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22yo woman found clinging to a tree 20 miles from her campsite (Original Post) Renew Deal Jul 5 OP
Kick dalton99a Jul 5 #1
I watched this last night MagickMuffin Jul 5 #2
Wonderful malaise Jul 5 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 5 #8
Because she's alive malaise Jul 5 #10
Why is your very first DU post questioning why it was wonderful Tanuki Jul 5 #12
It's our permatroll library girl NewHendoLib Jul 5 #17
That took a bit longer than usual. niyad Jul 5 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 5 #19
What flavour pizza do you like? niyad Jul 5 #15
My daughter moved to Texas, several years ago Linda ladeewolf Jul 5 #4
Most of the time the floods happen in specific locations. Igel Jul 5 #24
It's climate change and lack of resources now. ananda Jul 5 #33
Excellent straight-forward reporting by the lady from KENS-5. erronis Jul 5 #5
I agree. llmart Jul 5 #9
Don Henley wrote a song about 40+ years ago. electricmonk Jul 5 #16
Same here and the banter is never amusing, funny or charming. It's just trite and tiresome. Further, those doing the MLAA Jul 5 #21
I catch the weather report and then turn it off. llmart Jul 5 #22
THIS malaise Jul 5 #14
I came to say this. Extremely professional and informative. Lucky Luciano Jul 5 #25
I find local reporters way more professional malaise Jul 5 #27
I was thinking along those lines, too NJCher Jul 5 #28
It's almost like she's a real journalist. Lucky Luciano Jul 5 #32
That was bdamomma Jul 5 #34
That is an amazing story. Nt Grumpy Old Guy Jul 5 #6
20 miles downstream means she was swept along in the floodwaters for RockRaven Jul 5 #7
Amazing berniesandersmittens Jul 5 #11
True that, and I really hope her family is still alive. BComplex Jul 5 #30
Watched a video a bit ago of the river berniesandersmittens Jul 5 #31
Holy expletives. twodogsbarking Jul 5 #13
not to mention NJCher Jul 5 #29
Where we live in Virginia this brings back memories of Hurricane Camille that killed 135 people in Nelson, County in Martin68 Jul 5 #18
I remember reading a few books on that storm ITAL Jul 6 #36
Great synopsis stollen Jul 6 #37
I wondered why she was not taken to the hospital, but wondered if the ER's are niyad Jul 5 #20
Rescuers got her to a safe place, then went out to save others Attilatheblond Jul 6 #35
Texas Officials are blaming trump for the loss of life due to these floods LetMyPeopleVote Jul 5 #26
NYT-As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas (gift links) LetMyPeopleVote Jul 6 #38

MagickMuffin

(17,811 posts)
2. I watched this last night
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:14 PM
Jul 5



Thankfully the homeowners heard her screams for help. The flood had ripped her clothes off. No telling what happened to the rest of her family.


Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Tanuki

(15,936 posts)
12. Why is your very first DU post questioning why it was wonderful
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:02 PM
Jul 5

that a young woman was rescued from a catastrophic flood? I would think we would all find her survival to be very good news.

Response to Tanuki (Reply #12)

Linda ladeewolf

(966 posts)
4. My daughter moved to Texas, several years ago
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:24 PM
Jul 5

She didn’t like Californias earthquakes, Missouri’s tornados. I guess Texas floods are okay.

Igel

(36,966 posts)
24. Most of the time the floods happen in specific locations.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:14 PM
Jul 5

In Houston, certain neighborhoods flood but people don't drown. Underpasses are marked. And if there's a major storm, well, most of the bayous and creeks have flood zone clearances (if built up fairly recently) or notices. Avoid where it floods, not a problem.

Even Harvey was exceptional in the extent of the flooding, which pretty much just extended the usual flood zones much farther than expected. A lot of the city didn't flood at all. On my street the water didn't get over the 3-4" cement slope they call a "curb", much less up to the house or into it. Read the topo maps and you're safe.

Kerville and points west along the Guadalupe are known flood zones. Drained by a single river, a lot of the soil is underlain with limestone, which means no drainage. Even the Guadalupe has limestone for a lot of its course. (Somebody called the soil in the area 'caliche soil', which strikes me as wrong for the hill country--this is ancient limestone, not caliche, a heavily mineralized subsurface layer like you get in the Sonoran Desert due to rain dissolving minerals from the upper soil but the rain only soaks in a certain amount, year after year, for millennia ... The hill country's limestone will be karst in a million years.)

I might like visiting the area but if I camped there and I knew there was a chance of thunderstorms I'd steer well clear of being unconscious anywhere near the river or major streams. Again, the topo map is your friend. (With the ENSO in neutral, last I checked, the summer's climate's fairly unpredictable--some years it's real drought, other years bland, other years fairly wet. This is a fairly bland year, but in TX in summer sky-water is like in Arizona--you get it in storm cells. The one over Hunt County/Kerville stalled. This was real bad.)

ananda

(32,587 posts)
33. It's climate change and lack of resources now.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:44 PM
Jul 5

The flooding in Texas was mostly due to hurricanes
and tropical storms.

Now it's potential is everywhere, the same as the
potential for drought... which I fear even more.

erronis

(20,612 posts)
5. Excellent straight-forward reporting by the lady from KENS-5.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:40 PM
Jul 5

This is the way news should be reported.

llmart

(16,640 posts)
9. I agree.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:49 PM
Jul 5

This reporter was terrific. Very informative. Wish we had more of her on our local news. All I ever see is giggling and low cut clingy dresses on the women, and that's not only Fox. The men try to be cutesy and funny too. It doesn't go over well when the next news item after all the ha ha hee hee stuff is serious.

Anyway, this young woman that was saved is going to have one hell of a story to tell for the rest of her life. I sure hope she doesn't get bad news about the rest of her family.

electricmonk

(2,011 posts)
16. Don Henley wrote a song about 40+ years ago.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:19 PM
Jul 5

We got the bubble-headed bleached-blonde, comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye
It's interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry

MLAA

(19,348 posts)
21. Same here and the banter is never amusing, funny or charming. It's just trite and tiresome. Further, those doing the
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:03 PM
Jul 5

bantering don’t have chemistry. I wish this reporter worked at a local station where I live. 🙂

llmart

(16,640 posts)
22. I catch the weather report and then turn it off.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:13 PM
Jul 5

When did it become a plus to have four different "reporters" all talking over one another and laughing about something one of the other of them did or saw or whatever? It's chaotic and ridiculous.

One story this morning was all about how everyone needs to start their Christmas shopping right now because toys are going to cost three times as much once tariffs kick in. They followed up with their comments about what sorts of things kids might want for Christmas. It's July and they are pushing the conspicuous consumption early.

malaise

(286,632 posts)
27. I find local reporters way more professional
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:08 PM
Jul 5

than the sensationalists on some of the cable channels

NJCher

(40,701 posts)
28. I was thinking along those lines, too
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:11 PM
Jul 5

At one point I said, "Holy smokes, she's telling me everything I want and need to know."

What's wrong with this picture?

RockRaven

(17,625 posts)
7. 20 miles downstream means she was swept along in the floodwaters for
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:47 PM
Jul 5
over two hours (the numbers I've seen for flash flood speeds range from 6-12 mph, 9 or 10 being the most common) before snagging that tree.

Two hours is a LONG time to be struggling to keep your head up, to grab onto something to get out, to avoid being crushed or trapped, etc.

Impressive.

berniesandersmittens

(12,191 posts)
11. Amazing
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:00 PM
Jul 5

Panic and exhaustion would've overtaken most people. 20 miles. Wow.

It's so sad that she was left to recover at the house and not taken in to be treated for at least shock. But she has her life and that's a miracle thanks to her will and the man who came to her rescue.

BComplex

(9,491 posts)
30. True that, and I really hope her family is still alive.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:17 PM
Jul 5

I have to say, it doesn't sound too good, but you never know.

berniesandersmittens

(12,191 posts)
31. Watched a video a bit ago of the river
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:31 PM
Jul 5

It's posted as an OP in GD.

Whole houses swept away. One house was full of people who you can see going downstream .

People still in their cars being swept down with bystanders yelling for them to get out.

Even experienced swimmers would have a nearly impossible chance of serving that.

This girl who made it is an absolute miracle. You're right about the slim chances of her family having made it out.

And she had to be left behind so rescuers could continue search and rescue.

I cannot begin to imagine how apocalyptic it must feel for these people.





NJCher

(40,701 posts)
29. not to mention
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:11 PM
Jul 5

dodging floating refrigerators.

on edit: orangecrush posted this video of what it was like:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220462166

She must have been on an adrenaline high to be able to pull this off.

Martin68

(26,148 posts)
18. Where we live in Virginia this brings back memories of Hurricane Camille that killed 135 people in Nelson, County in
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:49 PM
Jul 5

1969. The Hurricane caused catastrophic flooding after dark, but some people managed to survive when they grabbed onto tree tops as they were carried away by the current.

ITAL

(1,116 posts)
36. I remember reading a few books on that storm
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 10:10 AM
Jul 6

I was really obsessed with hurricanes as when I was younger (I kinda still am to be fair) and knew tons about all the big ones.

Camille was a tremendously powerful Category 5 storm (they didn't have categories until after her actually , but that's what she'd have been on the scale), but by the time she got to Virginia she was just a rain storm. However, the Low pressure system that was her remnant interacted with two other systems and the mountains of VA which lifted her clouds up. Camille didn't just rain, she wrung out all the moisture she had within just a few hours. Survivors told of having to cup their hands over their mouth to even breath, the water was coming down so hard one had to keep from inhaling water. The tales of the survivors were almost unbelievable when they described the amount of water that was falling. Birds actually drowned in the air because they couldn't breathe. Many areas reported over 20 inches of rain in less than six hours. One town officially got 27 inches in three. Unofficially the figures were even higher, perhaps north of 40 inches...all within a period of time of two to five hours. Erosion on the mountains was described to be a thousand years worth in a single night and literally the sides of several of them fell off. It was unbelievable.

niyad

(125,219 posts)
20. I wondered why she was not taken to the hospital, but wondered if the ER's are
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:02 PM
Jul 5

overwhelmed at the moment, and she was assessed as not being in immediate danger.

Attilatheblond

(6,672 posts)
35. Rescuers got her to a safe place, then went out to save others
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:52 AM
Jul 6

Triage is a thing in emergency situations.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,374 posts)
26. Texas Officials are blaming trump for the loss of life due to these floods
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:52 PM
Jul 5

Thank G-d, this lady is safe but this should not have happened





LetMyPeopleVote

(166,374 posts)
38. NYT-As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas (gift links)
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 04:20 PM
Jul 6

Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials.

🚨 NYT: As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas

Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials.

Gift link:

MeidasTouch (@meidastouch.com) 2025-07-06T04:33:59.776Z



https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/us/politics/texas-floods-warnings-vacancies.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UU8.Zjkx.evidtrUYt_ZY&smid=tw-share

Crucial positions at the local offices of the National Weather Service were unfilled as severe rainfall inundated parts of Central Texas on Friday morning, prompting some experts to question whether staffing shortages made it harder for the forecasting agency to coordinate with local emergency managers as floodwaters rose.....

The staffing shortages suggested a separate problem, those former officials said — the loss of experienced people who would typically have helped communicate with local authorities in the hours after flash flood warnings were issued overnight.

The shortages are among the factors likely to be scrutinized as the death toll climbs from the floods. Separate questions have emerged about the preparedness of local communities, including Kerr County’s apparent lack of a local flood warning system. The county, roughly 50 miles northwest of San Antonio, is where many of the deaths occurred......

The National Weather Service’s San Angelo office, which is responsible for some of the areas hit hardest by Friday’s flooding, was missing a senior hydrologist, staff forecaster and meteorologist in charge, according to Tom Fahy, the legislative director for the National Weather Service Employees Organization, the union that represents Weather Service workers.

The Weather Service’s nearby San Antonio office, which covers other areas hit by the floods, also had significant vacancies, including a warning coordination meteorologist and science officer, Mr. Fahy said. Staff members in those positions are meant to work with local emergency managers to plan for floods, including when and how to warn local residents and help them evacuate.

That office’s warning coordination meteorologist left on April 30, after taking the early retirement package the Trump administration used to reduce the number of federal employees, according to a person with knowledge of his departure......

John Sokich, who until January was director of congressional affairs for the National Weather Service, said those unfilled positions made it harder to coordinate with local officials because each Weather Service office works as a team. “Reduced staffing puts that in jeopardy,” he said......

An equally important question, he added, was how the Weather Service was coordinating with local emergency managers to act on those warnings as they came in.

“You have to have a response mechanism that involves local officials,” Dr. Uccellini said. “It involves a relationship with the emergency management community, at every level.”

But that requires having staff members in those positions, he said......

Typically, Mr. Sokich said, the Weather Service will send an official to meet regularly with local emergency managers for what are called “tabletop operations” — planning ahead of time for what to do in case of a flash flood or other major weather disaster.

But the Trump administration’s pursuit of fewer staff members means remaining employees have less time to spend coordinating with local officials, he said.

I have been through a number of hurricanes/storms including Ike, Allison, Harvey and lately Berly. There were weather service people coordinating with local officials during all of these storms. Here the DOGE and trump cuts meant that the weather service did not have the staff available to coordinate with the local officials.
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