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(9,754 posts)speak easy
(12,595 posts)he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket.
Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you. "
It's not about economics.
biocube
(173 posts)Identity politics isn't working.
speak easy
(12,595 posts)It's about class.
LilElf70
(1,384 posts)Why isn't this posted everywhere? Viral?
I have to agree with Bernie, AGAIN!
He is always spot on.
Magoo48
(6,691 posts)bluescribbler
(2,477 posts)You can't transform the Democratic Party from outside the Party.
LSparkle
(12,122 posts)Dems began sucking up to Big Business big time in the 90s (DLC) and I can understand why Bernie has stayed an Independent. I admire that he stood behind Bidens attempts to return the party to its more liberal roots.
rubbersole
(10,993 posts)'90s Telecommunications Act, GATT - General Agreement on Taritts and Trade (became the WTO) and corporate attorney/SC chief justice John Roberts' epitaph Citizens United ruling destroyed the democratic framework our founding fathers envisioned/ handed to us. Getting it back, against unlimited money, is the test we face. This bbb abomination is the alarm bells going off.
Arazi
(8,709 posts)With Dems like David Hogg trying to propose out-of-the-box ideas to strengthen the party, and getting told to get out and shut the fuck up.
I remember AOC receiving enormous hostility when she first came into the party, with her new ideas and fresh approach.
Mamdani as the Democratic Party mayoral candidate is currently getting smeared by party leaders for his own proposals.
The Dem establishment is very resistant to change imo. There are plenty of examples why Bernie might find it more effective staying in his current outsider position, just sayin
rubbersole
(10,993 posts)Time has proven him on point and even the skeptics can't argue his facts. The 1% are abandoning the 99% and robbing the country on the way out the door. Government was the only stopgap against this. They bought it.
lostincalifornia
(4,919 posts)betsuni
(28,742 posts)a kennedy
(35,346 posts)rubbersole
(10,993 posts)Arazi
(8,709 posts)We fielded two of the strongest women candidates in history and they lost.
We cant afford to lose in 2028.
mcar
(45,692 posts)We should be addressing the sexism in this party rather than capitulating to it.
lostincalifornia
(4,919 posts)Fullduplexxx
(8,604 posts)In the late 90's
W_HAMILTON
(10,092 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:07 AM - Edit history (1)
Furthermore, if the Democratic Party are all of those insults you claim, Mr. Sanders, why do you caucus with them and why do the vast, vast, vast, VAST majority of them vote exactly the same way you do almost every vote? Are you also a billionaire-funded, consultant-driven politician?
biocube
(173 posts)centrism loses races.
Reid Hoffman and Mark Cuban drove Kamala's campaign in the wrong direction.
W_HAMILTON
(10,092 posts)And Kamala ran on an even more progressive platform than Biden, which was even more progressive than Hillary's.
biocube
(173 posts)It needs to be *economically* progressive.
Minimum wage referendums are winning even in deep red states like Nebraska and Missouri. It's just crazy to think Dems lose for being too far left on economics.
W_HAMILTON
(10,092 posts)Democrats have been for universal healthcare for some time now, which doesn't have to just be achieved through Medicare for All.
As for your other issues, from the 2024 Democratic Party platform:
paid family leave
comprehensive paid leave program in legislation that ultimately became the Inflation
Reduction Act. He instructed federal agencies to expand access to paid and unpaid leave for
federal employees. He expanded the Military Parental Leave Program, so all active-duty,
new-parent servicemembers can take 12 weeks. And his budget includes the strongest paid
leave proposals in history, permanently funding the national paid leave plan that America
needs.
That plan will create Americas first, full, national paid family and medical leave program,
guaranteeing every American worker up to 12 weeks of paid time off to care for a new child
or loved one to recover from an illness, in cases of domestic violence, or military
deployment. It will help families care for one another, and it will help businesses retain
valuable talent and small businesses to compete. Millions more parents will be able to work,
and it will add hundreds of billions to our economy. Democrats have pushed for this for
decades. Its past time that America caught up with the rest of the world.
affordable college
businesses, and labor unions to prepare students for good jobs in high-skill, high-wage, and
in-demand industries. Itll make trade school and community college free for every
American. And its making record investments in registered apprenticeships which already
train more than one million Americans a year across industries, including cutting-edge
industries. Some 90 percent of them stay on as full hires, earning an average starting salary
of $80,000 a year. Thats a path to the middle class that families can count on.
A majority of college students graduate with student debt. It can be an overwhelming stress,
as snowballing interest follows folks for decades, defining the choices they make and the
jobs they take, and holding back our entire economy. Although Republican appointees on
the Supreme Court blocked the President's initial student debt relief plan for 40 million
borrowers, he has not stopped using every available tool to provide relief. His Administration
already approved the cancellation of $167 billion in loans for nearly 5 million borrowers,
including nearly a million public servants like teachers, nurses, and police; and it has outlined
plans to deliver relief to 30 million borrowers in all. Meanwhile, its new SAVE plan is the most
affordable student-loan repayment plan in history, helping 8 million Americans including
more than 4.5 million who now have a $0 monthly payment. These savings will transform
lives, freeing people to buy a house, to start a family, or to launch a business with new hope.
For young people just heading to college now, weve already secured the largest increase in
Pell Grants in a decade, and well further expand these grants to 7 million more students, and
double the maximum award by 2029. Weve invested a record $16 billion in Historically Black
Colleges and Universities (HBCUs); and were working to subsidize tuition at all Minority
Serving Institutions for anyone whose family earns less than $125,000 a year.
Taken from: https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/FINAL-MASTER-PLATFORM.pdf
Sorry you got duped by Republican, Russian, and anti-Democratic rightwing enablers like Jill Stein into thinking that Democrats weren't offering those things to begin with.
questionseverything
(11,586 posts)sheshe2
(95,994 posts)++++++++++++++++1000!
Tesha
(21,102 posts)Thats whats needed - and now!
Fl_life
(7 posts)Question though seeing this IS the direction we need to move to, considering Bernie is describing the ..other..party perfectly, what then have WE been supporting for the past 20+ years if we need to change???
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)* it's simply not true. This serves no useful purpose.
lapucelle
(20,950 posts)Anyone who knows our history or who has read our Party platforms should know this.
I do agree with Sanders that there is a problem with some of the youngish, often white, often male trust fund podcasters and youngish, wealthy, often white, often male media personalities. They do as much to drive the anti-Democratic Party narrative as some Republicans.
lostincalifornia
(4,919 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(175,168 posts)I was a Clinton delegate to the 2016 convention and have some strong views on this
W_HAMILTON
(10,092 posts)He shut it down temporarily before the 2020 Democratic Primary so that he wouldn't get criticism for funneling campaign funds to his family members that worked there, but then he restarted it up shortly after he lost, funded by hundreds of thousands of dollars from his failed presidential campaign that his small-dollar, grassroots donors had sent to him, presumably, in part, to overcome the consultant class.
Oh, the irony.
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vanessa_ca
(616 posts)I read your post as I was listening to this video. It dovetails nicely with Bernie's message and I guarantee you this is representative of what everyone I know feels. Ignore it at the party's own peril.
thought crime
(1,245 posts)Health, Housing, Education, Climate, Infrastructure.
JI7
(93,243 posts)He thinks Cuomo should be the nominee based on that since Cuomo voters were more diverse and Cuomo got the lower income and working class votes.
lostincalifornia
(4,919 posts)VP Harris for losing the 2024 election.
This divisive bullshit is really getting tiresome.
