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milestogo

(22,449 posts)
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 10:17 AM Jul 2025

Tell me where I can go to get away from AI.

It feels like this is being shoved down out throats. Appearing on computers and phones. Taking over the job market, taking over social media, taking over the arts. Taking over education - as if we need to make people any dumber.

Can I just ignore it?

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Tell me where I can go to get away from AI. (Original Post) milestogo Jul 2025 OP
Outside... 2naSalit Jul 2025 #1
Ai should be illegal! SheltieLover Jul 2025 #2
I go out to my garden. Lilithschyld Jul 2025 #3
We can try to ignore it... TommyT139 Jul 2025 #4
Very good advice! NCgayguy Jul 2025 #19
I have successfully ignored it until last week when I engaged with the most recent AI app referred to as Notes, which msfiddlestix Jul 2025 #5
AI comes in many forms. Igel Jul 2025 #15
Ted Gioia says: usonian Jul 2025 #6
He's wrong about Google. udm14 turns off AI, saves beaucoup energy. nt eppur_se_muova Jul 2025 #8
good read... FirstLight Jul 2025 #11
I just did an image search and almost all the results were AI generated. usonian Jul 2025 #12
I hear ya... FirstLight Jul 2025 #13
I only make minor adjustments to photos. usonian Jul 2025 #14
Huh??? hunter Jul 2025 #23
I avoid it by choice. usonian Jul 2025 #24
Back in time. Intractable Jul 2025 #7
Profit-driven "progress" is not the same as well, progress. eppur_se_muova Jul 2025 #9
Some days, I feel the exact same way about electricity. Torchlight Jul 2025 #10
Lol until major lightening storm Tree Lady Jul 2025 #17
My great grandparent's ranch was just about as far away as you can get from civilization... hunter Jul 2025 #28
Bet she was in shape. cachukis Jul 2025 #29
By the same token, was in Madagascar some years cachukis Jul 2025 #30
Anything offline Tree Lady Jul 2025 #16
You can't get away from it. None of us can. NCgayguy Jul 2025 #18
The AI doomers count on your technological ineptitiude TheProle Jul 2025 #20
That would be me then. Point proven. I'm the fool. NCgayguy Jul 2025 #21
No offense intended. I was careful to use your own description: "I'm so technological inept" TheProle Jul 2025 #22
Are there societal advantages to fingertip answers cachukis Jul 2025 #31
Maybe the Luddites were on to something about technology. Ping Tung Jul 2025 #25
The Luddites were not actually anti technology. cachukis Jul 2025 #32
Tool ZDU Jul 2025 #26
Rule of thumb for every new new thing WSHazel Jul 2025 #27

TommyT139

(2,134 posts)
4. We can try to ignore it...
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 10:29 AM
Jul 2025

...but it won't ignore us.

Sounds like a chunk of DOGE's spoor is exchanging human civil servants for some AI.

Here is something you can watch for: some medical providers are starting to use AI to help make notes from your medical appointments. If yours does (you can ask), it is even more important to review those visit notes (pretty easy if you use an app), to make sure whatever you reported as a symptom was accurately transcribed. (Of course, mistakes happen with human scribes, too.) If there is something that's incorrect, get in touch with your doctor's team to fix your chart.

msfiddlestix

(8,159 posts)
5. I have successfully ignored it until last week when I engaged with the most recent AI app referred to as Notes, which
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 10:49 AM
Jul 2025

appeared on my account following Gemini which I did a little bit of "engaging" to understand how it worked, etc.

I actually find Notes extraordinarily helpful to me as a very interesting and efficient platform for organizing my music files which involves band sets and arrangements and that sort of thing, combining personally created mp3's with corresponding transcripts, and arrangements, all together which I have too numerous to track easily.
I was astonished with the ease and useful research of original source content saving me untold hours of time researching. Particularly since I'm losing my vision, though not completely blind yet.
For folks with certain disabilities may find AI a very useful tool translating as a remarkable game changer.

Having said that, it is rather spooky on so many levels. For example, there is a feature in Notes, when I uploaded a music transcript, Notes immediately texted a deep analysis of all of the elements contained within the transcript sheet music, but when I selected audio "deep dive" feature, after a few minutes what occurred blew my mind,

It was a sort of podcast conversation/discussion analyzing the music, between two very engaged "people" .
It was extraordinary, and sort of freaky, Because it sounded like two humans, deeply engaged with natural inflections,
responses and other normal elements of humans engaging conversationally.
I am not forced or pressured to use it. But I have a few times voluntarily.

usonian

(23,289 posts)
6. Ted Gioia says:
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 10:58 AM
Jul 2025

If I wanted to boycott AI, I would need to give up

• My email account
• All Google searches
• My word processing software
• Also Excel, PowerPoint, etc.
• Amazon and many other online retailers
• Spotify and any other music streamer that allows it
• Contacting customer service at many companies
• Etc. etc. etc.

That’s bad news—because most of us need some of those things to live and work. But it will soon get much worse. Just wait and see.

https://www.honest-broker.com/p/the-force-feeding-of-ai-on-an-unwilling

FirstLight

(15,757 posts)
11. good read...
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 12:59 PM
Jul 2025

I fucking HATE everything about AI.... I see people using it for things that should require HUMAN common sense!

I just downloaded something to remove it from my google search, and I founf a help page to disable it (temporarily, till the next update) in Office apps...

This whole technology thing has definitely gotten out of hand. This is why Musk deleted all those Govt Jobs, he convinced Tangerine Tubby that he could AUTOMATE the whole Government... That's another reason they want to just eliminate us 'useless eaters' cuz we complain about it too loudly...

usonian

(23,289 posts)
12. I just did an image search and almost all the results were AI generated.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 01:13 PM
Jul 2025

Slop heaven. For pigs.

Pictures, posts, it's all pollution.


I sent my best ever photo, a double rainbow, to a friend of over 30 years, with lens and exposure info (besides, the EXIF data was embedded in the photo) and he asked if it was real.

I guess that only face to face encounters have any real meaning at all these days, and I am in the middle of nowhere in the woods, 50 miles from friends.

I rarely post photos, though I admire those who do. I believe that DU wants AI creations labeled as such. But I am not feeding the monster, except with my highly biased posts, little to counteract the nazi bot army, as shown by Grok's mecha-Hitler.

When everything's fake, authenticity should stand out, but does it?

FirstLight

(15,757 posts)
13. I hear ya...
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 02:00 PM
Jul 2025

I tried to use it once to generate a logo for my biz, got a big mess... Asked my Son in law and he DREW me a logo. I use it proudly, because it is obviously hand drawn and not "polished"... Authenticity counts!

Funny, I too have posted pics of my beautiful Sierras, done with my cell phone so everything is embedded, and people ask me if I altered it. I post now, YES the sky IS that Blue!

Yet another exhausting thing we have to be vigilant about. I don't need any of this crap...and get off my lawn!

hunter

(40,325 posts)
23. Huh???
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 07:04 PM
Jul 2025

I'm a Luddite who rarely interacts with AI in my daily activities. My personal computer use hasn't changed much since the 'nineties.

My word processing "needs" can be fully satisfied with a 1MHz 8 bit computer. I don't need AI for that. There's no Excel or Powerpoint or Photoshop in my life.

My phone flips open like a Star Trek communicator. Mostly I use it as a phone. Sometimes I send and receive texts. It's not connected to my email accounts.

I quit Amazon, I quit google searches (the quality of which has deteriorated intolerably in the past few years), and I try to avoid businesses that don't have an adequate number of human customer service reps.

I don't need AI for any of that stuff and I won't be assimilated without resistance.

usonian

(23,289 posts)
24. I avoid it by choice.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 07:15 PM
Jul 2025

Been living by myself for 10 years, and most of my friends live 50 miles away.

I really don't need to communicate with artificial humans.

That actually makes me feel WORSE.

I actually value quality over quantity, and that seems so old-fashioned.

And there are some deep philosophical reasons, as well, but that's for a much longer essay. Hint: it has to do with "authenticity".

Intractable

(1,571 posts)
7. Back in time.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 11:09 AM
Jul 2025

It's the only way.

I grew up as a futurist. I wanted a robust space program and talking computers.

Now, these things have become dystopian thanks to the likes of Musk, Bezos, and others.

eppur_se_muova

(40,864 posts)
9. Profit-driven "progress" is not the same as well, progress.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 12:07 PM
Jul 2025

The clamor for things like AI and self-driving cars comes from the investor class, not the about-to-be-displaced-worker class.

Tree Lady

(12,975 posts)
17. Lol until major lightening storm
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 03:43 PM
Jul 2025

Few days ago when it was 100 degrees and power went out, didn't care about tv or lights, wanted my AC back!

I had a battery fan I use for camping in summer not much but better than nothing.

hunter

(40,325 posts)
28. My great grandparent's ranch was just about as far away as you can get from civilization...
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 08:39 PM
Jul 2025

... in the 48 states. Nevertheless it had electricity and phone service thanks to FDR's New Deal.

My great grandmother was still cursing Rural Electrification when I was a kid and was resentful that my great grandfather had signed onto it mostly to support his radio habit.

Her two room house had two electric lights and a damned radio. As children we were not allowed to touch the light switches or the radio. There was no bathroom, no indoor plumbing, just an outhouse.

My grandma had given the newer "big house" on the ranch to my mom's cousin, her eldest grandson, when he married. One summer we were visiting and my mom's cousin was installing an electric well pump and some minimal indoor plumbing, all of which he'd ordered from Sears. My great grandma was furious with him, convinced that he'd bring ruin to the family all for trying to please his wife with some modern conveniences.



cachukis

(3,617 posts)
30. By the same token, was in Madagascar some years
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 09:44 PM
Jul 2025

ago.
Not many gray hairs.
Everyone walks 20 miles a day.
One electricity line to some villages. Only a few lightbulbs.
We all benefit (one side) from modernity.
I like refrigeration and flush toilets.
I am not excited about having to tote my own dinner ware.

NCgayguy

(255 posts)
18. You can't get away from it. None of us can.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 04:23 PM
Jul 2025

The worst fear is now a reality. AI is created and programed by those in control. If the programmer decides to input anything they deem a threat to their wants and desires, it's S.O.L. for the rest of us. That's just my on uneducated opinion. It's just how it feels these days.

I'm sorry I sound so negative. That's not my intention. To be perfectly honest, I'm so technological inept I can barely understand what half of you good folks are saying. I'm always late to the party with nothing to offer. I should probably just keep my mouth shut to keep from being proved to be a fool.


Reis

TheProle

(3,892 posts)
20. The AI doomers count on your technological ineptitiude
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 04:30 PM
Jul 2025

which is not the same as saying there are not ethical, safety and economic concerns. But beware the fearmongers and absolutists.

AI is a tool, already enormously effective in some areas (with a long way to go in others) and with tremendous potential.

NCgayguy

(255 posts)
21. That would be me then. Point proven. I'm the fool.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 05:13 PM
Jul 2025

You're absolutely right. It can be and has been very helpful in some areas and with tremendous potential. It can also just as dangerous in the wrong hands as with any other technological creations, which was all I was saying. Thanks for putting me in my place. I forgot myself right after I stated I was not as smart as some of you. I was merely giving my opinion. Kudos to you!

TheProle

(3,892 posts)
22. No offense intended. I was careful to use your own description: "I'm so technological inept"
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 05:18 PM
Jul 2025

As for "in the wrong hands", they will never turn loose. That's why we need more of the masses to understand, if not embrace, the potential and help create its role in culture and science.

There was absolutely no intent to "put you in your place."

cachukis

(3,617 posts)
31. Are there societal advantages to fingertip answers
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 09:47 PM
Jul 2025

over the well thought out, integrated ones?

cachukis

(3,617 posts)
32. The Luddites were not actually anti technology.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 09:49 PM
Jul 2025

They wanted it integrated mindful of the workforce.

WSHazel

(627 posts)
27. Rule of thumb for every new new thing
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 07:47 PM
Jul 2025

Whether it is PCs, the Internet, the smartphone, the Cloud or now AI, there are two rules of thumb:

1) those promoting it the most typically have a huge financial stake in the continuation of the valuation bubble surrounding the new technology; and

2) the more insane the advantages of the new technology sound, the closer we are to the bubble popping.

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