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AZLD4Candidate

(6,730 posts)
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:49 AM Jun 2025

You all know me and my wife's green card saga. In 2.5 hours my wife's flight from Shanghai lands at JFK

I am on pins and needles now.

I do not trust the immigration people at the border.
I do not trust ICE as she goes through the airport to get from international arrivals to domestic departures.
I do not trust the police to protect her from these kidnappers

I do not trust the government to honor her green card.

I was nervous to death the Chinese government wouldn't let her out due to their at-will enforcement of their social credit system.
I am terrified the American government will destroy my family and not let her back in, protecting the country from a green card holding kindergarten teacher and master's degree student.

All because she isn't white, christian, or come from a country Agent Orange doesn't denounce daily.

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You all know me and my wife's green card saga. In 2.5 hours my wife's flight from Shanghai lands at JFK (Original Post) AZLD4Candidate Jun 2025 OP
I wish you and your family wellness. I have none of your issues but I do not trust Trump/ICE either. riversedge Jun 2025 #1
This is a legitimate concern...I validate your feelings... FarPoint Jun 2025 #2
Please let us know how it goes. Katinfl Jun 2025 #3
Do you have an attorney on standby? JMCKUSICK Jun 2025 #4
Under the Walter-McCarran Act, decisions at the border are final and there is no appeal. AZLD4Candidate Jun 2025 #5
Oh boy, I did not know that. JMCKUSICK Jun 2025 #7
Ahh, so that is why they want to prevent entry and get people out of U.S. jurisdiction LiberalArkie Jun 2025 #13
CBP is completely unaccountable and their decisions are final. AZLD4Candidate Jun 2025 #18
I grew up in Tucson BonnieJW Jun 2025 #34
Good luck! It seems ICE has concentrated their efforts in Blue States. surfered Jun 2025 #6
SEA, SFO, LAX, ORD, DTW, JFK, DUL are all in blue states. She's flying into JFK. AZLD4Candidate Jun 2025 #8
Isn't NY a blue state? I'm confused. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Jun 2025 #12
Just pointing out an observation of their enforcement. Which is why I wished for good luck. surfered Jun 2025 #15
👍 littlemissmartypants Jun 2025 #23
Sending both of you those powerful DU vibes!!! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2025 #9
All the best. I'm so sorry you've had these worries and hassles Maeve Jun 2025 #10
I cannot imagine the mercuryblues Jun 2025 #11
New court ruling surfered Jun 2025 #14
Two things: 1: That's people already here, not people trying to enter at the border. She's at the mercy of the AZLD4Candidate Jun 2025 #17
Hoping for the best.🙏 surfered Jun 2025 #24
Visualize success. barbtries Jun 2025 #16
Please accept this agnostics prayers. RVN VET71 Jun 2025 #19
I really hope it all goes well for your wife tulipsandroses Jun 2025 #20
I don't blame you for being terrified over this. Let us know when she's safely out of the airport. Vinca Jun 2025 #21
Understandable. You've been through so much! littlemissmartypants Jun 2025 #22
I wish you both the best of luck!!! CaptainTruth Jun 2025 #25
Oh, boy!!! Id be a basket case! Sending you both thoughts for safety !!!!!! Karadeniz Jun 2025 #26
Has your wife's flight landed? Please let us know when she is safely with you. Fla Dem Jun 2025 #27
I hope it goes well. I have the same concerns drray23 Jun 2025 #28
I completely understand Sailingdiver Jun 2025 #29
saying a prayer for you and yours stillcool Jun 2025 #30
Sending positive vibes that all goes smoothly. iluvtennis Jun 2025 #31
Wish you both the best of luck! Kaleva Jun 2025 #32
Keep Us Posted! Deep State Witch Jun 2025 #33
Your concerns are very valid! sdfernando Jun 2025 #35
Thank you for your updates. Like many others sending positive ChazII Jun 2025 #36
We are hoping and praying for your success FakeNoose Jun 2025 #37
A former girlfriend of mine's daughter was born in South Africa. Squaredeal Jun 2025 #38
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2025 #39
You drank a brain worm. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #40
She did, it was LG again. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2025 #44
It might look bad, but things could always be worse. Imagine if she was a Doctor in Gaza. nt Exp Jun 2025 #41
Disgusting comment. Please delete this. This is not the thread for that! AZLD4Candidate Jun 2025 #42
Disgusting comment is right! ShazzieB Jun 2025 #43

riversedge

(79,362 posts)
1. I wish you and your family wellness. I have none of your issues but I do not trust Trump/ICE either.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:53 AM
Jun 2025

FarPoint

(14,546 posts)
2. This is a legitimate concern...I validate your feelings...
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:54 AM
Jun 2025

I sense this will go smoothly as the focus has been on Latino immigrants lately....Fingers crossed, and a "BIG Hug" for you.... keep us updated...

AZLD4Candidate

(6,730 posts)
5. Under the Walter-McCarran Act, decisions at the border are final and there is no appeal.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:19 AM
Jun 2025

Last edited Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:09 AM - Edit history (1)

An attorney can do nothing until the foreigner is legally admitted into the country.

JMCKUSICK

(5,107 posts)
7. Oh boy, I did not know that.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:21 AM
Jun 2025

Well, with positive energy flowing freely from my spirit this morning, please let us know right after your arms embrace her so we can celebrate with you

AZLD4Candidate

(6,730 posts)
18. CBP is completely unaccountable and their decisions are final.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:08 AM
Jun 2025

Francis Walter and Pat McCarran hated Jews, the Chinese, and Communists in that order. Our immigration laws were designed to keep people out, make the process of immigration as cumbersome, time consuming, and expensive as possible, and the revisions under Reagan made even a speeding ticket subject to revocation and deportation.

If they are admitted, they have civil rights and a way to fight. At the border, they do not.

I was almost denied re-entry into the US from Nogales four times because I refused to answer personal questions like:

What did you do in Mexico? (None of your business)
Where do you live? (That way. . pointed towards Tucson)
How long were you in Mexico? (long enough to do what I needed to do)

I was told by an obnoxious CBP officer, well yelled at, that I will answer all their questions and "why is it Americans cause all our problems?"

They won't allow video or cameras at their checkpoints because they don't want video evidence of their abuses to be used against them.

CBP has all the power at the border. And under this asshole in the White House, they are even worse.

BonnieJW

(3,079 posts)
34. I grew up in Tucson
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:28 AM
Jun 2025

I can remember my family going to nogales as a day trip to buy liquor. You could bring back one bottle per person in the car, no matter their age. A baby could bring back a bottle of liquor.
There was never a problem going or coming. Not with people of any color. Mexicans came into the US every day to work and shop and then go home.
People of color will have their revenge on us when the hospitality industry goes under. When people lose their farms. When food shortages begin. When nursing homes have to close. When hospitals have to close beds. When construction companies can't meet their deadlines.
Wait until there are no more honest hardworking people and magats finally realize all the criminals are still here.

mercuryblues

(16,171 posts)
11. I cannot imagine the
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:37 AM
Jun 2025

Fear and anxiety you are feeling. I hope everything works out for your family.

AZLD4Candidate

(6,730 posts)
17. Two things: 1: That's people already here, not people trying to enter at the border. She's at the mercy of the
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:02 AM
Jun 2025

unaccountable CBP at the border whose decisions are final and not subject to appeal under the Walter-McCarran Act of 1950. They deny, there is no recourse. Denial of entry is instant deportation under the INA of 1950 (Walter-McCarran). This was passed over-riding Truman's veto in 1950 at the height of the Red Scare and McCarthyism as a xenophobic response to the "fear" that communists were in our sock drawers, freezers, and Little League teams.

2: This admin has adopted Andrew Jackson's "let's see the court enforce its decisions" philosophy and will thumb their nose at any court decision they don't like and don't agree with.

barbtries

(31,122 posts)
16. Visualize success.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:49 AM
Jun 2025

I can hardly imagine your anxiety right now.

It will be fine. It will be fine.

RVN VET71

(3,125 posts)
19. Please accept this agnostics prayers.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:12 AM
Jun 2025

These are ugly times, but sometimes the sun shines through. May it shine for you and your spouse.

Keep a lawyer at-the-ready in case things go south. If they do go south, you will have a long and bitter battle ahead. With a decent lawyer, you will prevail at last. But the fight would be nerve wracking.

My prayer is that your wife arrives and her re-entry to the U.S. goes smoothly and you will be able to bring her home without incident -- the way things are supposed to happen in America.

tulipsandroses

(8,131 posts)
20. I really hope it all goes well for your wife
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:17 AM
Jun 2025

I’m from an immigrant family and it is a worrisome time. All here legally, but you just don’t know what BS this administration will try. Some folks have decided not to travel until this administration is gone. That’s how you know you are living under a dictator, when you are gripped with fear about what they will do to you.

Vinca

(53,337 posts)
21. I don't blame you for being terrified over this. Let us know when she's safely out of the airport.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:19 AM
Jun 2025

littlemissmartypants

(31,619 posts)
22. Understandable. You've been through so much!
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:21 AM
Jun 2025

You both may have PTSD by now. But I hope not!

Please keep us posted!

All the best to you and your bride.
❤️

drray23

(8,578 posts)
28. I hope it goes well. I have the same concerns
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:40 AM
Jun 2025

Even thought, I am a naturalized citizen and white (French/American) I worry about traveling abroad and coming back. I was harassed at the border many times when I was a visa and then green card holder. My wife is native born American.

Yet, we are considering using burner phones when we fly to Europe and back into the US to avoid having them prying into our actual phones.

Sailingdiver

(340 posts)
29. I completely understand
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:51 AM
Jun 2025

My wife, now a naturalized citizen, brought her daughter, age 10, from her home country in Feb, they entered via EWR. We had gone through the process and obtained visa, so everything is legal.

Nonetheless, I was so worried CBP would pull some bullshit and try to deny entry. But that was before miller talked stupid into starting the nonsense they are doing now.

We'd like to file for her daughter's Certificate of Citizenship (she's supposed to obtain derivative citizenship because her mom is a citizen) but we're worried this may draw undue attention.

Now, I would be as worried as you are.

Best of luck.

sdfernando

(6,019 posts)
35. Your concerns are very valid!
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:36 AM
Jun 2025

If I were in the same situation I would be sick with worry and anxiety. Hoping it all goes well and you are reunited and your family is once again whole.

FakeNoose

(40,147 posts)
37. We are hoping and praying for your success
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:44 AM
Jun 2025

Even if it means you have to wear a red hat, it's worth it to get her home safely!

Please let us know how it goes.

Squaredeal

(709 posts)
38. A former girlfriend of mine's daughter was born in South Africa.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:49 AM
Jun 2025

Unlike my ex-girlfriend, her now adult, lazy daughter never followed-up to get citizenship. She continually lost her card and her mother would always pay to replace it. The last time, the fee for a lost card was $1,000 and my then girlfriend told me that it was the last time she would help her this way. I thought that it was foolish for her not to apply for citizenship and my then GF agreed. Now her daughter has to worry about being sent back to South Africa, which she left as a toddler, if confronted by ICE. She works as a waitress in a restaurant in a blue city, typical job location that ICE lurks for undocumented immigrants.

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Exp

(752 posts)
41. It might look bad, but things could always be worse. Imagine if she was a Doctor in Gaza. nt
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 10:16 AM
Jun 2025
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