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Botany

(76,378 posts)
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 08:23 AM Jul 2025

270 dead in Texas Hill Country. 109 found dead and 161 missing. Killed by Fox News/Republican thinking



Hey Kerr County here is 5 million $s to stop flash flood tragedies. Republicans in Kerr County
in 2021, “No thanx the money is from Biden.” Although the local Republican officials kept “that
dirty Buden money” anyway. They just didn’t spend it on a flood warning system.

Those little girls @ the summer camp died because of Republican thinking. No wonder they
need to rig elections because they are at their core unAmerican and refuse to understand that
Fox News, the right wing on many levels, and those bought and paid for whores from the fossil
industries, and Christo Fascist are lying to them.

“Today’s not the day and now’s not the time to discuss the warnings, who got them, who didn’t got them. Right now I’m only worried about public safety,” Kerr County Sheriff Larry Leitha said Monday during an emergency session of the county commissioners court.

Right out of the NRA’s playbook after a mass shooting …. “Now is not the time to talk about gun laws.”

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270 dead in Texas Hill Country. 109 found dead and 161 missing. Killed by Fox News/Republican thinking (Original Post) Botany Jul 2025 OP
Pukes are dirty and dangerous. Blues Heron Jul 2025 #1
They try to shut down any notion of "politicizing" this. OrlandoDem2 Jul 2025 #2
Yup. Ingraham and Hannity are already in "Nothing to see here, please disperse!" mode. Initech Jul 2025 #11
Doesn't apply to California wildfire season though newdeal2 Jul 2025 #22
If you B.See Jul 2025 #42
Will pass 300 malaise Jul 2025 #3
Should have been "worried about public safety" last year bucolic_frolic Jul 2025 #4
That camp was built on a known flood plain long before Fox News Kaleva Jul 2025 #5
But Fox News/republican thinking made them not install a warning system for that Flood Plain. Botany Jul 2025 #7
Not allowing building on a known floodplain would have been the correct thing to do Kaleva Jul 2025 #25
In Texas, it is hard to prevent developrs from doing what they want DBoon Jul 2025 #26
It's about the money Kaleva Jul 2025 #47
Right wing shutdown complete. Kingofalldems Jul 2025 #31
A very sound reason to place warning sirens Torchlight Jul 2025 #36
It would have been more sound to shut down the camps and RV parks Kaleva Jul 2025 #48
Biden sent money for forward thinking changes Tesha Jul 2025 #6
Kerr co. GOP officials chose not to install sirens and other safety measures Torchlight Jul 2025 #8
Exhibit A in the forthcoming lawsuits. ms liberty Jul 2025 #15
I have already put forth that argument as to why this will not go away. efhmc Jul 2025 #45
Also, they would rather own the libs by turning down Federal funds from the Biden administration DBoon Jul 2025 #28
A flood warning system is socialism that takes away our freedoms IronLionZion Jul 2025 #9
They live in an alternate reality. The conspiracy nonsense is going strong already. Idiots. 😡 Dave Bowman Jul 2025 #20
Good Magats maliaSmith Jul 2025 #10
I mean, trump killed an extra 700,000 people Hornedfrog2000 Jul 2025 #12
One thing that's come from this is that it's isolated and exposed the typical MAGAt's core beef against government... Hugin Jul 2025 #13
When exactly is the time to discuss this? After you think it's forgotten? live love laugh Jul 2025 #14
Like every other tragedy in Texas.....never. Unless they are forced to and then only begrudgingly. walkingman Jul 2025 #16
After the tragedy settles just long enough defacto7 Jul 2025 #19
"They" are going to find a way to a way to blame Dr. Fauci for the flood. Botany Jul 2025 #23
Children's lives don't matter yankee87 Jul 2025 #17
Gun control should have started after Delmette2.0 Jul 2025 #38
Horrible tragedy that could have been avoided if not for these criminals. Dave Bowman Jul 2025 #18
They've already FAILED the ''Public Safety'' part. ''Who got the WARNING?'' is all that matters now ... aggiesal Jul 2025 #21
This ain't going away. No sweeping under the rug. oasis Jul 2025 #24
270? Jesus underpants Jul 2025 #27
Mostly because of building on a flood plane and not wanting to pay for sirens. Srkdqltr Jul 2025 #29
40 years of conservative bullshit got us here. Initech Jul 2025 #30
Yes, decades of it have tainted our country. Scott Alan Swaggerty Jul 2025 #50
Unbelievable DET Jul 2025 #32
The story* is the Republican officials of Kerr County in 2021 took "the Biden money" but refused to Botany Jul 2025 #33
Here's the transcript from the Kerr county council meeting where the decisions were made... Hugin Jul 2025 #34
I hope the victim's families use that transcript when they sue the hell out of those Kerr County, Republicans. Botany Jul 2025 #35
270 dead in Texas Hill Country. 109 found dead and 161 missing. Killed by Fox News/Republican thinking Baron1977 Jul 2025 #37
Climatic malfeasance by Republicans contributed to the deaths of these people. Just sayin... RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jul 2025 #39
Start watching down stream. Delmette2.0 Jul 2025 #40
Leave republicans alone! JoseBalow Jul 2025 #41
Welcome to Du LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2025 #46
John Fugelsang was on fire on this RussBLib Jul 2025 #43
The trouble is, they believe things spinbaby Jul 2025 #44
Great post! Thanks. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jul 2025 #53
Absolutely Scott Alan Swaggerty Jul 2025 #49
Oh my God in heaven mahina Jul 2025 #51
The # now is 290 dead Botany Jul 2025 #52
There were people who came to party along the river applegrove Jul 2025 #54

OrlandoDem2

(3,153 posts)
2. They try to shut down any notion of "politicizing" this.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 08:28 AM
Jul 2025

How about a little self-reflection on the destructive policies of the GOP? But nope. If you say anything you’re “politicizing it”.

Initech

(107,410 posts)
11. Yup. Ingraham and Hannity are already in "Nothing to see here, please disperse!" mode.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 10:40 AM
Jul 2025

B.See

(7,757 posts)
42. If you
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 10:12 PM
Jul 2025

refused Medicaid expansion that would have helped your constituents,

refuse free lunch programs designed to provide sustenance to your constituents' children

and refuse government subsidies that would've made your constituents AND their children safer, then

1) you've ALREADY politicized it, and

2) you're a mean-spirited, self-centered, lowlife pos.

end of story

Botany

(76,378 posts)
7. But Fox News/republican thinking made them not install a warning system for that Flood Plain.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 09:07 AM
Jul 2025

A flood plain should tell you the area floods so a warning system was the right thing to do
and “they” stopped that.

Really smart hydro geologists, engineers, ecologists, and scientists had a design for a
warning system ready to be installed but Republicans stopped that from happening.



Kaleva

(40,162 posts)
25. Not allowing building on a known floodplain would have been the correct thing to do
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 02:00 PM
Jul 2025

Otherwise it’s like allowing subpar electric work as long as smoke detectors are in place.

DBoon

(24,710 posts)
26. In Texas, it is hard to prevent developrs from doing what they want
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 02:03 PM
Jul 2025

The political leadership wants to support "business" by not regulating anything.

Tesha

(21,102 posts)
6. Biden sent money for forward thinking changes
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 09:05 AM
Jul 2025

Repugs made a big deal about not using it to keep citizens safe

Someone voted for this because every vote matters, it’s a choice

Torchlight

(6,307 posts)
8. Kerr co. GOP officials chose not to install sirens and other safety measures
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 09:11 AM
Jul 2025

Last edited Wed Jul 9, 2025, 10:56 AM - Edit history (1)

while surrounding counties did. At the time, they jokingly said the motion was "dead in the water." Ten bucks says this directly exacerbated to the higher count of casualties there.

efhmc

(16,077 posts)
45. I have already put forth that argument as to why this will not go away.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 08:05 AM
Jul 2025

Not only the loss of children but of massive amounts of property will keep it going.

DBoon

(24,710 posts)
28. Also, they would rather own the libs by turning down Federal funds from the Biden administration
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 02:16 PM
Jul 2025

They had opportunities to build an early warning system using money from both the Obama and the Biden administration, but turned it down for political reasons.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220468310

This has tha actual meeting transcripts

IronLionZion

(50,817 posts)
9. A flood warning system is socialism that takes away our freedoms
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 10:06 AM
Jul 2025

It's a slippery slope to go from flood warning system straight into Stalin's Siberian gulags.


GOP prefers to take away children's lives because they are pro-life.

Dave Bowman

(6,627 posts)
20. They live in an alternate reality. The conspiracy nonsense is going strong already. Idiots. 😡
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 11:33 AM
Jul 2025

maliaSmith

(135 posts)
10. Good Magats
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 10:36 AM
Jul 2025

Trump's maggots will keep on voting for GOP no matter how many die. You can't fix stupid. They will say it's God's Will. Thank God I live in California.

 

Hornedfrog2000

(866 posts)
12. I mean, trump killed an extra 700,000 people
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 10:42 AM
Jul 2025

From monitizing covid. So this is peanuts. Drop in the bucket. Lots more winnng coming

Hugin

(37,420 posts)
13. One thing that's come from this is that it's isolated and exposed the typical MAGAt's core beef against government...
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 10:49 AM
Jul 2025

They see taxes as their money even after they may or may not have paid them and then they resent what they still consider their money going to help others who's "values don't align with theirs".

Seriously, that's it in a nutshell.

How do we counter this? It's pervasive, even among some who consider themselves Democrats.

walkingman

(10,325 posts)
16. Like every other tragedy in Texas.....never. Unless they are forced to and then only begrudgingly.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 10:59 AM
Jul 2025

defacto7

(14,160 posts)
19. After the tragedy settles just long enough
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 11:32 AM
Jul 2025

to inject false narrative into the public's ear to advance their agenda, that's when they will want discuss it.

Botany

(76,378 posts)
23. "They" are going to find a way to a way to blame Dr. Fauci for the flood.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 01:14 PM
Jul 2025

Seriously that is the way they work. Why speak the truth when a lie serves their agenda
better.

yankee87

(2,755 posts)
17. Children's lives don't matter
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 11:22 AM
Jul 2025

Ever since Sandy Hook when we decided guns have more rights than children, I have zero confidence in Republicans. Their base cares more about owning the libs than their children's lives. Texass will still go strong red in 26. I wish I had more hope.

aggiesal

(10,536 posts)
21. They've already FAILED the ''Public Safety'' part. ''Who got the WARNING?'' is all that matters now ...
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 11:34 AM
Jul 2025

I'm. not cold hearted. I just believed that after 5 days, if they haven't found the 161 missing, they are presumed dead and "Search" mode should transition to "Recovery" mode.

It's time to start pointing fingers. Mierda47 has already blamed Biden.
It's obvious to me that (R)'s are at the heart of the problem.

Srkdqltr

(9,358 posts)
29. Mostly because of building on a flood plane and not wanting to pay for sirens.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 02:18 PM
Jul 2025

All back too themselves. All the people who live there who would not do the hard part of being good neighbors. They are at fault.
The people who just had to build or camp on the flood plane.
They will do it again. The camp will be rebuilt just there and the campers will be back at the bank of the river.

Initech

(107,410 posts)
30. 40 years of conservative bullshit got us here.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 02:18 PM
Jul 2025

And Greg Abbott is yakking on Fox about how "responsibility is like baseball". WTF. No, asshole, YOU AND YOUR STUPID SHITTY PRESIDENT AND YOUR SHITTY ASS KISSING PROPAGANDA CHANNEL ARE DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS!

DET

(2,368 posts)
32. Unbelievable
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 02:33 PM
Jul 2025

So they were given FREE GOVERNMENT MONEY to enhance security in that area and they didn’t use it in order to ‘own the libs’? I hope the lawsuits bankrupt Texas.

Botany

(76,378 posts)
33. The story* is the Republican officials of Kerr County in 2021 took "the Biden money" but refused to
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 02:48 PM
Jul 2025

… spend it on a flash flood warning system along the Guadalupe River although they didn’t
return the money because it might go to a liberal state such as Oregon or California.


* from the internets …. So you know it is real.

Hugin

(37,420 posts)
34. Here's the transcript from the Kerr county council meeting where the decisions were made...
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 04:16 PM
Jul 2025
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220468310

Please, feel free to draw your own conclusions.

Botany

(76,378 posts)
35. I hope the victim's families use that transcript when they sue the hell out of those Kerr County, Republicans.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 05:20 PM
Jul 2025

They were so Foxed up in their heads that they saw a good and decent man in President
Biden as “the enemy” who needed to be fought on each and every level.

 

Baron1977

(2 posts)
37. 270 dead in Texas Hill Country. 109 found dead and 161 missing. Killed by Fox News/Republican thinking
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 08:21 PM
Jul 2025

I see repugs often blame the deaths of innocents on democrats. Using their own politically biased reasoning. We don't need to mimic their behavior for this awful natural disaster. Please note that the river rose by over 26 feet in less than one hour. At around 2:00am in the morning. Just saying...

RussBLib

(10,423 posts)
43. John Fugelsang was on fire on this
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 10:58 PM
Jul 2025

It's taken from John's recent podcast. It's long, so I cannot post it all, but here is some of it....


Texas, the Flood, and the Very High Cost of ‘Small Government’

You know what’s more offensive than politicizing a tragedy? Refusing to prevent the next one.

Let’s talk about what just happened in Texas. Last Friday, flash floods ripped through Central Texas, killing well over 100 people—including 28 children. It’s the deadliest natural disaster to strike the region in a century. Girls are still missing. Families are still waiting.

The New York Times reported that crucial positions were vacant at the local National Weather Service offices. Meteorologists, hydrologists—people who literally issue flood warnings and work with local authorities—just not there. Why? Staffing shortages. Budget cuts. Millionaire-at-birth narcissists gutting the federal government until it bleeds.

These are the exact people whose job it is to communicate with local emergency managers. AccuWeather’s chief meteorologist said it outright: “Evacuations could have reduced the fatalities—if officials had heeded warnings from both public and private sources.”

Now, after decades of building a world-class forecasting system, we watched it fail. Because it was sabotaged. Not by God. Not by nature.

By the party of “deregulate everything,” of “privatize disaster relief,” of “faith-based emergency planning.”

By the same reality TV performer who sharpied a hurricane path on a weather map in 2019 just took a chainsaw to NOAA, the NWS, and the very people whose job is to save lives before disaster strikes.

By the people who think weather warnings are woke.

By the people who spent last Fall exploiting the horrors of Hurricane Helene in North Carolina to bludgeon a Democratic president.

The rest is here, on Substack, which means you might need to subscribe (and can for no charge) to read all of it. Psst! I posted it all on my blog.

https://russblib.blogspot.com



spinbaby

(15,365 posts)
44. The trouble is, they believe things
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 05:27 AM
Jul 2025

I had a brother who lived in Texas who believed in miraculous cures and that God wanted him to be rich. He died of cancer. He died poor.

What’s going on in Texas is superstition wrapped up in religion: We can build a summer camp on a flood plain because God will protect us. We don’t need to spend money on a warning system because God will protect us.

It’s just so common for the evangelical crowd to think things can be true if only they believe hard enough.

Botany

(76,378 posts)
52. The # now is 290 dead
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:50 PM
Jul 2025
https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/texas-flooding-live-updates/?id=123729682

More than 130 people are dead after devastating flooding in the Texas Hill Country that began early on the Fourth of July. More than 160 people are missing.

Thanx to DUer Malaise for posting this.

*******
In 2021 you had mouth breathers in Kerr County, TX turning down what might be 10 million $s
for a flood warning system because “Joe Biden is a communist who can’t be trusted.” Direct
quote. Listening to Fox News, (there like) their Christo Fascist Pastors, local republicans,
the Governor and Lt. Governor, the likes of Ted Cruz has its costs, web sites (loaded with Russian
misinformation such as don’t get vaccinated), and the fossil fuel industries has its costs.

Our reality. From Chasing Ice. Warm air holds more water.





applegrove

(130,226 posts)
54. There were people who came to party along the river
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 07:06 PM
Jul 2025

who they don't know about. They can't even find missing trailers they are looking for. They'll never find everyone. So sad.

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