That old guard will tell you who they will support and it is their choice not the peoples choice that they will support. They, old guard, want to maintain control total control.

"Mamdani’s allies, notably key leaders of the Democratic Socialists of America, are talking about running primary challengers against Jeffries and several other incumbents, including Reps. Ritchie Torres, Jerry Nadler, Dan Goldman and Yvette Clarke."

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/09/politics/hakeem-jeffries-zohran-mamdani-democrats-primaries

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I guess what is good for the goose is the gander. Or what goes around comes around.

Knowing what we know, it makes a lot of sense that these things have been rather perfunctory and merely polite. (Reminding me a lot of how some circles "endorsed" and "congratulated" Hillary as well as Kamala when they were nominated.)

Seems like an important distinction.

I have friends and political allies that would similarly like to primary Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries.

They’re not the democratically elected Democratic nominee for NYC who just won the Democratic primary.

How about this. Jerry Nadler has endorsed Zorhan Mamdani, and they want to primary him? The only reason I can think of that isn't because Nadler's liberal credentials, because his voting record is left liberal:

https://ontheissues.org/NY/Jerrold_Nadler.htm

I suspect it is because of his religion.

Perhaps they should look in the mirror at themselves before they start throwing stones. Where was the DSA in 2016 and 2024 when the stakes were so critical. Their actions contributed to the Supreme Court we have today, by those who either voted third party or didn't vote.

Just go to the DSA site and read their statements on VP Harris verses trump in 2024. They actually encouraged people NOT to vote for either one. Such garbage.

Haven't got it yet but reviews and comments I have seen said the conclusion was mainly that DNC and old guard leadership not listening was major part of failures in 2024. We blow it in 2026, not sure where we go. Can't just run on "Trump bad, we better" and think we will win. If that worked we'd have Kamala in the WH right now and probably Congress too.

They didn't like they guy we chose so they ran a 3rd party spoiler and helped elect Marco Rubio.

That was the only time (so far) I've seen DU allow a 3rd party to campaign against the Democratic candidate.

India Walton won the primary, but Byron won the general as the write in candidate. Byron didn't even finish his term. The weasels loved that

I'd ask another one:

Why are people who have nothing to do with NYC politics doing messing around with the Mayor's race in NYC? Isn't that the job of the people who are in that city and who will do the actual voting.

Who has time to mess with other people's candidates from cities, states, or districts we have nothing to do with. Maybe we should ALL look a little closer to home and see to it that our own areas elect the best possible Democrats to office. Just maybe.

New York City's Mayoral race? None of my freaking business. I think New Yorkers can handle that for themselves, don't you?

You have never had an interest in or opinion on an election that you couldn't vote on? Be serious.

If a Democrat contributes to the campaign of a candidate who has won the primary, and is now in the general election, that can be a good thing.

If a Democrat contributes to the campaign of an opponent of our party's candidate, that can never be a good thing.

That does not mean that I get involved in those.

Instead, I have always worked to help elect candidates where I am. I don't do as much of that, now that I'm pushing 80 years in age. But, I'm still involved. For me, my time and donations have more impact on local races than on races elsewhere. So, the local races are my primary focus.

As for New York City, I have nothing to offer there. I don't know the politics, the candidates, nor the issues. I live half a country away from there. We have our own issues here in the Twin Cities. I currently live in a community that wobbles back and forth between Democratic and Republican elected officials. If I can help it wobble to the left, then I have actually done something that means something.

I'm going to let NYC votes decide for themselves. I'm confident a Democrat will be the Mayor. Which one? I'm not sure how much that matters in the larger scheme of things.

I try to put my limited energy into things where that energy can actually make a difference. That's what I have always done. And it has made a difference.

Democrats live in New York State, though not in the city. Yet who is mayor in NYC has an influence on the rest of the state.

It can be a good thing for people to be aware of what is going on outside of their surroundings. It is a bad trend for our party when Democrats -- either in office or not -- advocate against our party's nominees. If it happens in NYC, it will spread unless we crush it.

Not that many years ago, although I have never been in Florida, much less been there, I did speech writing for a good Democrat running for Congress. Democrats today at the grass roots level need to fight on every level. The last thing we need is the stick-in-the-mud attitude that, say, if Andrew Cuomo runs for mayor on a third party ticket -- an idea seemingly back by some "leaders" who are far, far out of touch with the voters -- that it is anything other than a horrible idea, that could spread across the country.

The corporate Democrats do not like what the progressive Democrats stand for,and the people of the democratic party want the progressive wing of the party. Look the corporate Dems do not have raising the minimum wage in their main platform! People want more things going for the people and not corporations.

Especially when big donors threaten to withhold big donations.

The abolitionist's abandoned the party and developed parallel power structures to serve in place of those that were not responsive to their needs or goals. The Whig Party disappeared due to it's inability to address it's constituents' needs.

The current Democratic Party is in danger of meeting the same end.

And I don't think Mamdani had their influence.

I thought Hogg decided not to run again after a DNC procedural error voided the election for vice chair.

The Tennessee Holler: "Yelling the truth about Tennessee."

While Hogg was running around making enemies of allies, Kenyatta was busy trying to win them over.

Because he has expressed interest in helping his constituents, not the DNC's (millionaires and billionaires)constituents.

This is not a massive big deal war that the DSA party wants to make it out to be.

I also don't believe Mamdani needs Democratic Party electeds approval. Seriously - why would he need the approval of Gottheimer? What's in it for him to get a problem solver's endorsement?

Their entire business is claiming to be a victim and spreading conspiracy about the powers holding them down or some shit. This is also why certain "pro Palestine" people wanted Trump ton win.

After all the talk about going to red areas why aren't they doing this in NYC ? I know NYC is blue but they could go to republican voters to get their votes.

This:

criticism of that government.

He will endorse him, in the end.

He will pick up those republicans that are forced to vote republican becsuse the democratic candidates are not left enough.

But now there is a candidate that is socialist so they will come out to vote for him.

only believe that when it’s a candidate they like.