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senseandsensibility

(24,251 posts)
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 02:52 PM Jun 2025

Actual CNN headline

Last edited Tue Jun 17, 2025, 04:40 PM - Edit history (2)

"As Trump shatters ethics norms with a Qatari jet and a $499 smartphone, experts lament Biden's 'failure' to pass reforms."

Why don't they just go for it and do a screaming all caps headline like this: NOTHING IS TRUMP'S FAULT! EVERYTHING IS BIDEN'S FAULT!

Careful, don't want to give them any ideas.

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Actual CNN headline (Original Post) senseandsensibility Jun 2025 OP
Fucking what???? Initech Jun 2025 #1
FUCK YOU, cnn, you traitorous, complicit hacks. niyad Jun 2025 #2
But Biden tripped the stairs! RVN VET71 Jun 2025 #44
I knew America was going down the proverbial hole/skids, July 2022.. when Joe Biden ... chouchou Jun 2025 #57
Who watches the Cable Nut Network? nt ImNotGod Jun 2025 #3
Fortunately, the farther right they go the lower senseandsensibility Jun 2025 #4
They don't care which proves it's not "corporate" profit that's driving them it's political profit. live love laugh Jun 2025 #49
Yes, I've been trying to make that point for a while senseandsensibility Jun 2025 #50
Jesus Christ. spanone Jun 2025 #5
TRUMP WHORES Skittles Jun 2025 #13
Slaves to the kleptocracy. dchill Jun 2025 #20
Gotta save some room for Obama... MiHale Jun 2025 #6
Hindsight newdeal2 Jun 2025 #7
Headlline definitely sucks. But first few paragraphs or article lay it straight on trump's corruption. Silent Type Jun 2025 #8
Most people only read headlines Keepthesoulalive Jun 2025 #25
Very true SocialDemocrat61 Jun 2025 #30
How were "Post-Watergate-style reforms" supposed to be passed, Dylan Hedtler-Gaudette? maxsolomon Jun 2025 #40
Oh, give me a freaking break. slightlv Jun 2025 #52
THEY ACTUALLY TRIED to pass campaign finance and voting reforms-- and Repubs LymphocyteLover Jun 2025 #55
It's like they have less self-awareness than AI /nt UniqueUserName Jun 2025 #9
they are paid more than ai quakerboy Jun 2025 #42
Wait... NCDem47 Jun 2025 #10
What reforms would Biden have been able to pass with that Republicans who were shooting everything down? Baitball Blogger Jun 2025 #11
Besides That... ProfessorGAC Jun 2025 #15
Untethered,unhinged,unconcerned,unimpeachable BattleRow Jun 2025 #26
You know, that's a very good point senseandsensibility Jun 2025 #48
always, ALWAYS the fault of Dems Skittles Jun 2025 #12
The NY Times Pitchbot knows when he's in the presence of greatness. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2025 #14
"I shit you not, people" senseandsensibility Jun 2025 #35
At least DU can't rage at the NYT for this one. maxsolomon Jun 2025 #46
We had over a quarter of a millennium of presidents and congresses and supreme courts unblock Jun 2025 #16
Corporate News Network SocialDemocrat61 Jun 2025 #17
Fascinating DENVERPOPS Jun 2025 #27
Just as Trump is trying DENVERPOPS Jun 2025 #28
This is why I don't watch any news, even local channels. I can't take the bullshit. mucholderthandirt Jun 2025 #18
I saw that and just about posted it - darn disgusting CNN. Are these Russian experts you refer to? AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2025 #19
Congress passes laws, not the President. 33taw Jun 2025 #21
and not a single lament azureblue Jun 2025 #22
"You made me do it" Nasruddin Jun 2025 #23
Exactly. senseandsensibility Jun 2025 #39
Next "No Kings" type protest should be outside CNN headquarters. IcyPeas Jun 2025 #24
My local giveaway fishwrapper's editor wrote this nonsense a few days ago: Grokenstein Jun 2025 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author krkaufman Jun 2025 #31
Yes senseandsensibility Jun 2025 #32
Most of the media is kissing his ass. C Moon Jun 2025 #33
I tried, but can't read the article, Mtnmama Jun 2025 #34
Standard corporate media line, do not take a position that may bother Trump. Passages Jun 2025 #36
Again...haven't watched or been to their POS website since that FAKE ASS Trump Bengus81 Jun 2025 #37
Post-Watergate reforms?? The Watergate break-in happened June 17, 1972- 53 years ago. NBachers Jun 2025 #38
Ask the sole complainant in the article, Dylan Hedtler-Gaudette maxsolomon Jun 2025 #45
The emoluments clause is in the constitution. mzmolly Jun 2025 #41
Unfortunately, the emoluments clause was ignored even senseandsensibility Jun 2025 #43
Two things Mz Pip Jun 2025 #47
CNN has been dead to me for over a decade now. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2025 #51
Stop losing your shorts. IT'S ONE MAN'S OPINION!!! ificandream Jun 2025 #53
no, that is NOT it Skittles Jun 2025 #56
No, it's not. Again, it's one man's opinion. ificandream Jun 2025 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Jun 2025 #66
Republicans aren't experts at anything but complaining. Warpy Jun 2025 #54
CNN is a huge part of the problem in this country nini Jun 2025 #58
What a beautiful thing it would be Blue Owl Jun 2025 #59
No, it wouldn't be beautiful. ificandream Jun 2025 #67
i am even off cnn.com pansypoo53219 Jun 2025 #60
Seriously. Stay Away From CNN. The Only Thing Worse Than A Trump Cult Propaganda Network (Fox) Is A Network... TrollBuster9090 Jun 2025 #61
there is a market for all the rich reporters and executives to start an objective samsingh Jun 2025 #62
100% fact vapor2 Jun 2025 #63
No one should be watching CNN at this point oysterpoint Jun 2025 #65

Initech

(107,436 posts)
1. Fucking what????
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 02:55 PM
Jun 2025

Shit like this is why I haven't watched network news in years. It is all directly the fucking asshole's fault!

RVN VET71

(3,126 posts)
44. But Biden tripped the stairs!
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 05:48 PM
Jun 2025

And Hunter's laptop!

Is CNN the network that cut from a speech Hillary was delivering -- back during the 2016 campaign -- to show an empty stage where Trump was expected but didn't show up for about 30 minutes after he was scheduled to arrive?

(Just checked. Yes, turns out CNN and MSNBC both pulled that stunt. Idiots in charge of those networks should have been fired for cronyism. But that was then. Both of these networks are much more serious now about going after the wannabe dictator, ain't that true, Jim Acosta, Terry Moran, Mehdi Hassan, Joy Reid, and the rest of the good journalists who focused on Trump's efforts to destroy the Constitution?)

chouchou

(2,805 posts)
57. I knew America was going down the proverbial hole/skids, July 2022.. when Joe Biden ...
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 11:50 PM
Jun 2025

...caught his chain and fell off of his bike.

senseandsensibility

(24,251 posts)
4. Fortunately, the farther right they go the lower
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 02:59 PM
Jun 2025

their ratings sink. This "gem" is from their homepage.

live love laugh

(16,202 posts)
49. They don't care which proves it's not "corporate" profit that's driving them it's political profit.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 06:41 PM
Jun 2025

They make more by collaborating with the Republicans.

MiHale

(12,626 posts)
6. Gotta save some room for Obama...
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 02:59 PM
Jun 2025

Cuz if it wasn’t for Obama we wouldn’t have Biden.

Do I need the sarcasm thingy?

newdeal2

(4,779 posts)
7. Hindsight
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 03:00 PM
Jun 2025

They would have had to pass through Congress to have any teeth. And there was no chance of that happening.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
8. Headlline definitely sucks. But first few paragraphs or article lay it straight on trump's corruption.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 03:00 PM
Jun 2025

CNN

Ethics watchdogs rarely mince words about President Donald Trump. They’ve called him the most corrupt and conflicted president in US history. And since he returned to the White House, they’ve watched with horror as he privately dined with wealthy investors for his personal memecoin fund, brazenly accepted a $400 million luxury airplane from Qatar and purged inspectors general from federal agencies.

Adding to their long list of gripes, the president’s company announced Monday that it was launching Trump Mobile, a wireless service with monthly plans and a $499 smartphone, which would be regulated by many of the federal agencies now run by Trump appointees.
That has led to soul-searching among Washington, DC’s self-appointed ethics watchdogs at advocacy groups and think tanks, who are wondering how this could’ve been prevented. Some have championed liberal causes for years; others aren’t beholden to either party but are stunned by Trump’s sea-change to the ethics landscape.

While they primarily hold Trump responsible for his own actions, they’re increasingly concluding that former President Joe Biden also deserves some of the blame. “The single biggest failure of the Biden administration was that he and Congress didn’t pass any post-Watergate-style reforms,” said Dylan Hedtler-Gaudette, director of government affairs at the nonpartisan Project on Government Oversight. “President Biden had zero interest in doing that, and congressional Democrats didn’t have much interest.”

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/17/politics/government-ethics-norms-trump-biden-analysis

Keepthesoulalive

(2,120 posts)
25. Most people only read headlines
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 04:20 PM
Jun 2025

Judging by the Tapper book, the town halls and not discussing the scope of the current occupants disastrous decisions makes it appear they might be a little biased.

SocialDemocrat61

(6,854 posts)
30. Very true
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 04:32 PM
Jun 2025

They are totally biased against Biden and democrats. Unfortunately, some spend more time being apologists for the corporate media than supporting democrats.

maxsolomon

(38,195 posts)
40. How were "Post-Watergate-style reforms" supposed to be passed, Dylan Hedtler-Gaudette?
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 05:15 PM
Jun 2025

THE FILIBUSTER.

slightlv

(7,438 posts)
52. Oh, give me a freaking break.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 07:41 PM
Jun 2025

If Biden had TRIED to pass any reforms, they'd have been knocked down as soon as they were mentioned, and he'd be on some magat hit list for even suggesting such a thing. Besides, we took trump to task on emoluments the first go-round, and the courts and everyone just said "What emoluments?!"

LymphocyteLover

(9,365 posts)
55. THEY ACTUALLY TRIED to pass campaign finance and voting reforms-- and Repubs
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 09:15 PM
Jun 2025

filibustered it. I'm sure they tried other good govt reforms that the GOP blocked.

Also, Biden passed a shitload of stuff that brought the country back from major crisis.

Baitball Blogger

(51,731 posts)
11. What reforms would Biden have been able to pass with that Republicans who were shooting everything down?
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 03:07 PM
Jun 2025

And, everything that did get through, Trump is ignoring.

So, enough with this losing rhetoric of blaming Biden for everything.

Frankly, he did some very bright things, like made sure there wasn't any surplus money out there for Trump to confiscate and the Congressed forced this Congress to raise the debt limit.

ProfessorGAC

(75,852 posts)
15. Besides That...
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 03:19 PM
Jun 2025

...where is the proof that Trump would have followed the new rules?
This is a "concern" untethered from reality.

BattleRow

(2,090 posts)
26. Untethered,unhinged,unconcerned,unimpeachable
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 04:24 PM
Jun 2025

unapologetic,on and on with the "uns".
I'm sure some DUers can add to the ever expanding list of dismal adjectives.

senseandsensibility

(24,251 posts)
48. You know, that's a very good point
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 06:36 PM
Jun 2025

This is another way of "normalizing" trump as though he's just another President who can be expected to do what other Presidents have done.

mahatmakanejeeves

(68,226 posts)
14. The NY Times Pitchbot knows when he's in the presence of greatness.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 03:16 PM
Jun 2025
NY Times Pitchbot
‪@nytpitchbot.bsky.social‬

Follow
I shit you not, people

June 17, 2025 at 2:47 PM

I shit you not, people

NY Times Pitchbot (@nytpitchbot.bsky.social) 2025-06-17T18:47:48.869Z

unblock

(55,924 posts)
16. We had over a quarter of a millennium of presidents and congresses and supreme courts
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 03:31 PM
Jun 2025

Not one of them did enough to prevent Donnie from being brazenly and over-the-top corrupt.

Why single out Biden?

Why not just note that Donnie is the first president to be a convicted felon *and* abuse his office like one.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
27. Fascinating
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 04:25 PM
Jun 2025

the morning of the Senator and Rep getting assassinated and the Trump crap out......
I turned to my local Fox station and they had on cartoons, then I turned to the main Fox channel and they had a soccer game on......

Even MSNBC when it doesn't have the Left people on at night is 20 hours a day of leaning right....

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
28. Just as Trump is trying
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 04:27 PM
Jun 2025

to rename the Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America, I expect any day a Republican bill to name The United States of America to:

The United Corporations of America, or The Corporate Fascist States of America...

mucholderthandirt

(1,753 posts)
18. This is why I don't watch any news, even local channels. I can't take the bullshit.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 03:34 PM
Jun 2025

But, boy, that old Joe Biden sure had us all fooled, didn't he? With low interest rates, good jobs, more peace and security in the world. What were we thinking! :O Now we have Big Daddy Trump to take care of us and make the mean people be nice to America again...

Oh. Wait. Got to adjust my tin foil hat, the rays were leaking in again.

azureblue

(2,663 posts)
22. and not a single lament
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 04:13 PM
Jun 2025

about Trump and the GOP's lack of honor, integrity, leadership and duty to the American people..
JFC.

senseandsensibility

(24,251 posts)
39. Exactly.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 05:12 PM
Jun 2025

Many of the narratives used by the corporate media employ that tactic. It's gaslighting of the worst kind, especially for a "news" outlet.

IcyPeas

(24,863 posts)
24. Next "No Kings" type protest should be outside CNN headquarters.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 04:18 PM
Jun 2025

The MSM is so complicit as to where we are right now.

Grokenstein

(6,245 posts)
29. My local giveaway fishwrapper's editor wrote this nonsense a few days ago:
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 04:30 PM
Jun 2025
"Obama's Failure Led Us To Today"

Mays has always been the worst sort of both-sides glibertarian asshole, posting ragebait to keep the idiots subscribing (you can see some of those idiots bobbing their heads in the replies) and soft-serving dim donnie's atrocities...but wow, this one's something else.

Response to senseandsensibility (Original post)

senseandsensibility

(24,251 posts)
32. Yes
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 04:43 PM
Jun 2025

Should be obvious to anyone paying attention. Either that, or these "experts" in the article are playing dumb.

C Moon

(13,471 posts)
33. Most of the media is kissing his ass.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 04:44 PM
Jun 2025

Even local Los Angeles KCAL Ch 9, had a segment for a little while called "The Presidency" (or something like that), in which they talked about how wonderful trump is. No talk from the opposite side.

It may have been at the 100 day mark, either way, it was also just after he was taking federal funds away from organizations that disagreed with him.

Mtnmama

(134 posts)
34. I tried, but can't read the article,
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 04:48 PM
Jun 2025

As you have to be a subscriber to access it, and I'm not. From that headline, though, I can't see that as CNN's viewpoint. It's an analysis, and the word failure is in quotation marks, as if the author of the article doesn't see it that way. Two CNN reporters or analysts I do like and respect: Abby Phillips and Andrew McCabe. There are others, too, can't think of right now.

Bengus81

(9,826 posts)
37. Again...haven't watched or been to their POS website since that FAKE ASS Trump
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 04:58 PM
Jun 2025

Town hall. Then came the Jake Crapper book about Biden. Those fucks want to work both sides of the street thinking Dems will watch anyway.

Not me...................

NBachers

(19,184 posts)
38. Post-Watergate reforms?? The Watergate break-in happened June 17, 1972- 53 years ago.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 05:06 PM
Jun 2025

Is Biden responsible for Watergate now?

maxsolomon

(38,195 posts)
45. Ask the sole complainant in the article, Dylan Hedtler-Gaudette
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 05:58 PM
Jun 2025

No other President after Nixon passed "Post-Watergate Reforms".

Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama, Trump V1.0. But Biden, with no margin of error in the Senate and unable to override a McConnell-led Filibuster wall, is at fault.

At least CNN put "Failure" in quotes.

senseandsensibility

(24,251 posts)
43. Unfortunately, the emoluments clause was ignored even
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 05:45 PM
Jun 2025

during his first term. There's no way anyone's gonna use it now. I guess CNN will blame that on Biden too? Total insanity if you ask me.

Mz Pip

(28,352 posts)
47. Two things
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 06:05 PM
Jun 2025

that have absolutely nothing to do with each other

Can’t call out Trump’s lawlessness without raking a dig at Biden. Who are these experts?

ificandream

(11,688 posts)
53. Stop losing your shorts. IT'S ONE MAN'S OPINION!!!
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 08:03 PM
Jun 2025

They should have had the story marked as an opinion in the headline, but it clearly says "analysis" at the beginning.

People need to learn the difference between news stories and opinions. They are two different things.

Skittles

(169,575 posts)
56. no, that is NOT it
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 11:28 PM
Jun 2025

it's just ANOTHER EXAMPLE of how freaking BIASED the mainstream news has become

they are afraid of being targets of Trump and his brand of fascism

ificandream

(11,688 posts)
64. No, it's not. Again, it's one man's opinion.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:38 PM
Jun 2025

Newspapers in this country have been printing opinions (and opinions they don't agree with) since before the Declaration of Independence. It's part of freedom of the press. You or I may not agree with what the writer says, but they have a right to say it under our Constitution ... the same Constitution and rights that we're battling now to keep intact.

The only way this could be anything close to bias was if they did like Fox does - all of their crap is reported without any indication of opinion because, of course, they agree with it. This piece was clearly marked as "opinion," as it should have been. CNN did absolutely nothing wrong. Anyone standing up for our democracy should be standing up for their right to print this as opinion.

The lines between news and opinion have certainly become blurred in recent years. But newspaper opinion pieces are and always will be different than news.

People would be saving themselves a lot of stress by realizing that opinion pieces will always be there in newspapers (and on properly managed news sites). As I said earlier, it's all part of freedom of the press -- something we all know and love. Well, at least those of us on this side of the aisle.

Response to ificandream (Reply #64)

Warpy

(114,389 posts)
54. Republicans aren't experts at anything but complaining.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 08:12 PM
Jun 2025

and most of them are compolaining about things that have no basis in reality.

nini

(16,820 posts)
58. CNN is a huge part of the problem in this country
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 11:57 PM
Jun 2025

I don't understand why people aren't boycotting them. I haven't put those fascists on my TV in years.

Blue Owl

(58,170 posts)
59. What a beautiful thing it would be
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:09 AM
Jun 2025

If everyone turned off CNN and blocked their online news feeds and it shriveled up and fucking died the slow painful death a toxic propaganda outlet deserves.

ificandream

(11,688 posts)
67. No, it wouldn't be beautiful.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 04:05 PM
Jun 2025

In fact, it would be one step closer to a Trump dictatorship.

CNN, I think, tries to be middle of the road in its coverage. I don't always see eye to eye with what they do, but I'd take anything they do over what Fox and the rest of the RW media idiots do.

The real media -- and that includes CNN -- isn't trying to bow to our feet like the RW side does to their lemmings. That's a very good thing. We need an independent media, especially now. And CNN is that. Look at all the criticism they get from both sides.

TrollBuster9090

(6,114 posts)
61. Seriously. Stay Away From CNN. The Only Thing Worse Than A Trump Cult Propaganda Network (Fox) Is A Network...
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 02:39 AM
Jun 2025

...that APPEASES the Trump Cult. Doing the classic, vomit-inducing 'both-siderist' maneuver. Hiring MAGA peckerheads to try to bring Republican leaning voters into the fold is just a dereliction of journalistic duty. On the one hand, you have Democrats, who want to have a sensible tax code, a humane foreign policy, and treat all people with respect. Fine. Now, bring on a bunch of fanatics from a personality cult, who want to turn the country into a Putin-style white, Christian, nationalist KLEPTOCRACY.

Because 'both sides,' right?

FUCK THAT! If CNN tries to mollycoddle a gang of plutocrats who are trying to destroy the country as we know it...fuck em!

Seriously, Anderson Cooper is the only person on that abominable network I'll watch. And if they happen to show Jake Crapper's face during a commercial promo, I usually end up having to buy another TV. (LED TVs don't tend to work very well after somebody has put the remote, dead center, into the middle of the screen.)

At this point, CNN is only marginally better than those vapid lickspittles at ABC, who fired Terry Moran, after he politely pointed out the FACT that Trump is insane if he thinks that MS13 photograph wasn't photoshopped. Apparently, any reporter who shows some character and dedication will have the life expectancy of a donut in a police station at ABC.

BOYCOTT CNN and ABC. And put MSNBC on notice that we're watching what they do. Just because they're the only network left that hasn't COMPLETELY sold their souls for ratings doesn't mean our viewership is GUARANTEED. At this point, I'm hoping Rachel Maddow takes all the money they've been paying her, and starts her own network. I'd switch in a heartbeat.

samsingh

(18,243 posts)
62. there is a market for all the rich reporters and executives to start an objective
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 08:06 AM
Jun 2025

news group.

i hardly listen to cnn, and no longer visit their website very often. I used to visit several times a day, now it may be once a week. I'm tired of the bullshit both ways headlines and the both siderisms.

MSNBC is better but also getting restrained.

oysterpoint

(16 posts)
65. No one should be watching CNN at this point
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 02:50 PM
Jun 2025

They have bent the knee. Don't give them any ratings support! They had a chance to repair the damage done from the Mango I regime, but decided to trash Biden/Harris instead, against their own best interests. Now that Mango II is fully in force, CNN once again shrinks from its responsibilities. Have not watched them in years, and frankly, have not missed anything. MSNBC, BBC, Reuters, AP, The Guardian, and BlueSky all have better, factual coverage of current events.

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