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Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 12:40 PM Jul 2025

U.S. citizen and Orange County attorney put into ICE van along with others enjoying a day in the park

https://archive.ph/HTP6Y

Heidi Plummer, a U.S. citizen and Orange County attorney, strolled through Centennial Regional Park in Santa Ana on June 14 to clear her mind after a family funeral when she suddenly encountered an immigration raid.

The park, with its vast grassy fields, playgrounds and artificial lake, usually bustles with families watching youth soccer games on weekends while push-cart vendors sell ice pops.
“There were families picnicking and spending time together,” Plummer said. “But it was definitely a quiet day.”



Plummer recounted seeing several vans pull into a big parking lot near where she walked, sometime between noon and 1 p.m. Masked federal agents poured out of the vans wearing tactical gear emblazoned with “ICE” and made their way through the park.

“They were just grabbing people that were close to them and handcuffing them,” Plummer said.


She stood only a few feet from the sweep, she said, when ICE agents approached and arrested her. Plummer said the federal agents didn’t ask any questions before taking her personal belongings and leading her back to their vans.

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U.S. citizen and Orange County attorney put into ICE van along with others enjoying a day in the park (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jul 2025 OP
Holy shit! Fuck these fucking ICE cretins. May they all rot in the hottest of hells. Initech Jul 2025 #1
Trump is doing this to terrorize the American populace. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #2
Not just any American Populace maxsolomon Jul 2025 #23
But no one is safe. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #46
Meh. maxsolomon Jul 2025 #49
Trump would jail or kill his own cult in a heartbeat for money and power. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #51
He would, but he doesn't need to. maxsolomon Jul 2025 #52
You are assuming he is normal. He is a vicious, ruthless psychopath. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #55
I do not assume he's normal. I never have. maxsolomon Jul 2025 #57
Trump and his regime are two different entities. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #59
"L'etat, c'est moi" maxsolomon Jul 2025 #60
Yes but will it work, or will it just end up pissing off Americans, who think rebellion is their birthright? ms liberty Jul 2025 #45
Trump has the entire US military, National Guard, and huge secret police organization. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #47
Where are the lawsuits? There should be hundreds by now. Midnight Writer Jul 2025 #3
Well, they just fucked with an attorney who knows her rights, Volaris Jul 2025 #14
Keep telling yourself that Hornedfrog2000 Jul 2025 #48
Innocent 'til proven guilty is now undocumented 'til proven a citizen (and no hurry about the last bit) pat_k Jul 2025 #4
I wish she would sue the shit out of them... Fil1957 Jul 2025 #5
She is an attorney PatSeg Jul 2025 #12
But not a criminal attoney LiberalArkie Jul 2025 #20
I guarantee she has friends who are attorneys, too. yardwork Jul 2025 #26
I agree, but I wonder how many months / years for it to work its way through the U.S. court system? LiberalArkie Jul 2025 #30
Detention melm00se Jul 2025 #41
the lack of IDs needs to stop!!! LymphocyteLover Jul 2025 #24
I agree PatSeg Jul 2025 #37
A really stupid move by ICE azureblue Jul 2025 #16
I'm of the belief gerryatwork Jul 2025 #33
Same- what was I hearing or reading yesterday? That the administration... Alice B. Jul 2025 #54
Article says she got an attorney and is claiming racial profiling uponit7771 Jul 2025 #56
The immigrants are practice quakerboy Jul 2025 #6
Let me get this straight...they're not going after anyone in particular????? Ohioboy Jul 2025 #7
Because ICE is falling way behind in fuck face's promise louis-t Jul 2025 #40
I said it before: I cannot write down the movie that is playing in my head about what should happen to these Nazis. NBachers Jul 2025 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Jul 2025 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Jul 2025 #10
It is clear that all nonwhites are now subject to summary arrest dalton99a Jul 2025 #11
No... DET Jul 2025 #15
DET......... Upthevibe Jul 2025 #31
My Bad DET Jul 2025 #32
Note that no illegal whites are being arrested azureblue Jul 2025 #17
Automatically presumed innocent because of color dalton99a Jul 2025 #29
Some are. maxsolomon Jul 2025 #61
Clog the courts SCantiGOP Jul 2025 #13
The problem now is the resources almost have no limit fujiyamasan Jul 2025 #25
Her web page LiberalArkie Jul 2025 #18
What Happened To Our Constitution DallasNE Jul 2025 #19
Trumps government doesn't have to follow the constitution. Kablooie Jul 2025 #42
Heidi Plummer IronLionZion Jul 2025 #21
That's what I thought when I looked her up. JanMichael Jul 2025 #35
But she was in a 95% Hispanic city. They wouldnt do a mass round up in a white area Demovictory9 Jul 2025 #38
I don't disagree with you. They arrested her because she was advising people of their legal rights. IronLionZion Jul 2025 #39
No warrant, no probable cause. Sue their pants off surfered Jul 2025 #22
If this doesn't show you that laws, judges, and the constitution don't matter, then nothing will. Buddyzbuddy Jul 2025 #27
Yes, yes.....but did they make their quota? Red Mountain Jul 2025 #28
So apparently brown hair is all it takes. JanMichael Jul 2025 #34
Sounds criminal! flamingdem Jul 2025 #36
Say it with me now: ICE is a criminal organization sakabatou Jul 2025 #43
The Gestapig strikes again. 😕 Dave Bowman Jul 2025 #44
K & R for exposure SunSeeker Jul 2025 #50
OMG 😡 what the hell 😡 TommieMommy Jul 2025 #53
I'm having a hard time dealing with what I can do other than warn my Latino friends uponit7771 Jul 2025 #58

Initech

(107,410 posts)
1. Holy shit! Fuck these fucking ICE cretins. May they all rot in the hottest of hells.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 12:42 PM
Jul 2025

Fuck Trump and Stephen Miller too.

Irish_Dem

(79,742 posts)
2. Trump is doing this to terrorize the American populace.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 12:43 PM
Jul 2025

It is how fascist leaders control their citizens.

Irish_Dem

(79,742 posts)
55. You are assuming he is normal. He is a vicious, ruthless psychopath.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 11:47 AM
Jul 2025

They kill, torture, destroy just for fun and because they can.
They get off on it and it makes them feel special and powerful.

If you stick to the psych profile you can make very accurate predictions.

maxsolomon

(38,173 posts)
57. I do not assume he's normal. I never have.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 12:19 PM
Jul 2025

I've considered him a repulsive, misogynistic, vulgar toxic narcissist since the 1980s. He's not funny. He's not smart. He is a sociopath with NPD.

He's the worst person in America, top 5 worst people on the planet (Putin exists).

I just don't think his regime will have ICE persecute his rural and suburban cult members - those are the people who'll crowd the square to see us on the gallows.

Irish_Dem

(79,742 posts)
59. Trump and his regime are two different entities.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 12:43 PM
Jul 2025

I am telling you, Trump will kill anyone if it pleases him and he can have some fun with it.

We have been talking about Trump.
His regime is a different beast altogether.

ms liberty

(10,956 posts)
45. Yes but will it work, or will it just end up pissing off Americans, who think rebellion is their birthright?
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 07:39 AM
Jul 2025

I think it will ultimately be the latter. As individuals, Americans really don't like to be pushed around, even by their friends. That's my hope, anyway.

Irish_Dem

(79,742 posts)
47. Trump has the entire US military, National Guard, and huge secret police organization.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 07:56 AM
Jul 2025

Trump holds the cards.

Volaris

(11,382 posts)
14. Well, they just fucked with an attorney who knows her rights,
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 02:34 PM
Jul 2025

So, yeah I'd expect the gestapo to pay dearly defending this one in court...

But you're right, just get grabbed with no Miranda is gonna end up being a really efficient way for these goons to figure out too late they fucked with the wrong person..

 

Hornedfrog2000

(866 posts)
48. Keep telling yourself that
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 08:16 AM
Jul 2025

Hes making entire lawfirms cede to his power, but one lawyer will bring them to their knees.

pat_k

(12,665 posts)
4. Innocent 'til proven guilty is now undocumented 'til proven a citizen (and no hurry about the last bit)
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 01:12 PM
Jul 2025

PatSeg

(52,130 posts)
12. She is an attorney
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 02:09 PM
Jul 2025

So there is a good chance she will sue. These ICE agents are so reckless and their arrests are so random, it is inevitable that they will detain people who will take them to court. Unfortunately, these agents are unidentified, so they can get away with almost anything.

yardwork

(68,961 posts)
26. I guarantee she has friends who are attorneys, too.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 03:33 PM
Jul 2025

The question is: will the Supreme Court let these lawsuits go forward?

LiberalArkie

(19,277 posts)
30. I agree, but I wonder how many months / years for it to work its way through the U.S. court system?
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 03:38 PM
Jul 2025

melm00se

(5,141 posts)
41. Detention
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 06:12 PM
Jul 2025

requires "reasonable suspicion".

Unfortunately, the courts and juries have long accepted some of the weakest ass articulations of fact as grounds for "reasonable suspicion".

Additionally, she will need to be able to identify the specific officer(s) to establish the facts that she was detained beyond her word which is one of the reasons that LEOs will shield their identities.

PatSeg

(52,130 posts)
37. I agree
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 05:20 PM
Jul 2025

It is so in-your-face illegal as if they're saying, "What are you gonna do about it?"

azureblue

(2,662 posts)
16. A really stupid move by ICE
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 02:52 PM
Jul 2025

Now she knows how it works and who is what. And who to sue. She can subpoena anyone involved in the arrest, processing and jailing, and do discovery, and jail anyone who refuses to appear. She now knows names and faces.
Further, unless ICE can prove they are sworn in cops, arresting a person on a specific charge, they can be charged with kidnapping. So I think that is the logical place for her to begin..
She could also say she was there as an attorney to defend anyone who was grabbed up, so that in itself is another crime.

gerryatwork

(97 posts)
33. I'm of the belief
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 04:03 PM
Jul 2025

our democracy is beyond the point of having a lawsuit resolved in anyone’s favor and ICE agents disciplined.

Alice B.

(692 posts)
54. Same- what was I hearing or reading yesterday? That the administration...
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 11:42 AM
Jul 2025

… is running out of bandwidth to address all the incoming lawsuits so if there’s something to sue over, do it!

quakerboy

(14,709 posts)
6. The immigrants are practice
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 01:56 PM
Jul 2025

The rest of us will follow after. And making it indiscriminate like this is just setting the stage.

Ohioboy

(3,858 posts)
7. Let me get this straight...they're not going after anyone in particular?????
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 01:56 PM
Jul 2025

They are just arresting people as they come to them in the park?????????????

There should hundred of law suits!!

louis-t

(24,575 posts)
40. Because ICE is falling way behind in fuck face's promise
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 05:44 PM
Jul 2025

to deport 10 million people in 10 years, they will grab anyone for any infraction, however minor and will make up charges against millions so he can say "promises made, promises kept". I work with a mage crazy who is Mexican. I told him "If I had your last name, I would be nervous." He's convinced no one will come for him.

NBachers

(19,180 posts)
8. I said it before: I cannot write down the movie that is playing in my head about what should happen to these Nazis.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 02:01 PM
Jul 2025

But the reel is still playing on repeat.

Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Response to dalton99a (Reply #9)

DET

(2,368 posts)
15. No...
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 02:41 PM
Jul 2025

It is clear that anyone anywhere is now subject to summary arrest. The woman in question is white.

Upthevibe

(10,021 posts)
31. DET.........
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 03:44 PM
Jul 2025

Are you talking about someone else? This is in the article:

"Plummer, who is half-Ecuadorian, began advising people of their rights after agents handcuffed her. In Spanish, she told those arrested by ICE not to answer any questions and to ask for a lawyer."

DET

(2,368 posts)
32. My Bad
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 03:57 PM
Jul 2025

I just read the excerpt, not the entire article. Also looked the woman up; she did not look ‘ethnic’ and her name is not Hispanic, so I assumed she was white. You know what happens when you assume…

But give it six months and Trump’s Gestapo will be grabbing anyone they can find and terrorize.

azureblue

(2,662 posts)
17. Note that no illegal whites are being arrested
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 02:54 PM
Jul 2025

Like illegal Russians, Brits, etc. 660.000 at last count..

SCantiGOP

(14,664 posts)
13. Clog the courts
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 02:33 PM
Jul 2025

Every US citizen who is arrested or even threatened by ICE needs to file suit, so these assholes can spend their time in court instead of violating people’s rights. If they don’t have the money, most cities have an organization like the ACLU that will represent them or refer them to an attorney who will take the case for free.
Part of the strategy in the 60s with the non-violent protests and mass arrests was to fill up the jails and courts, which not only brought attention to the issue but also prevented future mass arrests due to a lack of resources.

fujiyamasan

(1,226 posts)
25. The problem now is the resources almost have no limit
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 03:26 PM
Jul 2025

One of the intentions of the nasty bill was to create a police state.

They are hiring as many proud boys, and assorted thugs they can find to fill these ICE and CBP roles.

The Supreme Court has greenlit all of what is going on.

DallasNE

(7,958 posts)
19. What Happened To Our Constitution
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 02:56 PM
Jul 2025

That taught us innocent until proven guilty? Has it gone up in smoke? And due process? I don't recognize this America. I want the other one back.

Kablooie

(19,041 posts)
42. Trumps government doesn't have to follow the constitution.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 12:37 AM
Jul 2025

It is truly a different kind of government from anything American has known.
Trump thinks it now belongs to him and Republicans and scotus agree with him

Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
38. But she was in a 95% Hispanic city. They wouldnt do a mass round up in a white area
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 05:32 PM
Jul 2025

Yes whites will get caught up but this is a Latino targeted operation

IronLionZion

(50,817 posts)
39. I don't disagree with you. They arrested her because she was advising people of their legal rights.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 05:44 PM
Jul 2025

They will arrest white US citizens without hesitation. They can hold US citizens for 48 hours without charges. Or they can make some BS charge of "resisting arrest" or "assault".

Buddyzbuddy

(2,112 posts)
27. If this doesn't show you that laws, judges, and the constitution don't matter, then nothing will.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 03:34 PM
Jul 2025

JanMichael

(25,725 posts)
34. So apparently brown hair is all it takes.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 04:09 PM
Jul 2025

Everyone should grab peroxide and blond the country up.

flamingdem

(40,793 posts)
36. Sounds criminal!
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 04:12 PM
Jul 2025

In her spare time, Ms. Plummer loves to workout, read, volunteer, bake, and spend time with her loved ones.

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