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republianmushroom

(20,650 posts)
1. Yup, same here.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 08:40 PM
Jul 4

Also wondered how the civil war, brother against brother could of happened. I do understand how now. Eye openers.

PikaBlue

(360 posts)
2. We have no excuse.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 09:09 PM
Jul 4

At least the German people had no idea where it would all lead; but we do! We know this playbook. I ask myself many times each day, "At what point should/could we have stopped this?" Personally, I felt that once Trump lost the election in 2020, we should have fast tracked prosecution of Trump and his entire administration - especially Stephen Miller for crimes against humanity. I know that (probably) wiser heads than mine feared a civil war had we done so; however, I'm uncertain that we have avoided that outcome. I do believe in the decent people in the United States. It's very likely that much of the truths we have held to be self evident will be burned to the ground; yet, I can envision building a new United States that will give substance to the aspirations of our founding fathers. For now, we can only mourn but this won't last forever. No such ugly, corrupt, and morally bankrupt regime has ever hung onto power. We need to be patient, rational, forward thinking, and we need to expend our energy toward a vision of what we can and will become.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
11. If it hadn't been for the U.S.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:13 PM
Jul 5

Hitler would have succeeded with out our aid. I don't see any superpower(s) coming to our aid..........Certainly not Russia or China.......

PikaBlue

(360 posts)
20. In your opinion
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 07:47 PM
Jul 5

If Hitler had kept his "solutions" within the confines of Germany, do you think the allied forces would have intervened? In other words, do you think England, France, Canada, the U.S., Australia, and (the most beautiful) New Zealand, among other nations would have gone to war against Germany had Hitler not embarked on invasion? My own opinion is that most, if not all, of the allies would have deemed the situation to be "None of our business." I agree that the U.S. will have to right its ship of state without international assistance. We've made this mess (not we the people who never voted for this clown or his brown shirts) so we are going to have to clean it up (not we the people who embrace the clown. MAGA have never been house trained so they won't believe there is any mess to be cleaned.) Glum as I feel, I do believe we can do it; but then sacrifice may be painful.

PatSeg

(50,601 posts)
16. Absolutely no excuse
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:00 PM
Jul 5

People can't even feign ignorance in this day and age, so that means a large percentage of our population is just plain cruel and sadistic.

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BadgerMom

(3,258 posts)
3. I've read Holocaust literature since I was a preteen (Diary of Anne Frank).
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 09:09 PM
Jul 4

I’m 72. The question I’ve always asked myself is ”what would I risk to help?” And now I must answer. I’m old. I’ll risk a lot. I don’t have long to live with consequences in this life. It’s if I can live with myself in whatever time I have left.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
8. these "New" Repubs
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:01 PM
Jul 5

have made "Everything old is new again" their mantra........

Their playbook is using every last thing Hitler did, but trying to not repeat all his mistakes that denied him a win.......

Irish_Dem

(72,343 posts)
9. Their planning has been quite successful.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:06 PM
Jul 5

Brilliant psy-ops propaganda by Putin and our enemies.

The crime of the century.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
10. Agreed
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:10 PM
Jul 5

It has been well orchestrated and organized by these "New" RepubliCONs.....and continuously fine tuned for 45+ years............

WHILE THE NATION SLEPT..............

Irish_Dem

(72,343 posts)
12. Yes one US political party sold out their country, lock stock and barrel.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:25 PM
Jul 5

For money and power.

brush

(60,587 posts)
6. Is everybody forgetting Gaza? It's been happening thete. And irony of all ironies...
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 09:18 PM
Jul 4

it's being done by those who were victims of the WWll one.

Shame.

Gimpyknee

(343 posts)
13. I too will never question again how it was possible for such an evil man as Hitler could come to power.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:16 PM
Jul 5

There are far more deplorables in our country than Hillary Clinton imagined.

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