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Bo Zarts

(26,254 posts)
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:18 PM Jul 2025

I put my wilderness fire lookout on lockdown today. No more visitations by members of the public.

Again, like in 2023, I must be extremely vague about my location. Given the tragedy last Sunday in Coeur d’Alene and events today (7/4) in the vicinity of the lookout, I think you will understand.

I opened up the lookout on July 1. Usually during the July 4 holiday week there are some ATV riders that come up the hell-rough road to the tower. But none came until today (a rather cool, cloudy day which turned to rain, drizzle, and fog). Shortly after noon two side-by-sides (RZRs) and a quad came up. A man and woman (50-ish) in each RZR, and a teenage boy on the quad. More about them later.

During the hour or so preceding their arrival in the vicinity of the lookout, there were about eight concussive explosions from places well below me and maybe within three miles. Not fireworks. I thought: C-4 or 82mm mortars, harkening back to my Vietnam days. But then four more explosions seemed to be getting closer, and coming from the general direction of the road leading up to the lookout. Then I saw the three ATVs .. then they stopped at the saddle between my peak and the next over. Then there was a much louder explosion from the direction of the ATVs.

Meanwhile, elsewhere in the national forest below me, was sporadic gunfire of all descriptions. But that is the nature of July 4 in the woods in the wild west.

Not longer after that last explosion, I saw the ATVs start moving again. I knew that they would be on the peak, below my 30’ lookout, in about six minutes. I didn’t need to lockdown because I stay lock-downed.

I watched as they parked and shutdown the ATVs. One male RZR driver had on a red hat that said “I.C.E.” I shit you not. What kind of sadistic fucking joke was THAT? Or was it a joke? He had a handgun in a chest-carry. The other male RZR driver had a MAGA hat, but no visible weapons.

One of the women passengers got out of the ATV and walked towards the stairs to the tower. I then went out on the catwalk and greeted her .. pleasantly. She asked if they could come up and visit the lookout.

At that point, I got to use a concocted story that two other lookouts and I had discussed last night. “I am sorry, but recent tragic events in Coeur d’Alene have necessitated changes in security procedures at remote locations like this. I’m sure that you understand. The lookout is closed to all visitors and, beyond that I am not authorized to discuss any security arrangements.”

Yes, she said. (Gunfire in distance). Things like that, I said.

“AND PEOPLE ARE EVEN EXPLODING SEMTEX,” she says. Who the fuck said anything about Semtex? How did she extract that term out of what we had discussed so far? Semtex is not C-4, but it is similar. And Semtex is preferred by terrorists because it is hard to trace.

I’m fairly sure that this was all innocuous, including the fucking ICE hat. But maybe it wasn’t. All aspects of this event were documented and reported.

I’m not paranoid. But I am.

Bo Zarts




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I put my wilderness fire lookout on lockdown today. No more visitations by members of the public. (Original Post) Bo Zarts Jul 2025 OP
Be safe. nini Jul 2025 #1
that seems terrifying WhiteTara Jul 2025 #2
Welcome to the Turd's 'Police State.' Tarzanrock Jul 2025 #3
Oh boy, my dear Bo . . . CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2025 #4
Good to hear about your safety precautions; elleng Jul 2025 #5
Like they say, "You're not being paranoid if people really are out to get you". Please stay safe. FadedMullet Jul 2025 #6
These cos-playing militia types are just waiting for the rubbersole Jul 2025 #7
Agreed. Tarzanrock Jul 2025 #8
Sp long as nobody is shooting back. malthaussen Jul 2025 #17
Sofa seals 3auld6phart Jul 2025 #26
My fantasy DENVERPOPS Jul 2025 #46
They want to kill their neighbors. malthaussen Jul 2025 #18
This has been my personal experience as well biophile Jul 2025 #21
Not all of us. It's just that they're loud, noisy aholes and we're not. ms liberty Jul 2025 #34
Doesn't matter. They are the visible ones, and the rest don't restrain them. malthaussen Jul 2025 #61
So you're personally insulting me for being unable to control my neighbors ms liberty Jul 2025 #64
Nope. I'm criticizing the culture of your region. malthaussen Jul 2025 #65
How will they identify which Americans to harm? QED Jul 2025 #57
Nah. You don't get it. malthaussen Jul 2025 #63
My gods, Bo, please stay safe. Thx for letting us know -- you'll be in our hearts. 🌺❤️ Hekate Jul 2025 #9
With ya! Jamesm9164 Jul 2025 #10
I wont ask, but I hope that you are armed. CentralMass Jul 2025 #11
Wonderful Bo, please be safe !!! fierywoman Jul 2025 #12
Quick thinking on your part. HeartsCanHope Jul 2025 #13
Be safe, Bo Zarts blogslug Jul 2025 #14
Do I understand this correctly? NJCher Jul 2025 #15
Man, it's enough to make one want to return to civilization. malthaussen Jul 2025 #16
LCES applies to more than fire safety angrychair Jul 2025 #19
Are you armed? mainer Jul 2025 #20
+1 dalton99a Jul 2025 #22
I'm open to your argument defacto7 Jul 2025 #36
The attackers would think twice if they drew return fire mainer Jul 2025 #40
Well, he DOES have the high ground... FailureToCommunicate Jul 2025 #55
I hope you are. CaptainTruth Jul 2025 #41
I'm so sorry you needed to lock down Nittersing Jul 2025 #23
Can't blame you for being a bit paranoid... Wounded Bear Jul 2025 #24
Michigan Militia Grown Nationwide Kid Berwyn Jul 2025 #25
Thank you for the reminder of how truly vile ollie was, and continues to be. niyad Jul 2025 #28
You are NOT being paranoid. You are taking sensible precautions niyad Jul 2025 #27
This DEFINITELY!!! calimary Jul 2025 #53
That is scary. 58Sunliner Jul 2025 #29
Wow! Thanks for the first hand report. Be safe! Blues Heron Jul 2025 #30
That is scary. Watch your back, as they say. 58Sunliner Jul 2025 #31
hope you have some auto trail cams lurking around HAB911 Jul 2025 #32
Stay safe out there (nt) wysimdnwyg Jul 2025 #33
Stay safe, Bo. sheshe2 Jul 2025 #35
Semtex? How? I mean, is someone in Ilsa Jul 2025 #37
Once upon a time our law enforcement agencies treated people like that... pandr32 Jul 2025 #38
I hope your badassery continues to keep you safe. ancianita Jul 2025 #39
An ounce of paranoia beats a pound of death certificates. The Mouth Jul 2025 #42
Given the current state of emboldened domestic terrorists dlk Jul 2025 #43
Where is law enforcement? None? National forests just a free for all? JHC. Evolve Dammit Jul 2025 #44
arson in canada. better safe than sorry. pansypoo53219 Jul 2025 #45
The man who showers with his shotgun orangecrush Jul 2025 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Jul 2025 #48
Regarding your last two sentences, an old joke: Just Because You're Paranoid Doesn't Mean They're Not Out to Get You. JoetheShow Jul 2025 #49
Take care of yourself. barbtries Jul 2025 #50
Good idea Bo Zarts. Stay safe 🩵 Clouds Passing Jul 2025 #51
Hate to hear it, totally get it! Be safe up there! marble falls Jul 2025 #52
I respect your solid preparation and your measured responses. democrank Jul 2025 #54
Please, stay safe, and keep it locked up wendyb-NC Jul 2025 #56
Funny she said send Semtex. k55f5r Jul 2025 #58
Just because you're paranoid... bluescribbler Jul 2025 #59
Probably meant TnDem Jul 2025 #60
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean everybody's not out to get you." --Anonymous raccoon Jul 2025 #62

nini

(16,820 posts)
1. Be safe.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:22 PM
Jul 2025

I'd assume the worst of just about anyone these days in a situation like thst.

WhiteTara

(31,193 posts)
2. that seems terrifying
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:23 PM
Jul 2025

You are so wonderful to be a lookout, even without terrorists coming to visit.

 

Tarzanrock

(1,250 posts)
3. Welcome to the Turd's 'Police State.'
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:29 PM
Jul 2025

These jackbooted, armor wearing Gestapo Assholes are everywhere in 'Occupied' Los Angeles. Your 'paranoia' is not overdone. Be careful and stay safe!

CaliforniaPeggy

(156,131 posts)
4. Oh boy, my dear Bo . . .
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:33 PM
Jul 2025

I am quite relieved that you got through that episode unscathed. I know you're being very careful.

A certain amount of paranoia is a very healthy thing.

FadedMullet

(694 posts)
6. Like they say, "You're not being paranoid if people really are out to get you". Please stay safe.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:47 PM
Jul 2025

rubbersole

(10,986 posts)
7. These cos-playing militia types are just waiting for the
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:58 PM
Jul 2025

"Order" to clean out the riff-raff. Incel dreamland. Pardoned J6ers are the role models. Shit will hit the fan. These people aren't qualified for the real Armed Services but this Bubba brigades bs is their home. As Malcolm Nance's book title says - "They Want to Kill Americans".

 

Tarzanrock

(1,250 posts)
8. Agreed.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:08 AM
Jul 2025

People don't spend tens of thousands of dollars on automatic military weapons, ammunition, military style clothing and body armor for sport just to go 'hunting' for 'game.' All these wannabe 'G.I. Joes' want to 'play' with their toys in real time!

malthaussen

(18,399 posts)
17. Sp long as nobody is shooting back.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:04 AM
Jul 2025

Let's put a fine point on it: these Sofa Seals want to kill something, period.

-- Mal

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
46. My fantasy
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:41 PM
Jul 2025

is, instead of loading up and deporting mexicans, all of these Trumphumping wanna bees, all decked out in full Military Garb and weapons,, should be airlifted to some war zone, and be forced to put on a parachute, and be dropped into the real "shit".........and watch them cry....... Russian controlled areas of Ukraine would be the best area to drop them into.......

malthaussen

(18,399 posts)
18. They want to kill their neighbors.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:06 AM
Jul 2025

In my experience, all this "small town hospitality" noise is just bullshit. People in small towns are haters of everything.

-- Mal

malthaussen

(18,399 posts)
61. Doesn't matter. They are the visible ones, and the rest don't restrain them.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 04:20 AM
Jul 2025

This is always the difficulty with variations on the "one bad apple" slogan. For one thing, people seem to forget that the "one bad apple" spoils the barrel, the barrel is not just fine except for the bad ones. While one can hardly accuse people of personal failure for being unable to rein in the assholes, it is definitely a failure of the culture which creates them, and culture is created by people. We don't, unfortunately, have complete control of our culture, but it is curious how some seem more amenable to distortion and mis-appropriation than others.

-- Mal

ms liberty

(10,956 posts)
64. So you're personally insulting me for being unable to control my neighbors
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 08:13 AM
Jul 2025

Last edited Mon Jul 7, 2025, 11:10 AM - Edit history (1)

Your comment sounds like one from someone who has never lived in a rural county. I live in a county of 36k in a 260 Sq mile tract of mostly forested or field/pasture land and nearly 100 open, operating churches. No cities. Most of that 36k became Republicans after the ballot stuffing scandal that ruined the party in this county, and they never came back.
So you tell me how I personally - or any one person in a rural county - should be able to "fix" about 32k people that we mostly don't know. They don't show that face out in public. It's very rare to have a discussion with someone about this because here in the South,
TALKING ABOUT POLITICS AND RELIGION TO PEOPLE YOU ARE NOT CLOSE TO OR DON'T KNOW IS CONSIDERED RUDE, ILL MANNERED AND INCIVIL. It's a fine way to get shunned and uninvited to anything.

malthaussen

(18,399 posts)
65. Nope. I'm criticizing the culture of your region.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 06:13 AM
Jul 2025

Which, as you have just explained, makes it impossible for individuals to effect change.

There wasn't a personal comment in the post.

-- Mal

QED

(3,267 posts)
57. How will they identify which Americans to harm?
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:55 PM
Jul 2025

Will they look at voter rolls to see who identifies as a democrat? Just something I've thought about, briefly.

malthaussen

(18,399 posts)
63. Nah. You don't get it.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 04:26 AM
Jul 2025

They'll kill 'em all and let god sort them out. You see, the only thing Republican politicians hate more than Democrats is their own constituents. They hate being beholden to them for their votes, and would love to create a society where they remain in power, and can kill all the insects and animals they used to put them there. The massive cuts to Federal spending in the latest legislation, which will go a long way to starting the process of killing off people in the Red districts, should be proof enough of that.

Don't be deluded into thinking that Representatives and Senators in any way identify or have any sympathy for the people who constitute their base. They think they're suckers and losers, and they're not wrong.

-- Mal

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
9. My gods, Bo, please stay safe. Thx for letting us know -- you'll be in our hearts. 🌺❤️
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:15 AM
Jul 2025

NJCher

(42,459 posts)
15. Do I understand this correctly?
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:54 AM
Jul 2025

There are explosions going on within 3 miles. Gunfire, too, which you say is normal for the 4th.

Two firefighters were recently ambushed and killed.

Numerous people show up wearing nutcase regalia and carrying weapons.

They want to come up to the lookout which we have seen before from pics. You are the only person there.

If I understand correctly, this would be the only sane response.

malthaussen

(18,399 posts)
16. Man, it's enough to make one want to return to civilization.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:02 AM
Jul 2025

But I don't know if we're going to have any of that for a few years at best.

Pretty noisy 4th here this year. Lots of boom-booms. Last year, virtually nada.

I was about to say I bet you wish you had a dog with you, but somebody would probably shoot it.

-- Mal

defacto7

(14,160 posts)
36. I'm open to your argument
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:43 AM
Jul 2025

but I'm trying to imagine what scenario would being armed have saved him from harm? He reasoned his way out of it successfully. Had they tried to storm the tower he may have taken a couple of them out before he died but he'd still be dead. If he wasn't armed he may have been killed or not. He may have been able to out think or out maneuver them. It doesn't sound like they would have run away if shot at or threatened. They were heavily armed maybe with explosives and likely reeling for a fight. He was in a hell of a situation for sure, but being armed only seems like it would have been a death trap. He needs some other deterrent to keep them and their vehicles away and I don't know what that would be. He's just in a bad situation. It's anti-government, civil war, guerrilla warfare footing.

mainer

(12,501 posts)
40. The attackers would think twice if they drew return fire
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:21 AM
Jul 2025

It doesn't mean he could successfully fight them off if they persisted. But a few return shots might make them back down, and give him enough time to call for help.

Wounded Bear

(63,828 posts)
24. Can't blame you for being a bit paranoid...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:44 AM
Jul 2025

You are in an exposed position out of range of immediate help.

Best of luck going forward.

Kid Berwyn

(22,890 posts)
25. Michigan Militia Grown Nationwide
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:54 AM
Jul 2025

They can’t wait to use all their stuff for real in the big round-up. Thank you for standing up to them, DT.

Oliver North had planned to enlist the Michigan Militia and its counterparts nationwide to assist the federal authorities in rounding up “illegal aliens” and their citizen supporters in the event of protests against U.S. military interventions in Central America. When Rep. Jack Brooks of Texas asked North about it during the special House-Senate Iran-Contra hearings (and suspension of the Constitution), he was asked to table it for a closed session by Sen. Dan Inouye. Wish the national press corp had followed the REX-84/Readiness Exercise 1984 story, instead of burying it for Poppy and his treasonous crew.

Video and links for future history:

https://court.rchp.com/black-concentration-camps/

niyad

(129,517 posts)
27. You are NOT being paranoid. You are taking sensible precautions
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:08 AM
Jul 2025

in the face of an increasingly dangerous reality. Do everything you can to stay safe and protect yourself. And please, for all of us here who love and worry for you, check in as often as you can.

calimary

(89,034 posts)
53. This DEFINITELY!!!
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:15 PM
Jul 2025

Last edited Sat Jul 5, 2025, 07:33 PM - Edit history (1)

It sounds to me like you’re being smart and sensible.

Ilsa

(63,816 posts)
37. Semtex? How? I mean, is someone in
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:14 AM
Jul 2025

the military supplying it, telling them to go practice with it? Or would they be acquiring it solely on their own? Is an organized group getting it? Does anyone have any ideas?

Please be safe, Bo Z.

pandr32

(13,767 posts)
38. Once upon a time our law enforcement agencies treated people like that...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:53 AM
Jul 2025

as home grown terrorists. Now they are recruited.

ancianita

(42,844 posts)
39. I hope your badassery continues to keep you safe.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:04 AM
Jul 2025

If you can get any backup (whether LEO or armed friends) please keep them nearby.
God bless you for your work.

dlk

(13,111 posts)
43. Given the current state of emboldened domestic terrorists
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:35 PM
Jul 2025

In the interest of safety, you should probably stay on permanent lockdown for for the foreseeable future

Response to Bo Zarts (Original post)

JoetheShow

(155 posts)
49. Regarding your last two sentences, an old joke: Just Because You're Paranoid Doesn't Mean They're Not Out to Get You.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:39 PM
Jul 2025

Stay safe.

democrank

(12,125 posts)
54. I respect your solid preparation and your measured responses.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:37 PM
Jul 2025

Stay safe and remember we’re here for you.

k55f5r

(505 posts)
58. Funny she said send Semtex.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 07:30 PM
Jul 2025

+4
"In the US, C-4 is significantly more available than Semtex. C-4 is a plastic explosive primarily manufactured in the US for military use. While Semtex is also a plastic explosive, it is not produced in the US and is more commonly associated with international terrorist organizations, "
I've never seen it in the US. I've read about it in books and seen it in movies. I've worked construction around Dynamite, and prill, but never plastique.

bluescribbler

(2,476 posts)
59. Just because you're paranoid...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:37 PM
Jul 2025

Doesn't mean they're not out to get you. Stay safe my friend.

 

TnDem

(1,390 posts)
60. Probably meant
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:49 PM
Jul 2025

Tannerite... It is common on many YouTube explosion videos and is legal, but has to be mixed and then can be detonated.

For shits and giggles, go to YouTube and type in "Tannerite goes wrong", and you'll see Darwin in full swing.

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