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Bernie (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jul 2025 OP
Agree. Nt TheFarseer Jul 2025 #1
LBJ: "If you can convince the lowest white man speak easy Jul 2025 #2
Democrats keep losing their share of the minority vote biocube Jul 2025 #12
Democrats keep gaining their share of college educated whites. speak easy Jul 2025 #15
My question is LilElf70 Jul 2025 #3
Simply put, right on point, Magoo48 Jul 2025 #4
Somebody should tell Bernie... bluescribbler Jul 2025 #5
Maybe he'd join if we went back to FDR style policies LSparkle Jul 2025 #8
The DLC let the Wall Street camel's nose under the tent. rubbersole Jul 2025 #19
We're literally in the middle of a party intra-fight Arazi Jul 2025 #14
Bernie's message has never changed. rubbersole Jul 2025 #21
Speaking of consultants, I wonder what Tad Devine is doing lately. (sarcasm) lostincalifornia Jul 2025 #6
As chief strategist he was paid five million! betsuni Jul 2025 #36
You da man Bernie.......now find us a candidate we can ALL get behind!!!! a kennedy Jul 2025 #7
Kamala. With paper ballots. rubbersole Jul 2025 #22
Not happening. Women can't win the presidency in the US (yet) Arazi Jul 2025 #26
Oh bollocks on this self-fulfilling prophecy mcar Jul 2025 #40
What a complete distortion of facts. lostincalifornia Jul 2025 #9
Excpt historically dems in general didnt/dont donate which drove the party to the right Fullduplexxx Jul 2025 #10
This sort of bullshit is why we lost in 2016, 2024, and have such poor polling numbers now. W_HAMILTON Jul 2025 #11
2016 and 2024 just showed that week-kneed corporate biocube Jul 2025 #18
Hillary ran on """the most progressive platform in party history" -- Sanders's words, not mine. W_HAMILTON Jul 2025 #20
I missed where both of them ran on medicare for all, paid family leave, and affordable college biocube Jul 2025 #25
Indeed you did miss it. W_HAMILTON Jul 2025 #29
Democrats have been for universal insurance that's not the same as universal healthcare questionseverything Jul 2025 #37
Dayum! sheshe2 Jul 2025 #38
"Of the People" Tesha Jul 2025 #13
Great points! Fl_life Jul 2025 #16
Please stop. Things like this only amplify the false "both-parties-are-the-same" rhetoric, and * Oopsie Daisy Jul 2025 #17
The Democratic Party already is a multi-generational, multi-racial, working class party. lapucelle Jul 2025 #24
Well said. lostincalifornia Jul 2025 #34
I agree LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2025 #30
Will Sanders shut down The Sanders Institute, his own family-founded consultant business? W_HAMILTON Jul 2025 #23
Post removed Post removed Jul 2025 #27
He's absolutely right. vanessa_ca Jul 2025 #28
YES. We need to focus on economics and more on cooperation vs competition. thought crime Jul 2025 #31
So he has a problem with Mamdani's win ? JI7 Jul 2025 #32
UUMM Omaha Steve Jul 2025 #33
More divisive rehtoric. Same misrepresentation that contributed to 2016. A week or so ago he was blaming lostincalifornia Jul 2025 #35
Rinse. Lather. Repeat. sheshe2 Jul 2025 #39

speak easy

(12,595 posts)
2. LBJ: "If you can convince the lowest white man
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:47 AM
Jul 2025

he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket.

Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you. "

It's not about economics.

LilElf70

(1,384 posts)
3. My question is
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 07:10 AM
Jul 2025

Why isn't this posted everywhere? Viral?

I have to agree with Bernie, AGAIN!

He is always spot on.

LSparkle

(12,122 posts)
8. Maybe he'd join if we went back to FDR style policies
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:20 AM
Jul 2025

Dems began sucking up to Big Business big time in the 90s (DLC) and I can understand why Bernie has stayed an Independent. I admire that he stood behind Biden’s attempts to return the party to its more liberal roots.

rubbersole

(10,993 posts)
19. The DLC let the Wall Street camel's nose under the tent.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:56 AM
Jul 2025

'90s Telecommunications Act, GATT - General Agreement on Taritts and Trade (became the WTO) and corporate attorney/SC chief justice John Roberts' epitaph Citizens United ruling destroyed the democratic framework our founding fathers envisioned/ handed to us. Getting it back, against unlimited money, is the test we face. This bbb abomination is the alarm bells going off.

Arazi

(8,709 posts)
14. We're literally in the middle of a party intra-fight
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:35 AM
Jul 2025

With Dems like David Hogg trying to propose out-of-the-box ideas to strengthen the party, and getting told to get out and shut the fuck up.

I remember AOC receiving enormous hostility when she first came into the party, with her new ideas and fresh approach.

Mamdani as the Democratic Party mayoral candidate is currently getting smeared by party leaders for his own proposals.

The Dem establishment is very resistant to change imo. There are plenty of examples why Bernie might find it more effective staying in his current outsider position, just sayin’

rubbersole

(10,993 posts)
21. Bernie's message has never changed.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:09 AM
Jul 2025

Time has proven him on point and even the skeptics can't argue his facts. The 1% are abandoning the 99% and robbing the country on the way out the door. Government was the only stopgap against this. They bought it.

Arazi

(8,709 posts)
26. Not happening. Women can't win the presidency in the US (yet)
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:54 AM
Jul 2025

We fielded two of the strongest women candidates in history and they lost.

We can’t afford to lose in 2028.

mcar

(45,692 posts)
40. Oh bollocks on this self-fulfilling prophecy
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 01:56 PM
Jul 2025

We should be addressing the sexism in this party rather than capitulating to it.

Fullduplexxx

(8,604 posts)
10. Excpt historically dems in general didnt/dont donate which drove the party to the right
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:24 AM
Jul 2025

In the late 90's

W_HAMILTON

(10,092 posts)
11. This sort of bullshit is why we lost in 2016, 2024, and have such poor polling numbers now.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:26 AM
Jul 2025

Last edited Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:07 AM - Edit history (1)

Furthermore, if the Democratic Party are all of those insults you claim, Mr. Sanders, why do you caucus with them and why do the vast, vast, vast, VAST majority of them vote exactly the same way you do almost every vote? Are you also a billionaire-funded, consultant-driven politician?

biocube

(173 posts)
18. 2016 and 2024 just showed that week-kneed corporate
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:53 AM
Jul 2025

centrism loses races.

Reid Hoffman and Mark Cuban drove Kamala's campaign in the wrong direction.

W_HAMILTON

(10,092 posts)
20. Hillary ran on """the most progressive platform in party history" -- Sanders's words, not mine.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:59 AM
Jul 2025

And Kamala ran on an even more progressive platform than Biden, which was even more progressive than Hillary's.

biocube

(173 posts)
25. I missed where both of them ran on medicare for all, paid family leave, and affordable college
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:51 AM
Jul 2025

It needs to be *economically* progressive.

Minimum wage referendums are winning even in deep red states like Nebraska and Missouri. It's just crazy to think Dems lose for being too far left on economics.

W_HAMILTON

(10,092 posts)
29. Indeed you did miss it.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:28 AM
Jul 2025

Democrats have been for universal healthcare for some time now, which doesn't have to just be achieved through Medicare for All.

As for your other issues, from the 2024 Democratic Party platform:

paid family leave

From Day One, President Biden has pushed to do more. He fought to include a
comprehensive paid leave program in legislation that ultimately became the Inflation
Reduction Act. He instructed federal agencies to expand access to paid and unpaid leave for
federal employees. He expanded the Military Parental Leave Program, so all active-duty,
new-parent servicemembers can take 12 weeks. And his budget includes the strongest paid
leave proposals in history, permanently funding the national paid leave plan that America
needs.

That plan will create America’s first, full, national paid family and medical leave program,
guaranteeing every American worker up to 12 weeks of paid time off to care for a new child
or loved one to recover from an illness, in cases of domestic violence, or military
deployment. It will help families care for one another, and it will help businesses retain
valuable talent and small businesses to compete. Millions more parents will be able to work,
and it will add hundreds of billions to our economy. Democrats have pushed for this for
decades. It’s past time that America caught up with the rest of the world.


affordable college

The Administration is expanding job training partnerships that connect high schools, local
businesses, and labor unions to prepare students for good jobs in high-skill, high-wage, and
in-demand industries. It’ll make trade school and community college free for every
American. And it’s making record investments in registered apprenticeships – which already
train more than one million Americans a year across industries, including cutting-edge
industries. Some 90 percent of them stay on as full hires, earning an average starting salary
of $80,000 a year. That’s a path to the middle class that families can count on.

A majority of college students graduate with student debt. It can be an overwhelming stress,
as snowballing interest follows folks for decades, defining the choices they make and the
jobs they take, and holding back our entire economy. Although Republican appointees on
the Supreme Court blocked the President's initial student debt relief plan for 40 million
borrowers, he has not stopped using every available tool to provide relief. His Administration
already approved the cancellation of $167 billion in loans for nearly 5 million borrowers,
including nearly a million public servants like teachers, nurses, and police; and it has outlined
plans to deliver relief to 30 million borrowers in all. Meanwhile, its new SAVE plan is the most
affordable student-loan repayment plan in history, helping 8 million Americans – including
more than 4.5 million who now have a $0 monthly payment. These savings will transform
lives, freeing people to buy a house, to start a family, or to launch a business with new hope.

For young people just heading to college now, we’ve already secured the largest increase in
Pell Grants in a decade, and we’ll further expand these grants to 7 million more students, and
double the maximum award by 2029. We’ve invested a record $16 billion in Historically Black
Colleges and Universities (HBCUs); and we’re working to subsidize tuition at all Minority
Serving Institutions for anyone whose family earns less than $125,000 a year.


Taken from: https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/FINAL-MASTER-PLATFORM.pdf

Sorry you got duped by Republican, Russian, and anti-Democratic rightwing enablers like Jill Stein into thinking that Democrats weren't offering those things to begin with.

Fl_life

(7 posts)
16. Great points!
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:39 AM
Jul 2025

Question though seeing this IS the direction we need to move to, considering Bernie is describing the ..other..party perfectly, what then have WE been supporting for the past 20+ years if we need to change???

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
17. Please stop. Things like this only amplify the false "both-parties-are-the-same" rhetoric, and *
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:52 AM
Jul 2025

* it's simply not true. This serves no useful purpose.

lapucelle

(20,950 posts)
24. The Democratic Party already is a multi-generational, multi-racial, working class party.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:31 AM
Jul 2025

Anyone who knows our history or who has read our Party platforms should know this.

I do agree with Sanders that there is a problem with some of the youngish, often white, often male trust fund podcasters and youngish, wealthy, often white, often male media personalities. They do as much to drive the anti-Democratic Party narrative as some Republicans.

W_HAMILTON

(10,092 posts)
23. Will Sanders shut down The Sanders Institute, his own family-founded consultant business?
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:12 AM
Jul 2025

He shut it down temporarily before the 2020 Democratic Primary so that he wouldn't get criticism for funneling campaign funds to his family members that worked there, but then he restarted it up shortly after he lost, funded by hundreds of thousands of dollars from his failed presidential campaign that his small-dollar, grassroots donors had sent to him, presumably, in part, to overcome the consultant class.

Oh, the irony.

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

vanessa_ca

(616 posts)
28. He's absolutely right.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:04 AM
Jul 2025

I read your post as I was listening to this video. It dovetails nicely with Bernie's message and I guarantee you this is representative of what everyone I know feels. Ignore it at the party's own peril.

thought crime

(1,245 posts)
31. YES. We need to focus on economics and more on cooperation vs competition.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:10 AM
Jul 2025

Health, Housing, Education, Climate, Infrastructure.

JI7

(93,243 posts)
32. So he has a problem with Mamdani's win ?
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:14 AM
Jul 2025

He thinks Cuomo should be the nominee based on that since Cuomo voters were more diverse and Cuomo got the lower income and working class votes.

lostincalifornia

(4,919 posts)
35. More divisive rehtoric. Same misrepresentation that contributed to 2016. A week or so ago he was blaming
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:01 PM
Jul 2025

VP Harris for losing the 2024 election.

This divisive bullshit is really getting tiresome.

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