
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)DFW
(60,040 posts)Both countries were well on their way there by mud1990, so there wast much danger of that balloon going up during 1990-1993. Clintons biggest concern by then was the Balkan conflict, which lasted for most of his presidency.
Crowman2009
(3,487 posts)RockRaven
(19,083 posts)given by a bunch of lazy superficial incompetents, leading to the shambolic appearance.
The notion that this was an act of resistance sounds like hopium/copium. Why assume resistance when we already know The Dotard and Kegsbreath are sloppy buffoons? Occam's Razor -- this is probably the parade which was ordered.
pfitz59
(12,594 posts)Too tiring. They were 'straggling'. A real marching command. They surely formed up and marched while 'passing in review'. What I think the real tell was broadcasting "Fortunate Son" along the route.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)With huge numbers of soldiers.
Straggling for a $50M parade?
Sure.
USAF ROTC could have done better.
calimary
(89,689 posts)Boy, that certainly IS a tell, if ever there was one!
And so many shots of trump looking dejected and even defeated, with a really pathetic facial expression. Sheesh! Do you suppose he actually got the joke? That wouldnt just be a punchline. That would be a punch-in-the-gut line.
I guess maybe all the contrived prancing and posing and Look at ME! Im KING! stuff just isnt working for him anymore.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)I made similar comments in another posting........
It definitely appeared to be a subtle rebellion, a passive aggressive show by the Military and esp their soldiers........
Did you see the video of Heg whatever and Trump's faces while it was going on??????? Wow were they pissed off............
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)He is laughing hysterically while everyone else looks like they are at a funeral.
Then later he looks checked out.
I saw a picture of Rubio who looked very bored with a deliberate sour look on his face.
I wonder why they were so pissed off?
Prairie Gates
(7,819 posts)The Army planners themselves chose Fortunate Son.
red dog 1
(32,860 posts)The US Military is still great despite the fact that a totally unqualified alcoholic is now the Secretary of Defense.
yellow dahlia
(5,547 posts)Under-qualified and incompetent is the norm for this shit show.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)To do something this bad within certain parameters took some skill and experience.
yellow dahlia
(5,547 posts)yellow dahlia
(5,547 posts)And so, I was wrong - he is 25. Well then - he is seasoned professional.
Calling all incompetent twenty something incels, weirdos, misfits, and sociopaths - you too can get a job at the administration take over.
bucolic_frolic
(54,797 posts)Would they have been instructed to march that way?
Shouldn't all but loyalists be purged, like the Executive branch?
xmas74
(30,043 posts)They practice in the rain. They can fly.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)xmas74
(30,043 posts)They train in all weather to be ready to deploy at any time.
I'm shocked he didn't demand the Stealth fly overhead, just like at a NFL game.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Trump believed it.
xmas74
(30,043 posts)When they don't want to fly it's bad.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)But was the weather that bad yesterday in DC?
Not one airplane could do a one minute flyover?
BOSSHOG
(44,738 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Mysterian
(6,339 posts)This could not be a coincidence. Army marching at route step for the CINC could not be a coincidence. I'm hoping as an Army vet the brass was telling Commander Bonespurs "fuck you."
fierywoman
(8,554 posts)it was like the author of the narrative designed it to be as un-militaristic as possible. (Kudos to the author !)
LetMyPeopleVote
(178,344 posts)Link to tweet
Probably watched dozens more as a spectator.
And this is easily the worst and sloppiest marching I've ever witnessed at a formal military parade.
It feels like a big "fuck you" to Trump from the soldiers.
Historic NY
(39,928 posts)C_U_L8R
(49,262 posts)Trump will blame him for the parade flop and the Heinz bottles will be flying.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)He looked toasted for some of the parade. High on booze and cocaine.
Laughing like a maniac when every one else looked bored and depressed.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)I didn't see him or Ivanka.
Submariner
(13,332 posts)a yellow bellied draft dodging coward took their day off away from them and they showed him the big FU.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,399 posts)Historic NY
(39,928 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,399 posts)but it sounds funny!
marble falls
(71,594 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Grammy23
(6,113 posts)Seeing as how tRump made it clear this Really Big Show was actually to honor him, youd think theyd have been spit shined and crisp in their uniforms. Instead we get a strolling bunch looking quite casual and lackadaisical. Im betting that tRump was livid. That is when he had his eyes open enough to see. The rest of the rat pack looked bored and ready to head for a bar for a stiff drink. Joanie Ernst looked like she might cry. Oh, she knew. She knew. 😞
The crowd was so quiet that when the tanks passed by, you only heard wheels squeaking and birds chirping. No cheering. No clapping. The onlookers must have been underwhelmed, too.
Short and sweet: tRumps parade was a bust.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Our uniforms were sharp, spit and polished shoes, etc.
And we could walk in unison.
BattleRow
(2,236 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Nuns took care of things the old fashioned way.
DV1
(142 posts)it was like that every day even without a mass.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)BattleRow
(2,236 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)I thought they would be wearing dress PARADE uniforms.
The Army has all kinds of fancy dress uniforms and specialized flashy uniforms.
J3AC4
(66 posts)Where did you see video of solders walking out of step? I have searched and looked at a few videos and can not find any where they are out of step.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)They are all just walking normally, not marching.
They are in their fatigues, just strolling along out of step.
I will see if I can find the clip.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)When military men and women in uniform march, they march with tight timing and in lockstep as a sign of pride.
These soldiers couldnt be further from marching in lockstep.
Its clear that they dont want to be a part of Trumps Dictator Parade and are just phoning it in.
Klondike Kat
(936 posts)they've got helicopters, but no jets ("fast movers"
. Jets are the Air Force, Navy, and Marines.
Now I could be wrong and, if so, please correct me (as gently as you can).
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)From the internet:
Limited Fixed-Wing Role: The Army's fixed-wing aviation role is primarily focused on administrative and support missions, rather than combat. This is due to agreements like the Key West Agreement, which outlines the roles and responsibilities of each branch of the military regarding aviation assets.
C-12 Huron:This turboprop aircraft is a key part of the Army's fixed-wing fleet, used for various support missions.
VIP Transport: The Army also operates jet aircraft for transporting VIPs, including the UC-35, which is based on a Cessna business jet.
Electronic Warfare and Intelligence: Some fixed-wing aircraft, like the EO-5, RC-12, and B-300, are used for intelligence collection and electronic warfare.
Was that gentle enough?
pat_k
(13,074 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 15, 2025, 07:31 PM - Edit history (1)
It wasn't just rain. Radar prediction was about 50% chance of t-storms around 7 PM -- at least when I looked around 5. I'm pretty sure planes are designed to withstand lightening strikes, but they can be dangerous and there was no reason to take the risk for a demonstration.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)And I still think a couple of helicopters could have flown by with very low altitude for one minute.
Geesh.
sl8
(17,109 posts)I didn't watch the parade and haven't seen a comprehensive list of aircraft that participated
I've seen video of a Cayuse, Hueys & Cobras, representing the Vietnam era.
There were Apaches, Blackhawks and, I think, Chinooks, from the modern era.
As far as fixed wing, all I've seen videos of were the WWII era planes - a B-25, C-47, and some P-51s. I don't know what type dropped the Golden Knights.
I'm sure I'm missing some types.
The only ones that I've read were dropped were the Thunderbirds and the F-22s. There might have been others, though.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Reports said flyovers were cancelled.
sl8
(17,109 posts)As I mentioned, the only reports of cancelled flights I've seen were regarding the USAF Thunderbirds and F-22s.
Where did you see that other flyovers were cancelled?
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Well at least Trump got to see some airplanes.
I have not seen any clips of him looking upward at the sky filled with airplanes.
DFW
(60,040 posts)Since Trump once publicly commented on how General Washingtons troops attacked British airfields in colonial New Jersey (or whichever colony it was).
sl8
(17,109 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)sl8
(17,109 posts)I believe the Thunderbirds and F-22s, which ended up being cancelled, were added because Trump wanted them. As far as I know, the Army aircraft involved had been in the plans for a while. Have you seen something different?
Here's one story that mentions the addition of the Air Force planes, I had seen others, as well:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/make-great-tv-donald-trump-parade-wanted/story?id=122821886
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Military pilots still pissed off Hegseth put Navy pilots in grave danger.
sl8
(17,109 posts)The Thunderbirds also cancelled their performance at this year's Air Force Academy graduation ceremony, also due to inclement weather.
It was reported as being unusual. Maybe they've changed their policies? I really don't know.
https://gazette.com/military/in-rarity-thunderbirds-flyover-at-air-force-academy-graduation-canceled/article_bbab540f-cd18-4abd-9e67-22036d863c0f.html
In rarity, Thunderbirds' flyover at Air Force Academy graduation canceled
By O'Dell Isaac odell.isaac@gazette.com May 29, 2025 Updated May 29, 2025
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)So yes it is odd.
pat_k
(13,074 posts)maxrandb
(17,376 posts)We used to say; "all weather aircraft - fair weather pilot"
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Top brass does not like it when you crash expensive planes.
The Army had something they could have thrown into the air for a couple of minutes
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,399 posts)any of the birds who visit my birdfeeder could outsmart the fugly felon.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Otterdaemmerung
(136 posts)viva la
(4,574 posts)screeching off key. LOL.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)They screwed up everything.
On purpose.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,018 posts)The look on dump's face said it all.

Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)llmart
(17,526 posts)I have been able to avoid seeing any pictures of Mrs. Squint Eyes since the takeover of our White House in January. I see that she's just as deliriously happy as she was last time he stole an election. Her mouth looks like she's sucking on a lemon. Also, why is the Orange Imbecile asleep and why can't he ever button his one and only suit coat?
Inquiring minds want to know (NOT!).
spanone
(141,344 posts)Skittles
(170,924 posts)that sounds like a big FU to that arrogant, entitled draft dodging piece of SHIT
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)They let President Bone Spurs with 5 draft deferments know exactly how they felt.
ms liberty
(11,147 posts)I don't know who from the administration was involved in the planning, but wow, I'd bet they're persona non grata in the Oval right now!
They did not have enough time to put together an event of this magnitude, they seemed to have no experience in planning a parade or event like this and it was done on the cheap. They were probably given a mandate by their Dear Leader of exactly what had to be in there. The omission of military bands interspersed amongst the creaking, ancient tools of war really needed some live marching bands to lighten up the silence. That was a fatal error.
And then there's the eternal issue, which is the Orange Monster being blindsided by the failure of his grand fantasy. He was flabbergasted by how bad it was, and how few of his devoted fans came out for him. His handlers can't (or won't) tell him the truth because to do so would mean the end of their free and undeserved ride to the top. I expect rage tweeting to commence presently, if it hasn't at this time. Oh and,
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)The Army obviously didn't want to put on a good parade.
And yes Trump's people probably screwed it up too.
Yes even dim Trump had to realize what an embarrassment it was.
Yes we shall see how soon he starts rage tweeting.
Demovictory9
(37,113 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Sorry for the language.
Tribetime
(7,133 posts)100% it was going to rain but there was no rain it was beautiful. It did rain and they forecast for 12 hour peroids in probability of precipitation and I didn't see 100% anywhere. Is there anything he won't lie about.
MaeScott
(966 posts)luvallpeeps
(1,280 posts)I never liked the circus. Seeing a majestic animal dressed in a tu-tu, riding a bike disturbed me. Lions jumping through hoops. I dont care for the zoo either for that matter, but I just think maybe they may not have appreciated being put on display on the faux kings orders. Just a thought.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)summer_in_TX
(4,114 posts)I think it may have been something other than malicious non-compliance. They were tired, hungry, had their time wasted all day long waiting around and by the time they marched, they just didn't care any more.
At least, that's what Charlotte Clymer believes and the reasoning seems solid.
https://substack.com/@charlotteclymer/note/p-166008462
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I dont believe this was intentional protest for or against anything, but I do believe it was intentional apathy and carelessness, borne out of understandable frustration with being treated like props for the benefit of an egomaniacal toddler.
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They wore heavy uniforms in the summer humidity (especially the heavy wool uniforms of the colonial era troops, good god). They were on their feet for several hours prior to the beginning of the march. Their comfort was clearly and entirely an afterthought.
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So, no, I do not believe this was some coordinated protest against Trump or malicious incompetence (as has been bandied about online), but I do think the troops who were assigned to march in this damn parade were rightly pissed and too tired to care how they looked.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)That is why they train, train, train.
It is all automatic in a crisis.
But I agree this could have been a small part of what we saw.
But they could not have been this bad without orders from the top.
summer_in_TX
(4,114 posts)🙏
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)luvallpeeps
(1,280 posts)Hugin
(37,760 posts)The high maintenance Mussolini touched it, sh*t ensued.
As for the Army. Box, checked. :checkmark:
Unlike all of the socialism countries, here in the US, soldiers have to purchase those fancy parade pants from the highest bidder thanks to decades of Republican penny pinching. Way beyond the means of the average enlisted troopers for a one-off vanity photo op for his would-be highness.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)A thing of beauty and impossible not to recognize what they did.
bluedigger
(17,426 posts)And not one word of the Navy's inability to bring a battleship up the Potomac. I'm not even going to address the Space Force not bringing down a Death Star for review...
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)bluedigger
(17,426 posts)I seriously heard one guy talk about it being so quiet you could hear the tank tires on the pavement. Tank tires...
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JohnnyRingo
(20,771 posts)I also noticed that they sent their US Army Band Latin Ensemble.
There's stick in the eye.
sl8
(17,109 posts)Ordinarily, I'd delete my post at this point. This time, I'll leave it up, at least for now, for the benefit of other folks that think there were no bands in the parade.
ECL213
(439 posts)Did they use the short barrels?
Did they stick googly eyes on the front?
Were they painted Cheeto orange?
Did they just sport Trump flags?
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Nothing like the Russian and Chinese parades.
DFW
(60,040 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(25,210 posts)They could have looked sharp if they'd wanted to.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Glad to have an USArmy kid weigh in on the topic.
I am an USAF kid and I don't ever remember any parades on base.
In the summer, the base commander let us take a tour on the flight line and look at the inside
of all the military aircraft, and we got ice cream. That was it.
Crowman2009
(3,487 posts)Otherwise I would be screaming "COVER, ALIGN, GET IN STEP, KEEP YOUR HEAD STRAIGHT" among other salty things all day.
My senior drill instructor said something one day when we kept fucking up on the parade deck during practice at MCRD San Diego that still resonates with me, he said: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
And then it was off to the sea shell covered pit for push ups.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Ouch on the seashell push up pit.
I am an USAF kid, I don't think anyone got punished for bad marching.
johnnyfins
(3,706 posts)But the big thing missing was an actual PARADE GROUND.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Yes a parade ground and larger space would have helped a lot.
Someone pointed out that is why Russia, China, NK have much better looking parades.
They have huge squares which shows off the troops and tanks much better.
johnnyfins
(3,706 posts)Our military is supposed to be for defense only. Definitely not for a propaganda photo op.
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)Owens
(593 posts)Thought it was odd, I'm glad someone else noticed it!
Paladin
(32,354 posts)It was exactly the sort of performance that trump deserved.
LetMyPeopleVote
(178,344 posts)
Irish_Dem
(80,775 posts)It was like a homecoming parade.
Not a fierce show of US military might.