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IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 07:51 PM Jul 2025

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Who cares kwolf68 Jul 2025 #1
Does it matter? BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2025 #2
Why would this matter? Texasgal Jul 2025 #3
I never thought to ask that question sarisataka Jul 2025 #4
It is not unusual in a white supremacy to have a de facto "whites only" experience without it being de jure. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2025 #5
Their photo album is still available: dalton99a Jul 2025 #6
Use internet archive link IrishBubbaLiberal Jul 2025 #12
To be honest, I had the same thought as I do when there is a mass shooting. aeromanKC Jul 2025 #7
This was a storm. How did that apply here? Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #11
Some people play chess, some people play checkers. aeromanKC Jul 2025 #31
I still don't understand. Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #44
They are dead children. Who were swept away by a storm. Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #8
The past 3/4 century's history of christian schooling in the south is one of using religion RockRaven Jul 2025 #9
Yea, the term is Missing White Woman Syndrome taxi Jul 2025 #10
So true unfortunately IrishBubbaLiberal Jul 2025 #22
Logan Pearsall Smith said this: taxi Jul 2025 #28
If a dozen Hispanic children were swept away in a storm, do you really think it wouldn't be a story? Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #45
you cannot even be serious asking this.......... Takket Jul 2025 #13
Why? N/t malaise Jul 2025 #30
Perkins is a full on idiot and should be shunned - harumph Jul 2025 #14
sad. the whole frigging thing stillcool Jul 2025 #15
You get it malaise Jul 2025 #33
How about allowing the families to bury their dead children, before indulging in this ugly shit? Paladin Jul 2025 #16
Why do this ? Most Christian Camps are mostly white JI7 Jul 2025 #17
The Internet was a mistake Sympthsical Jul 2025 #18
This seems like what Ssrah McBride was talking about JI7 Jul 2025 #19
Who gives ForgedCrank Jul 2025 #20
Jesus fucking Christ, you added a PHOTO to your post? Fix your heart instead of doing race science on dead kids. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2025 #21
Children are dead because of FOTUS mcar Jul 2025 #23
And more than a few brown people have been disappeared malaise Jul 2025 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal Jul 2025 #24
They are Christian? They must recognize that God has spoken? nt Jit423 Jul 2025 #25
Read this thread malaise Jul 2025 #26
She's Probably Right Deep State Witch Jul 2025 #27
Bad choice. Not alerting but seriously consider taking this down. underpants Jul 2025 #29
Perkins deserves to be "cancelled" Renew Deal Jul 2025 #32
But people locking up brown people in cages can stick around malaise Jul 2025 #36
What does one have to do with the other? Renew Deal Jul 2025 #42
Disgusting wildflowergardener Jul 2025 #34
Jesus! This is just sick, people died, little kids died ... shouldn't matter the color!!!! nt Raine Jul 2025 #37
as you said: "It really doesn't matter" rollin74 Jul 2025 #38
Children died!! Have some decency and remove your post!! Pisces Jul 2025 #39
This has little to due with the children,, this is about the history of camp IrishBubbaLiberal Jul 2025 #46
You are a troll don't care to interact with you. The racial makeup mean nothing when children have died. Pisces Jul 2025 #49
Rec'd for [exposing] hypocrisy at its finest. nt taxi Jul 2025 #40
Tr**p Is Supposed To Make A Visit To The Flooded Texas Valley Next Week..... global1 Jul 2025 #41
Dear DUers: these are dead CHILDREN. What the hell? Hekate Jul 2025 #43
Do you see any minorities in Alumni photos? IrishBubbaLiberal Jul 2025 #48
Who Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #47
This is getting air time in Texas. There couldn't be a worse look Melon Jul 2025 #50

kwolf68

(8,447 posts)
1. Who cares
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 07:52 PM
Jul 2025

People died.

Just because some camp is all white or all black or mixed I want no harm to come to anyone.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,960 posts)
2. Does it matter?
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 07:53 PM
Jul 2025

There’s a bunch of dead kids and this is the sort of thing we’re supposed to think about?

Texasgal

(17,240 posts)
3. Why would this matter?
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 07:55 PM
Jul 2025

Children have died. Period.

sarisataka

(22,598 posts)
4. I never thought to ask that question
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 07:55 PM
Jul 2025

To me it seems irrelevant but I guess it might matter to some

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,854 posts)
5. It is not unusual in a white supremacy to have a de facto "whites only" experience without it being de jure.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:01 PM
Jul 2025

Not sure what the relevance is right at this moment, though.

dalton99a

(93,798 posts)
6. Their photo album is still available:
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:03 PM
Jul 2025
 

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
12. Use internet archive link
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:12 PM
Jul 2025

aeromanKC

(3,881 posts)
7. To be honest, I had the same thought as I do when there is a mass shooting.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:05 PM
Jul 2025

Please don't let the shooter be a minority or fringe religion. I can't change the outcome of people dying and that is always bad whoever it is, but please don't give the vile MAGAt's any ammunition to be vile and disgusting. (They don't need any excuses because they are, but still.)

Scrivener7

(59,348 posts)
11. This was a storm. How did that apply here?
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:12 PM
Jul 2025

aeromanKC

(3,881 posts)
31. Some people play chess, some people play checkers.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:47 PM
Jul 2025

MAGAt's, they play checkers. Their brains haven't evolved past Maslow's first level. And they like to brag and be vocal about it. They kinda remind me of Clevon's family tree in Idiocracy. And for me, I'm done listening to their underdeveloped one dimension brains that they do not get to vocalize in this sad event. Because you know they would if given a chance.

Scrivener7

(59,348 posts)
44. I still don't understand.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:17 PM
Jul 2025

Scrivener7

(59,348 posts)
8. They are dead children. Who were swept away by a storm.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:06 PM
Jul 2025

What is Ms. Perkins hoping will happen as a result of her saying the dead children are white? Does she think the efforts to find them should stop?

Her comment that no one would give a fuck if they were Hispanic girls is ridiculous. Did anyone know what their ethnicities were before Perkins made her asinine comments? I didn't. And it never occurred to me to ask. Because it doesn't matter. A freaking dozen kids were swept away in a storm and killed.

RockRaven

(19,179 posts)
9. The past 3/4 century's history of christian schooling in the south is one of using religion
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:08 PM
Jul 2025

as a cloak/shield for de facto segregation of children. So I would not be surprised if it were so.

That said, I don't see how this avenue of discussion/analysis is helpful in preventing other avoidable deaths from similar negligence/incompetence, nor in attaching culpability/liability for what cannot be undone.

taxi

(2,691 posts)
10. Yea, the term is Missing White Woman Syndrome
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:08 PM
Jul 2025

Let's face it. If you want the cops and the media to show up it takes a missing white woman or girl. The first thing that struck me about the publicity with these missing children is that the pictures were all light skinned, fair haired girls.

The media is far more likely to seize on the disappearance of a White woman than that of a woman of color—a phenomenon known as missing White woman syndrome. Sherri Parks, then an American Studies professor at the University Maryland, first coined the term, and the late Gwen Ifill popularized it at a journalism conference in 2004 when, mocking newsroom executives, she quipped: “If it’s a missing White woman, you’re going to cover that, every day.” Media coverage of a missing White woman tends to focus more on her role as a mother, daughter, or student, whereas stories about the disappearance of a woman of color typically focus more on an abusive boyfriend, for example, or her criminal history.

https://www.american.edu/magazine/article/3-minutes-on-missing-white-woman-syndrome.cfm]

Delko: Blonde girl's missing and the National Guard turns out to help. Hispanic girl, no one gives a damn.
Calleigh: I think there are a lot of people here.
Delko: Oh, come on, Calleigh. You saw the media's response to Lana Walker. You know? Where were the yellow ribbons for Consuela Valdez? The recovery center? It's the same song, you know? You want any real attention in this world, you got to have blonde hair and blue eyes. (To Calleigh) No offense.
Calleigh: None taken. My eyes are green.
— CSI: Miami, "Death Grip"
The term Missing White Woman Syndrome describes how Western media will focus on the murder, kidnapping, or disappearance of Caucasian females — usually young, pretty, cisgender, and middle- or upper-class — to the exclusion of elderly, male, minority, poor, and/or disabled missing persons.

The origin of the term is unclear. Although Professor Sheri Parks of the University of Maryland claims to have coined it circa 2005, it apparently has been in use among journalists (and Fark.com) for years before that (the late PBS anchor Gwen Ifill used the term in a panel discussion in August 2004, for example). It's also been referred to as "missing pretty girl" syndrome and "Damsel in Distress" syndrome. In particular, the United States (and to a lesser extent Canada) has the AMBER Alert, which is a special alert code for child abductions and was named for the young white daughter of influential parents.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MissingWhiteWomanSyndrome]

 

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
22. So true unfortunately
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:35 PM
Jul 2025

I have seen it time and time again.

A minority girl goes missing,
And it’s a day news story, maybe 2 or 3 days

A white girl goes missing it’s major news for weeks

taxi

(2,691 posts)
28. Logan Pearsall Smith said this:
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:43 PM
Jul 2025

"Don't tell friends their social faults; they will cure the fault and never forgive you."
Apparently, he isn't too popular around here.

Scrivener7

(59,348 posts)
45. If a dozen Hispanic children were swept away in a storm, do you really think it wouldn't be a story?
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:20 PM
Jul 2025

I know too well that white women and children get press when other groups don't. But this is a dozen children swept away in a storm.

Takket

(23,670 posts)
13. you cannot even be serious asking this..........
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:13 PM
Jul 2025

malaise

(295,390 posts)
30. Why? N/t
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:47 PM
Jul 2025

harumph

(3,217 posts)
14. Perkins is a full on idiot and should be shunned -
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:20 PM
Jul 2025

I have friends that have sent their kids to that very camp and not all have been white. We have one friend who just got her child back (thankfully alive) It's an expensive camp - that's true. Not the kid's fault. It's not fundamentalist Christian either - pretty middle of the road and not at all "preachy." I'm getting so fucking sick of people who don't know anything about the details...
This is a tragedy. Those little kids spent their last moments in terror and guess what - a good number were from urban educated
liberal families who were trying to give their babies a fun summer experience. Have some respect for the dead. People like
Perkins ALIENATE others. Garbage person.

Edited to add: People like Perkins gross me out like rabid Republicans.

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
15. sad. the whole frigging thing
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:21 PM
Jul 2025

missing family members taken by flood waters or ICE. Help for some.

malaise

(295,390 posts)
33. You get it
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:47 PM
Jul 2025

Rec

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
16. How about allowing the families to bury their dead children, before indulging in this ugly shit?
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:28 PM
Jul 2025

Sade Perkins needs to crawl back under her rock for the next few days. Talk about doing all you can to make an unspeakably awful situation much worse...

JI7

(93,510 posts)
17. Why do this ? Most Christian Camps are mostly white
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:29 PM
Jul 2025

becsuse they are organized through the largely white churches in mostly white areas.

Sympthsical

(10,945 posts)
18. The Internet was a mistake
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:30 PM
Jul 2025

What the fuck is wrong with people?

How does this need explaining?

They are children.

And by the way. The person who started this whole thing said in the video's comment section, "Maybe it was Gods will to wash them lil [c-words] away.”

Yeah. Let's bring that person to DU.

WTF, man.

JI7

(93,510 posts)
19. This seems like what Ssrah McBride was talking about
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:32 PM
Jul 2025

ForgedCrank

(3,089 posts)
20. Who gives
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:34 PM
Jul 2025

a shit?
There are a bunch of dead kids. This isn't a political tool FFS

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,854 posts)
21. Jesus fucking Christ, you added a PHOTO to your post? Fix your heart instead of doing race science on dead kids.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:34 PM
Jul 2025

mcar

(45,931 posts)
23. Children are dead because of FOTUS
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:35 PM
Jul 2025

That is all.

malaise

(295,390 posts)
35. And more than a few brown people have been disappeared
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:50 PM
Jul 2025

Some have died in the detention camps because of the same regime.

I mourn everyone of these innocent kids but I have no problem reading that the camp was an all white haven for the children of the political elite and their friends.

Response to IrishBubbaLiberal (Original post)

Jit423

(1,568 posts)
25. They are Christian? They must recognize that God has spoken? nt
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:41 PM
Jul 2025

malaise

(295,390 posts)
26. Read this thread
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:42 PM
Jul 2025

It explains why the Gnome got there so quickly.

Camp Mystic has long hosted thr children of the white political elite in Texas. Indeed one ReTHUG Congressman’s kids were among those rescued.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220463061

Here you have a regime telling us all to pray for these innocent children (and the kids are innocent) while they disappear brown people. Texas elites support this racist shit. The double standards need answers.

Deep State Witch

(12,697 posts)
27. She's Probably Right
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:43 PM
Jul 2025

Incredibly tone-deaf, but probably right. And yes, it would be covered differently if it was a bunch of low-income Hispanic or Black girls at a camp. Or if they were LGBTQ+ youth. But, geeze, at least wait until the flooding has subsided.

underpants

(196,149 posts)
29. Bad choice. Not alerting but seriously consider taking this down.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:46 PM
Jul 2025

Renew Deal

(85,000 posts)
32. Perkins deserves to be "cancelled"
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:47 PM
Jul 2025

She's not suitable for society. She is hate personified.

I had no idea the race of the kids when I heard about this (and I still don't). All I could think of was how much the feelings felt similar to Sandy Hook. But when you're a "person" like Sade Perkins, you can't get past the hatred in your rotting heart. She's no different than klan members, antisemites, and other racists.

And speaking of conservatives, who knew LBJ was such a big conservative?

malaise

(295,390 posts)
36. But people locking up brown people in cages can stick around
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:55 PM
Jul 2025

Deeds bother me way more than accurate words.

Renew Deal

(85,000 posts)
42. What does one have to do with the other?
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:12 PM
Jul 2025

Can't you feel sympathy for people without inserting politics? It's time to step away from the keyboard.

wildflowergardener

(1,027 posts)
34. Disgusting
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:48 PM
Jul 2025

All I care about are little kids who were at camp were killed. Race has nothing to do with this.

Raine

(31,158 posts)
37. Jesus! This is just sick, people died, little kids died ... shouldn't matter the color!!!! nt
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:55 PM
Jul 2025

rollin74

(2,294 posts)
38. as you said: "It really doesn't matter"
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:56 PM
Jul 2025

if it doesn't matter, why did you post a thread about it?

Pisces

(6,212 posts)
39. Children died!! Have some decency and remove your post!!
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:59 PM
Jul 2025
 

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
46. This has little to due with the children,, this is about the history of camp
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:25 PM
Jul 2025

This is about the racial makeup of camp.

Look at the Alumni photos.

Do you see any minorities?

Pisces

(6,212 posts)
49. You are a troll don't care to interact with you. The racial makeup mean nothing when children have died.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:26 PM
Jul 2025

taxi

(2,691 posts)
40. Rec'd for [exposing] hypocrisy at its finest. nt
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:59 PM
Jul 2025

global1

(26,507 posts)
41. Tr**p Is Supposed To Make A Visit To The Flooded Texas Valley Next Week.....
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:11 PM
Jul 2025

You got to believe that he will make some stupid comment about this that will get him in hot water

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
43. Dear DUers: these are dead CHILDREN. What the hell?
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:17 PM
Jul 2025

For shame. Is THIS the face you want to show to the world? Count me out.

 

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
48. Do you see any minorities in Alumni photos?
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:26 PM
Jul 2025

This is about the racial makeup of camp.

Look at the Alumni photos.

Do you see any minorities?
 

Greg_In_SF

(1,236 posts)
47. Who
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:26 PM
Jul 2025

gives a shit??

Melon

(1,469 posts)
50. This is getting air time in Texas. There couldn't be a worse look
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:28 PM
Jul 2025

For Democrats. Between seemingly cheering the demise of a GOP stronghold during a tragedy and now something so blatantly stupid. We are our own worst enemies.

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