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Maraya1969

(23,419 posts)
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 08:29 PM Jun 2025

Just want to share something my MAGA cousin said to me. First, I have pretty much

gotten her out of my life because trump.

Also, I have always said that I believe prosperity follows generosity, (and that is why trump has continued his grifts all these years.He loses it as fast as he makes it). I have wondered why she, in her early 60's with a husband and no kids cannot afford to retire. I don't believe I ever said that specifically to her. But, I know they have done all the stupid trump things - like buying silver, buying those black rocks from Russia to protect against 5G and getting involved with bitcoin. (I have seen all of these things advertised on MAGA shows etc I also saw Ivermectin advertised right next to a Trump advertisement so there is something weird there)

Anyway there was a conversation between her and me recently - after a real falling out when I finally realised that the reason she stopped inviting me for Thanksgiving etc was fuck face trump and she admitted it.

Sooooooo, the last text from her was, "I helped 20 people today. What did you do?" The truth of it is she is a MD and she does acupuncture so she was speaking about people who literally PAID HER for her help. I know people go into fields where they can help people and they really like it but damn, do not tell me that is your frigging charity work!

She makes a very good salary. I don't know now what it is but in general doctors do well.

Anyway, that's it. If someone has experienced something similar I would love to know.

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Just want to share something my MAGA cousin said to me. First, I have pretty much (Original Post) Maraya1969 Jun 2025 OP
Tell her you don't like to brag about vanlassie Jun 2025 #1
There's an old joke: FalloutShelter Jun 2025 #3
. . . or, you can tell her your good deeds are priceless. nt in2herbs Jun 2025 #8
Thing is, this MD who does acupuncture Disaffected Jun 2025 #2
An MD doing acupuncture? Strange. I've always found that Most MDs consider acupuncture junk science. Wiz Imp Jun 2025 #4
There is a "Doctor of Chinese Medicine" vanlassie Jun 2025 #5
You don't think doctors of Chinese medicine iemanja Jun 2025 #17
I don't think they are equivalent to vanlassie Jun 2025 #18
They are trained in Eastern medicine iemanja Jun 2025 #19
I'm sure that's true. vanlassie Jun 2025 #20
There are MDs in China writerJT Jun 2025 #25
You're not wrong. writerJT Jun 2025 #26
Acupuncture is great for muscle pain. Demobrat Jun 2025 #7
I have no opinion of it since I've never tried it or known personally anybody who tried it Wiz Imp Jun 2025 #11
Her title is DO. She also works in a hospital rehab. But she got involved in Acupuncture many Maraya1969 Jun 2025 #21
D.O. is a Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine SomewhereInTheMiddle Jun 2025 #24
She's a childfree married MD in her sixties and Demobrat Jun 2025 #6
You can tell her you work every day to save democracy and that helps millions of people. 2MuchNoise Jun 2025 #9
"For free? How generous of you!" Qutzupalotl Jun 2025 #10
I'll never be able to retire...My Dad had 2 degrees in Engineering from Notre Dame Tribetime Jun 2025 #12
Not to be crude, but FullySupportDems Jun 2025 #13
Acupuncture? LOL BannonsLiver Jun 2025 #14
Ever try it? Scrivener7 Jun 2025 #28
Yes. BannonsLiver Jun 2025 #31
Me too. It helped me a lot. Scrivener7 Jun 2025 #32
I'm confused - maybe she doesn't want to retire womanofthehills Jun 2025 #15
You made money off of bitcoin? I always think there is nothing holding it up in the background Maraya1969 Jun 2025 #22
She sounds toxic. Typical MAGA nini Jun 2025 #16
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2025 #23
She means she ripped off 20 people. Acupuncture is bunk. RockRaven Jun 2025 #27
Tell her: You hurt a helluva lot more than 20 people today Martin Eden Jun 2025 #29
Buying silver is a "trump thing?" purple_haze Jun 2025 #30

FalloutShelter

(14,190 posts)
3. There's an old joke:
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 08:42 PM
Jun 2025

A rich man goes to Heaven and St. Asks him, “ what were your charitable acts?”
The rich man says “I gave a penny here and I gave a penny there.”
St. Peter said, “Take your two cents and go to Hell.”

Disaffected

(6,168 posts)
2. Thing is, this MD who does acupuncture
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 08:38 PM
Jun 2025

doesn't help anybody except herself. Might be worth pointing that out to her (even though it will probably to be fruitless).

Wiz Imp

(9,016 posts)
4. An MD doing acupuncture? Strange. I've always found that Most MDs consider acupuncture junk science.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 08:43 PM
Jun 2025

vanlassie

(6,220 posts)
5. There is a "Doctor of Chinese Medicine"
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 08:47 PM
Jun 2025

it was the only professional my former major insurance employer would pay for acupuncture.

iemanja

(57,401 posts)
17. You don't think doctors of Chinese medicine
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:45 AM
Jun 2025

are legit? (I got this impression from your use of quotes.)

iemanja

(57,401 posts)
19. They are trained in Eastern medicine
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:58 AM
Jun 2025

which has its own knowledge base. I might point out that the Chinese are far healthier than Americans.

writerJT

(467 posts)
25. There are MDs in China
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 02:37 AM
Jun 2025

who are trained in western medicine.

And much like here, there’s a difference between them and the people who have degrees in Chinese medicine, acupuncture, etc.

And it’s kind of strange to assume that “the Chinese” (really?) are healthier because they’re all using the same approach.

Demobrat

(10,263 posts)
7. Acupuncture is great for muscle pain.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 08:53 PM
Jun 2025

It definitely works. Medicare covers it now for lower back pain. The practitioner has to be under the supervision of an MD. Or I guess be one.

Wiz Imp

(9,016 posts)
11. I have no opinion of it since I've never tried it or known personally anybody who tried it
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 09:25 PM
Jun 2025

But I have never gone to a General Practitioner or Family Medicine Doctor who considered it legitimate medical treatment.

Maraya1969

(23,419 posts)
21. Her title is DO. She also works in a hospital rehab. But she got involved in Acupuncture many
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:27 AM
Jun 2025

years ago. And I would have to admit that she is really good. I don't know if insurance pays for these people but she does it once a week.

24. D.O. is a Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 02:15 AM
Jun 2025
Osteopaths are basically the same as MD's but my limited experience (dated one as she finished med school) show me they are by training and philosophy somewhat more open to "alternative" medicines.

A DO who used acupuncture alongside more common western treatments would not surprise me.

According to my MD here in Rwanda who got his degree from a western medical school in China, TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) was a required part of the western medicine curriculum at his school.

There are TCM medical schools and departments in many large hospitals in China.

I have never had acupuncture or TCM and have no personal opinion on its efficacy.

Demobrat

(10,263 posts)
6. She's a childfree married MD in her sixties and
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 08:50 PM
Jun 2025

she can’t afford to retire? That’s….weird. Anyway she sounds insufferable. The response that comes to mind is “I did my job, same as you”.
But no response is an excellent response

Tribetime

(7,063 posts)
12. I'll never be able to retire...My Dad had 2 degrees in Engineering from Notre Dame
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 09:33 PM
Jun 2025

Never retired..Always worked medical bills strspoed him most of his life. I think there are plenty of people like me.

FullySupportDems

(408 posts)
13. Not to be crude, but
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 10:41 PM
Jun 2025

It's kind of like a turd in the swimming pool. A little bit of shitty makes a lot of something nice not nice anymore. And standing with the racist bigoted hateful people who want to hurt about half our country and every foreigner they can get ahold of... is so shitty.

womanofthehills

(10,718 posts)
15. I'm confused - maybe she doesn't want to retire
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 11:31 PM
Jun 2025

Many of us are working well beyond our 60’s - because we have to or we like to or both. If she did put her money in Bitcoin- she’s good.

Maraya1969

(23,419 posts)
22. You made money off of bitcoin? I always think there is nothing holding it up in the background
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:31 AM
Jun 2025

I know she invested in one company that was either a scam or went bankrupt and she lost everything.

nini

(16,821 posts)
16. She sounds toxic. Typical MAGA
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 11:53 PM
Jun 2025

Cut her out of your life. There's enough negativity to deal with already, then to have to put up with intentionally cruel people like that?

Do yourself a favor and be dine with her.

H2O Man

(78,650 posts)
23. Recommended.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:38 AM
Jun 2025

I come from a fairly large extended family. My father was one of 14 siblings. My mother had 4 siblings. Hence, I have a lot of cousins. A heck of a lot, in fact. A total of three cousins are maga. I stay in touch with two of them, on good terms. We just don't talk about politics. The third one I just avoid. She has lived a pampered life, and has always been a spoiled brat. The last time we spoke was in the felon's first term. She attempted to take maga positions, and in surprisingly self-confident manner, considering she is not that bright. I hurt her feelings, not by attacking her, but simply telling how much of a creep the felon is.

RockRaven

(18,739 posts)
27. She means she ripped off 20 people. Acupuncture is bunk.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 02:48 AM
Jun 2025

But it is pretty on brand for a MAGAt to classify defrauding someone as helping them.

And if she is a 5G-bogeyman dumbass, she's gonna have to engage some industrial grade cognitive dissonance to deal with these new "Trump phones" that are apparently the hellspawn clan's newest grift.

 

purple_haze

(401 posts)
30. Buying silver is a "trump thing?"
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 07:12 AM
Jun 2025

Oh shit, I'm screwed, I guess. I've been doing it for decades. And my parents and grandparents before me.

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