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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow does it cost $450 millon to set up a
bunch of tents with cages in the middle of the
Everglades? It looks like a giant money laundering scam to me.
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snowybirdie
(6,571 posts)DeSantis' big donors got contracts! Hope David Jolly gets on this..
rsdsharp
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doc03
(38,841 posts)cost to build and operate it for one year. The state shut down our old prison because it was considered cruel punishment and these are far worse. The animals in our dog pound have better treatment.
Hekate
(100,132 posts)
Biophilic
(6,404 posts)But remember because the place is so uninhabitable everything has to be brought in including water (probably) and all waste including human has to be trucked out. It is a money pit. The businesses supporting this monstrosity are going to make out like bandits.
Hekate
(100,132 posts)
Evolve Dammit
(21,506 posts)
eggplant
(4,138 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,506 posts)
bucolic_frolic
(54,076 posts)Taxpayers are the losers.
TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)Poof! $450 Million.
ananda
(34,461 posts)...
LittleGirl
(8,948 posts)ananda
(34,461 posts)It's going to be a floodbath.
Rowdyag
(173 posts)ananda
(34,461 posts)And none of them ever did.
IOW, they might be able to defy human norms for awhile,
but nature is a whole nother thing.
Wiz Imp
(9,020 posts)Not remotely close to what one would call "bad" weather
LittleGirl
(8,948 posts)
Irish_Dem
(79,920 posts)
Emile
(40,671 posts)
Jose Garcia
(3,432 posts)
flamingdem
(40,794 posts)Another grift, another rip-off.
swong19104
(582 posts)It’s outright grift. Pad the cost, take the $450M, spend just $45M (or less), keep the difference.
Nigrum Cattus
(1,231 posts)$450,000,000 divide x 8 = $56,250,000 per day -
As a former construction estimator that knows
projects are typically 2/3 to 3/4 labor that would
require 562,500 @ $100 per hour divide by 8 hours
= 70,313 man hours per day
Wiz Imp
(9,020 posts)$450,000,000 divided by 365 days a year = $1,232,877 per day
Divide that by 3000 beds it's supposed to house = $411 per day per detainee.
Compare that to the average daily cost per prisoner in prisons in the US = $177
Some people are getting rich at taxpayer expense
Biophilic
(6,404 posts)All the water and food. All the sanitary stuff and the shit trucked out. It’s got to be a huge money maker for all their buddies.
Evolve Dammit
(21,506 posts)DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)pig shit lagoons all over the Southern States...........
Evolve Dammit
(21,506 posts)
Johonny
(25,506 posts)Every cent spent on poor people needs to be track, every billion spent on friendly contractors needs to be forgotten about.
Mysterian
(6,179 posts)Republican "fiscal conservatism" will get us there in no time!
Baitball Blogger
(51,744 posts)Bill is going to turn into a money laundering scheme.
Hornedfrog2000
(866 posts)Lower interest rates so they all can borrow more too.
Gimpyknee
(1,025 posts)Quanto Magnus
(1,300 posts)or whatever 'skimming fee' they're calling it now.
LittleGirl
(8,948 posts)flashman13
(2,049 posts)How many school lunches and meals on wheels could you buy with $450 M?
OldBaldy1701E
(10,225 posts)The first comment was this:
"So, what they are saying is that they could solve the homeless problem. I wonder why they won't?"
Wiz Imp
(9,020 posts)It's honestly a money laundering operation.
They're paying to lease everything in addition to overpaying a contractor to run and manage the place.
Watch these 2 tik-tok videos if you can. Myranda Knows her stuff.
https://www.tiktok.com/@myrandapolisci/video/7523673180733443342
https://www.tiktok.com/@myrandapolisci/video/7523707131682393399
This Daily Kos article has some information on some of the contractors involved but not much on the actual costs.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/7/5/2331596/-Why-will-Alligator-Alcatraz-cost-450-million-a-year-to-run
Granny's Alliance Holdings Inc has a $3.3 million contract to provide meals.
IRG Global Emergency Management has a $1.1 million contract for flight and operational support services.
SLSCO Ltd is a construction company that was also involved in building part of the border wall during Trump's first administration.
Garner Environmental Services is a disaster relief company.
Doodie Calls is a portable toilet company. Cute name.
GardaWorld is one of the world's largest security services.
Gotham LLC is a disaster logistics company.
Longview International Technological Solutions is tough to find anything out about, except for a review from somebody who said that they would never work for a company like this again.
I'm shocked that Fox actually published this editorial slamming it.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/swamp-games-inside-noems-controversial-alligator-alcatraz-detention-strategy
Literally.
Rather than investing in a durable, institutional enforcement backbone capable of sustaining President Donald Trump’s mass deportation mandate, Noem is shoveling detention funds into a pop-up project in a Florida swamp – proudly dubbed "Alligator Alcatraz." It’s not a joke. It’s an insult.
Let’s be clear: the heart of the Trump immigration agenda is mass deportation. That requires infrastructure like beds, buses and planes. And when it comes to beds, we’re talking real detention facilities and actual jails, not circus tents surrounded by reptiles.
So why is Noem building a "soft-sided" facility in an ecologically fragile mosquito pit, 45 miles from downtown Miami? Why is she seeking to sideline ICE’s institutional partners with decades of experience and instead cutting side deals with states desperate for political brownie points?
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Javaman
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kentuck
(115,122 posts)Nothing surprises me about this crooked regime.
Cheezoholic
(3,535 posts)Scalded Nun
(1,608 posts)Silent Type
(12,412 posts)that might be in ballpark. Hope that includes air conditioning and essentials.
Also hope it has a lot of wasted capacity with few detainees imprisoned.
spanone
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barbtries
(31,139 posts)They're committing atrocities on the taxpayers' dime and I have no doubt that plenty of money is landing directly in krasnov's pockets. and miller's and others who are shareholders in the company running this Crime Against Humanity.
