Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
53 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
One of the reasons why Trump won't release the Epstein files. (Original Post) red dog 1 Jul 2025 OP
EWWWW! kimbutgar Jul 2025 #1
That's all I've got, too. calimary Jul 2025 #9
So, homegirl Jul 2025 #40
How about DENVERPOPS Jul 2025 #47
Was this just released? choie Jul 2025 #2
no. katie johnson mopinko Jul 2025 #3
And his fuckhead kkkultists claim that proves she was lying Orrex Jul 2025 #10
Not surprising- scum! electric_blue68 Jul 2025 #23
And then "disappeared"... Jack Valentino Jul 2025 #38
I don't think so. It's been known since 2016, when the girl filed two lawsuits against Trump red dog 1 Jul 2025 #5
I also Rebl2 Jul 2025 #4
Not to mention at least one member of the British royal family. (nt) Pinback Jul 2025 #44
Yep Rebl2 Jul 2025 #49
I remember this. She feared for her life. Native Jul 2025 #6
True, she did fear for her life. red dog 1 Jul 2025 #8
According to several news reports, that was a pseudonym she used, as was Jane Doe Native Jul 2025 #12
I already posted that link below the Bluesky post. red dog 1 Jul 2025 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Jack Valentino Jul 2025 #39
Exactly Hornedfrog2000 Jul 2025 #45
That bastard! calimary Jul 2025 #53
He never should have been a candidate supported by a major party not fooled Jul 2025 #7
He's not even qualified to be a peep show janitor Orrex Jul 2025 #19
Which again is PROOF that B.See Jul 2025 #26
That's What I Was Going To Say Mr.Bee Jul 2025 #11
. BoRaGard Jul 2025 #13
Ever watch the Katie Johnson video angryxyouth Jul 2025 #14
Thanks for posting that. red dog 1 Jul 2025 #16
Yep... just posted another link to it below... didn't see yours LymphocyteLover Jul 2025 #37
And she had an eyewitness (Tiffany Doe) as well. red dog 1 Jul 2025 #50
In addition to all of this... sheshe2 Jul 2025 #17
The Attorney General by the name of BILL BARR had the Epstein evidence FakeNoose Jul 2025 #20
Yes. Epstein was a very skilled blackmailer, it appears. Pinback Jul 2025 #46
eck AllaN01Bear Jul 2025 #18
The files and videos were never going to be released, because Trump is up to his eyeballs in them. Fil1957 Jul 2025 #21
If they were smart mikeysnot Jul 2025 #28
Of COURSE she exists. B.See Jul 2025 #22
Rapist of a 13 year old. CRIMINAL. Will MSM even cover it? Doubtful, so we have to. LOCK HIM UP. FCS Evolve Dammit Jul 2025 #24
He is such a -hideous- person, and add the horrific things he's done/not done as pResident.... electric_blue68 Jul 2025 #25
I don't think Epstein committed suicide by hanging himself in his jail cell. red dog 1 Jul 2025 #30
I d k. And it IS possible especially w his mob ties electric_blue68 Jul 2025 #31
Well, there is evidence pointing away from him committing suicide, red dog 1 Jul 2025 #32
Oh, right. Forgot that. "Asleep"? electric_blue68 Jul 2025 #33
Asleep! Epstein was on "suicide watch" red dog 1 Jul 2025 #34
Yeah, I know. Was being sarcastic to the claimed situation electric_blue68 Jul 2025 #36
There are number of "coincidences" as well as questionable evidence which makes the suicide suspect at the very least. Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #52
The Trump loving morons will claim this girl has been lying, but think about it... Ohioboy Jul 2025 #27
1+ Norrrm Jul 2025 #29
You can see Katie Johnson's video testimony here LymphocyteLover Jul 2025 #35
Felon 47 threatens harm in order to get his way. pandr32 Jul 2025 #41
No wonder Donald had a modeling agency. pandr32 Jul 2025 #42
Isn't Trump recorded saying wryter2000 Jul 2025 #43
Yes, he did say that. red dog 1 Jul 2025 #51
Small children have small hands uppityperson Jul 2025 #48

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
47. How about
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 01:11 PM
Jul 2025

kidnapping her, using some Abu Graib (sp?) "Questioning" to get a long long list of Oligarchs, CEO's and Politicians..........

I guess it was called: "enhanced interrogation tactics".......words used by Cheney/Rumsfeld.....

Jack Valentino

(4,396 posts)
38. And then "disappeared"...
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 09:54 PM
Jul 2025

It is my hope that she still lives somewhere, under a different name....

but there are other unfortunate possibilities....

Rebl2

(17,417 posts)
4. I also
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 03:33 PM
Jul 2025

wonder if there are other republicans and democrats as well as judges, mayors, etc on the list.

Native

(7,303 posts)
6. I remember this. She feared for her life.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 03:44 PM
Jul 2025

and if I recall correctly, Katie Johnson is a pseudonym.

red dog 1

(32,527 posts)
8. True, she did fear for her life.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 03:57 PM
Jul 2025

Trump allegedly told her that if she ever told anyone, she and her entire family would be killed.

I've been following this case since 2016.

Her original lawsuit was filed as a Civil Rights case in CA in April 2016, under the name "Katie Johnson"

She filed the June, 2016 lawsuit in New York City under the name "Jane Doe" and she had an eyewitness named "Tiffany Doe" to verify her story.
After her attorney, Lisa Bloom, arranged for a press conference, it was suddenly cancelled.

She filed that first lawsuit against both Trump and Epstein without an attorney, and it was "dismissed for technical errors."

(From the link posted in the OP)
Johnson claimed she begged Trump to no avail to wear a condom, the complaint states.
"Trump grabbed his wallet and threw some money at" the plaintiff and suggested she get an abortion.

red dog 1

(32,527 posts)
15. I already posted that link below the Bluesky post.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 04:20 PM
Jul 2025

In the 2nd lawsuit filed in June, 2016 in NYC, she called herself "Jane Doe" and had an eyewitness to the rape with her named "Tiffany Doe"

Response to red dog 1 (Reply #8)

 

Hornedfrog2000

(866 posts)
45. Exactly
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 12:27 PM
Jul 2025

And stuff like this is part of why they make conspiracies about democrats. Then their supporters have something insane to cling to in order to bring Obama, or clinton down to the pedophile, sex offenders level. Putin did/does the same shit to his political opponents. Both sidersism, whataboutism.

not fooled

(6,608 posts)
7. He never should have been a candidate supported by a major party
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 03:52 PM
Jul 2025

in light of this and other credible reports of grotesque behavior on his part. See: David Cay Johnston describing red don's mob ties and criminal behavior, also back in 2016 and earlier.

I guess the handwriting was already on the wall back then that enough dumbasses had been primed to disbelieve or not care about these allegations.

Orrex

(66,691 posts)
19. He's not even qualified to be a peep show janitor
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 04:55 PM
Jul 2025

And yet his fuckhead kkkultists will worship him until the last of them is dead.

B.See

(7,820 posts)
26. Which again is PROOF that
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 05:29 PM
Jul 2025

in spite of any pretense to the contrary, all they care about is money, power, and CONTROL over those perceived as "other."

Not a shred of integrity among the lot of em.

Mr.Bee

(1,647 posts)
11. That's What I Was Going To Say
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 04:03 PM
Jul 2025

One of the reasons why Trump won't release the Epstein files.

red dog 1

(32,527 posts)
16. Thanks for posting that.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 04:21 PM
Jul 2025

I think that video used to be on a website she ran as "Katie Johnson" called "Justice for Katie"
The website was up for at least a year (or more).
[Since February, 2025, another "Justice for Katie" website has been posted about a different "Katie"]

Ronan Farrow mentioned her lawsuit against Trump & Epstein in his book "Catch and Kill."
He also wrote that an investigator trying to track her down went to a foreclosed house in 29 Palms, CA, and a neighbor told him that no one had been seen at the house for several months.

LymphocyteLover

(9,385 posts)
37. Yep... just posted another link to it below... didn't see yours
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 07:30 PM
Jul 2025

It's pretty rough...hard to see her being a complete fraud...

red dog 1

(32,527 posts)
50. And she had an eyewitness (Tiffany Doe) as well.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 04:24 PM
Jul 2025

Would they both lie under oath and risk being charged with perjury?

sheshe2

(95,974 posts)
17. In addition to all of this...
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 04:22 PM
Jul 2025

Let's be clear, the Attorney General of the United States has this file, the logs, everything. She knows he is a child rapist, criminal and a pervert. Yet she does nothing.

FakeNoose

(40,235 posts)
20. The Attorney General by the name of BILL BARR had the Epstein evidence
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 04:59 PM
Jul 2025

Last edited Tue Jul 8, 2025, 07:41 PM - Edit history (1)

My guess is that Barr destroyed anything that incriminated Chump at the first opportunity. For all we know, he may have destroyed all the Epstein evidence, even the stuff that doesn't mention Chump. Don't forget that Jeffrey Epstein was also acquainted with Bill Barr's father long ago, and it has even been suggested that Mr. Barr might have been Epstein's first blackmail victim. (It's another story, not related to this discussion.)

Pinback

(13,505 posts)
46. Yes. Epstein was a very skilled blackmailer, it appears.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 12:36 PM
Jul 2025

Maybe one day we’ll learn who he was really working for.

Fil1957

(547 posts)
21. The files and videos were never going to be released, because Trump is up to his eyeballs in them.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 05:05 PM
Jul 2025

I find it hilarious that the Magats are so stupid and naive that they are actually livid over the coverup which is done solely to protect Trump! If the Magats were smart enough to understand that the reason for the coverup is to protect their messiah, they would fully support it!

Evolve Dammit

(21,506 posts)
24. Rapist of a 13 year old. CRIMINAL. Will MSM even cover it? Doubtful, so we have to. LOCK HIM UP. FCS
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 05:22 PM
Jul 2025

electric_blue68

(25,979 posts)
25. He is such a -hideous- person, and add the horrific things he's done/not done as pResident....
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 05:25 PM
Jul 2025

Epstein is absolute scum, too, but he doesn't have the power to affect the USA & the World that drumphf does.

red dog 1

(32,527 posts)
30. I don't think Epstein committed suicide by hanging himself in his jail cell.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 06:04 PM
Jul 2025

He was probably murdered because of what he knew about VonShitzInPantz.

electric_blue68

(25,979 posts)
31. I d k. And it IS possible especially w his mob ties
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 06:12 PM
Jul 2025

Was JE the kind of "man" who'd be devastated after X days in prison? Did he think he was powerful enough (blackmail) to wiggle his way out of jail quickishly, so suicidal ideation was not on his plate?

red dog 1

(32,527 posts)
32. Well, there is evidence pointing away from him committing suicide,
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 06:24 PM
Jul 2025

including the fact that BOTH of his guards fell asleep while supposedly "watching him"?

Wiz Imp

(9,021 posts)
52. There are number of "coincidences" as well as questionable evidence which makes the suicide suspect at the very least.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 06:28 PM
Jul 2025

Epstein's death was the first death ruled a suicide at the MCC in 14 years. Michael Baden and 60 Minutes questioned whether Epstein, who was almost 6 ft tall and weighed 185 pounds, could have been able to hang himself from the lower bunk.

Photos taken after the death also show bottles and medicine standing upright on the top bunk.

Baden also questioned why Epstein did not use other materials available in his cell as a ligature, such as wires and tubing from a sleep apnea machine, which were stronger and longer.

On August 14, unofficial sources reported that broken bones were found in Epstein's neck. Although this can occur in the suicide of the elderly, these broken bones are "more common in victims of homicide by strangulation", according to forensic experts and studies. In particular, Baden claimed that Epstein's hyoid bone was broken in a way indicative of strangulation from behind.

Epstein's lawyers released a joint statement after the medical examiner's report, expressing dissatisfaction with it, challenging its conclusions...They later said that the evidence concerning Epstein's death was "far more consistent" with murder than suicide.

According to Baden, the neck wound was in the center of Epstein's neck, not under his mandibles as in a typical hanging. Baden said this is more common when a victim is strangled by a wire or cord. Baden also said that the wound was much thinner than the strip of bedsheet, and although there was blood on Epstein's neck, it was absent on the bed-sheet ligature.

Contrary to MCC and BOP policies and procedures, Epstein was allowed to sleep on the floor, had extra blankets and clothes. Photos of Epstein's cell included in the report shows piles of what appears to be orange clothes strewn about the floor and bed.

Epstein was also allowed to use a jail phone the night before he died that was unmonitored, in violation of BOP policy, and was not re-assigned a new cellmate despite previously attempting suicide.

He was also removed from suicide watch after being evaluated by a doctoral-level psychologist who determined that a suicide watch was no longer warranted despite the actual suicide attempt just 2 weeks earlier.

On November 19, 2019, federal prosecutors in New York indicted MCC guards Michael Thomas and Tova Noel, charging them with multiple counts of falsifying records and conspiracy to falsify records. The charges were based on video footage obtained by prosecutors, showing that the guards did not check on Epstein for eight hours. They were assigned to guard Epstein overnight but failed to complete more than 75 mandatory checks on him. Instead, they made personal searches on their computers and slept. He was left in his cell overnight, and only discovered dead at 6:30 a.m. on Aug. 10.

Two other BOP employees whose titles were Evening Watch SHU Officer in Charge and Material Handler, were referred for criminal charges due to falsely certifying inmate counts and rounds on the day before and after Epstein's death.

The surveillance footage taken inside the MCC, which purportedly shows no one entering Epstein’s cell on the night of August 9, 2019 (but not Epstein’s death) is missing a full minute of footage. If you skip through the 11-hour video, you’ll see the counter on the screen jumps from 11:58:58 p.m. to 12:00:00 a.m.

In a December 2019 court proceeding against Epstein's cellmate Nick Tartaglione, federal prosecutors reported that the surveillance footage from outside Epstein's cell during the July 23 incident (his prior suicide attempt) had disappeared. Tartaglione's defense, who claimed that the footage showed Tartaglione saving Epstein's life, hoped that it would illustrate Tartaglione's character. His lawyer had requested that the footage be kept on July 25, two days after the incident. Judge Kenneth Karas requested that the government determine what had happened to the footage. Several days later, federal prosecutors reversed their statement, claiming they had found the missing footage. But in January 2020, they admitted the footage had been permanently deleted because of a "clerical error".

At an August 27 hearing, Epstein defense attorney Reid Weingarten expressed "significant doubts" that Epstein's death was due to suicide. According to Weingarten, when attorneys met with their client shortly before his death, "we did not see a despairing, despondent, suicidal person".

Epstein's brother, Mark, has rejected the possibility of Jeffrey's suicide, claiming, "I could see if he got a life sentence, I could then see him taking himself out, but he had a bail hearing coming up."

Former US Attorney and Senate Judiciary Committee counsel Brett Tolman said the death was "more than coincidental", considering Epstein's "many connections to powerful people".





Ohioboy

(3,879 posts)
27. The Trump loving morons will claim this girl has been lying, but think about it...
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 05:29 PM
Jul 2025

She named both Trump and Epstein. How would that even happen if Trump hadn't been there? Did she just pick Chump out of the blue? He just happened to be the first person she thought of to accuse along with Epstein? Funny how Chump appears on flight logs, and knew Epstein. All coincidence?

MAGA will accept that Epstein could have been involved, but not their king Donald?

Chump has a lot to hide!

pandr32

(13,805 posts)
41. Felon 47 threatens harm in order to get his way.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 11:07 AM
Jul 2025

When anyone doesn't respond with complete submissiveness to bribes it's his go to. He threatens harm to one's family members. They fall in line.

pandr32

(13,805 posts)
42. No wonder Donald had a modeling agency.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 11:15 AM
Jul 2025

Teenage girls will get their parents to shell out $500 to get a portfolio done (by a Trump flunky). The parents will also allow their teenage daughters to get dressed up to attend these 'scouting' party events.
No wonder some of them can be seen heavily made up and jumping up and down when pervy Donald walks into the event. They think he's going to give them their dream modeling starts.

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
43. Isn't Trump recorded saying
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 11:37 AM
Jul 2025

Epstein is a great guy. He likes beautiful women, and he likes them young.

red dog 1

(32,527 posts)
51. Yes, he did say that.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 04:41 PM
Jul 2025

Meanwhile, back in February, this MAGAT is shouting: "Who the hell is on those Epstein tapes?"


Latest Discussions»General Discussion»One of the reasons why Tr...