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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMaking sense of the weather that led to a horrible Texas flooding tragedy
https://theeyewall.substack.com/p/making-sense-of-the-weather-thatFlash flood warnings were issued for areas before midnight as radar rain totals began to inflate up and over 3 to 4 inches. A flash flood emergency was issued at 4 AM for the Kerrville storms and 4:15 AM for storms near San Angelo. Rain totals were estimated to be encroaching on 10 inches at that point. So there was warning. This NWS office is acutely aware of the threats to the area from flooding, and the history is there. So I am assuming they were timely warnings unless I hear otherwise.
Issuing the warning is half the process. Were the warnings received and acted on? That's another story. And that will also come out in the days ahead. More on that below.
Did budget cuts play a role?
No. In this particular case, we have seen absolutely nothing to suggest that current staffing or budget issues within NOAA and the NWS played any role at all in this event. Anyone using this event to claim that is being dishonest. There are many places you can go with expressing thoughts on the current and proposed cuts. We've been very vocal about them here. But this is not the right event for those takes.
In fact, weather balloon launches played a vital role in forecast messaging on Thursday night as the event was beginning to unfold. If you want to go that route, use this event as a symbol of the value NOAA and NWS bring to society, understanding that as horrific as this is, yes, it could always have been even worse.
Beyond the fact that this was truly a tragedy that is extremely difficult to disseminate warnings on, I think we need to focus our attention on how people in these types of locations receive warnings. This seems to be where the breakdown occurred.
Issuing the warning is half the process. Were the warnings received and acted on? That's another story. And that will also come out in the days ahead. More on that below.
Did budget cuts play a role?
No. In this particular case, we have seen absolutely nothing to suggest that current staffing or budget issues within NOAA and the NWS played any role at all in this event. Anyone using this event to claim that is being dishonest. There are many places you can go with expressing thoughts on the current and proposed cuts. We've been very vocal about them here. But this is not the right event for those takes.
In fact, weather balloon launches played a vital role in forecast messaging on Thursday night as the event was beginning to unfold. If you want to go that route, use this event as a symbol of the value NOAA and NWS bring to society, understanding that as horrific as this is, yes, it could always have been even worse.
Beyond the fact that this was truly a tragedy that is extremely difficult to disseminate warnings on, I think we need to focus our attention on how people in these types of locations receive warnings. This seems to be where the breakdown occurred.
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Making sense of the weather that led to a horrible Texas flooding tragedy (Original Post)
WhiskeyGrinder
Jul 2025
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niyad
(129,607 posts)1. Thank you for this. While it gave us excellent information, one could
wish that there were not so many grammatical mistakes. They were more than a bit irritating and distracting.
John1956PA
(4,833 posts)2. In some ways, it was a "perfect storm" for a horrendous tragedy.
The surge on the Guadalupe River occurred in the early hours of the morning.
Also, camping locations were filled, as usual, in the week of the July Fourth holiday.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,360 posts)3. kick
Demovictory9
(37,113 posts)4. kick
TheProle
(3,903 posts)5. Thank you. Kicked and rec'd