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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAIPAC is part of the constellation of forces that delivered 🇺🇸 into the hands of Trump and Stephen Miller."
Ex Obama Advisor Ben Rhodes on Pod Save: "If you think you can continue to take💰from AIPAC @RepJeffries or @SenSchumer or whomever AIPAC is part of the constellation of forces that delivered 🇺🇸 into the hands of Trump and Stephen Miller.
Ex Obama Advisor Ben Rhodes on Pod Save: "If you think you can continue to takeð°from AIPAC â @RepJeffries or @SenSchumer or whomever â AIPAC is part of the constellation of forces that delivered ðºð¸ into the hands of Trump and Stephen Miller.â
— The Tennessee Holler (@thetnholler.bsky.social) 2025-07-09T16:06:23.587Z
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=aimKKFIUKb7qfH4a&t=803&v=x96_k7rGTNE&feature=youtu.be
aocommunalpunch
(4,551 posts)Thats it. Get the money out.
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)AIPAC contributed more to Democrats in 2024 than Republicans, by a margin of 60% to 40%
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/american-israel-public-affairs-cmte/recipients?id=D000046963
Surely this is proof positive that AIPAC delivered America into the hands of Trump and Miller.
Democrats, beware of Jew money. The only thing that matters. And too bad for the facts .
IrishBubbaLiberal
(2,561 posts)Exactly whats happening.
Lots of corrupt Money to vote against what is best for AMERICAN INTERESTS
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)figure out who they support and why without helpful comments from @trackaipac? BTW, who the hell are they and why does their opinion determine what AIPAC is all about? Why don't they object to NRA money? Or big pharma money? Or Musk's money?
It's like they don't particularly give a shit about what's best for American interests, with one very conspicuous exception.
IrishBubbaLiberal
(2,561 posts)Israeli Map Indicates Want To Hold More Than 60% Of Gaza - PBS Reporter On X Citing Senior Official
— LiveSquawk (@livesquawknews.bsky.social) 2025-07-09T19:16:55.512Z
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)swears there is a map somewhere that indicates Israel wants to hold more than 60% of Gaza.
Truly, sourcing beyond reproach!
IrishBubbaLiberal
(2,561 posts)https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-palestinians-concept-paper-1.7015576
Leaked document fuels concern Israel plans to push Palestinians from Gaza into Egypt
Israel says concept paper isn't policy, but Palestinians fear ethnic cleansing
CBC News · Posted: Nov 01, 2023 5:22 PM CDT | Last Updated: November 10, 2023
An Israeli government document suggesting the mass relocation of Gaza's 2.3 million people to Egypt's Sinai Peninsula is fuelling concerns about the possible ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.
The leaked document, first reported in Israeli media, was compiled by an Israeli government research agency known as the Intelligence Ministry and was dated Oct. 13 six days after Hamas led deadly attacks on Israel and the Israeli government declared war against the Palestinian militant group, which controls Gaza.
Although not a binding policy, it has deepened long-standing Egyptian fears that Israel wants to make Gaza into Egypt's problem and revived Palestinians' memories of the displacement of hundreds of thousands of people who fled or were forced from their homes during the fighting surrounding Israel's creation in 1948, which Palestinians refer to as the Nakba, the Arabic word for catastrophe.
"What happened in 1948 will not be allowed to happen again," Nabil Abu Rudeineh, spokesperson for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, told The Associated Press in reaction to the paper.
He said a mass displacement of Palestinians would be "tantamount to declaring a new war."
WATCH | Israeli document weighs possible outcomes for population of Gaza:
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)someone on Bsky telling you about someone on X saying that someone purporting to be a senior official swears there is a map somewhere that indicates Israel wants to hold more than 60% of Gaza?
No?
IrishBubbaLiberal
(2,561 posts)https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/middleeast/israel-far-right-gaza-settler-movement-cmd-intl
Israels far-right wants to move Palestinians out of Gaza. Its ideas are gaining attention
Mick Krever Jomana Karadsheh
By Mick Krever, Jomana Karadsheh, Ami Kaufman, and Abeer Salman, CNN
9 minute read
Published 3:05 AM EST, Wed January 17, 2024
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)You, on the other hand, are ignoring the facts and deflecting to something that is way of the topic of this thread.
And guess what, I am not biting.
Eko
(9,811 posts)I'm sure I can find the time when you said you had the text of the cease fire between Israel and Hamas but wouldn't share it. So whatever.
What do I not do at all?
Did I ignore the facts or did I not post them for all to see?
And if I am not biting on one deflection that has nothing to do with the topic of the thread, what makes you think I will bite on a different, more nutty deflection that has nothing to do with the thread?
Deminpenn
(17,289 posts)supporters of Israel ala John Fetterman. Two cycles ago they spent a lot of money trying to unseat Summer Lee by backing another Dem who supported Isreal in the Dem primary, but he lost to her.
dsc
(53,321 posts)They spent boatload of money in some of our primaries and the gave to more gop reps than dems
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)These are the general elections figures that you are wondering about. And they show, with real numbers, not speculations, that "they" (presumably AIPAC) gave a boatload more money to Democrats than they did to Republicans.
PufPuf23
(9,706 posts)Look at the chart at the link; 200 GOP members of the House and only 135 Democratic members.
Obvious conclude that the disparity between GOP and Democrat in office is because far more GOP are rural and Democratic urban.
But one House member, one vote.
Facts are spun.
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)Discounting all other statistics except the number or House recipients, like the total contribitions to House candidates almost double for Dems that those for Reps, and the number of recipients and the totals in the Senate, and ignoring the overall contributions, is certainly a blatant spin.
PufPuf23
(9,706 posts)Some only exhibit a spin cycle.
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)multiple dimention is a mystery to me.
But I don't doubt that some might see things in a twelve-dimentional universe unknown to mere mortals.
karynnj
(60,777 posts)responsible for the US government giving Israel more leeway than any other country. They are one of many forces that make it politically dangerous to criticize Israel.
I do think Rhodes could be correct in a very runabout way. The Biden administration was very slow to publicly call for a real ceasefire/ end of war. Biden's initial response which was to warmly and with his typical empathy sympathize with Israel in the wake of Oct 7. was masterful. From the beginning he included a warning that they be careful not to make the mistakes we did when we were attacked.
Before the end of 2023, Biden negotiated the largest return of hostages. It may be that neither side then negotiated in good faith, but the sheer destruction in Gaza was atrocious. My guess is that it was partially a political decision not to push harder.
Deminpenn
(17,289 posts)Rholdes is no longer an insider, but he's likely correct about big dollar donors such as AIPAC.
mountain grammy
(28,676 posts)Bernie Sanders, who is Jewish, has spoken out against AIPAC for a long time.. I believe he is also correct..Israel is a wealthy country and yet America provides more than $3billion in military aid per year and we put no restrictions on how its spent.. thats AIPACs influence which has also guided the reaction of some Democrats to the primary results in NYC. Israel should stay out of American politics.
pecosbob
(8,308 posts)Who should decide which do or do not align? The voters. I would recommend a policy of transparency...in fact I would want to see them trumpet the names of those that choose to align with those democratic goals.
Sewa
(1,572 posts)campaign donations in 2024 cycle should be primaried. Period! 🤮💀
Cha
(316,717 posts)Voted 3rd party... Contributed to this Shit. some of them even told us to "Enjoy trump"
They were out there screaming Genocide Joe" and Killer Kamala"... and now look what we have.
I don't care what Ben Rhodes says.
Passages
(3,986 posts)That is not an endorsement of AIPAC btw.
Middle East policies from the US have been catastrophic for a long, long time.
Like climate change, I seriously doubt much will change, and I say that with the deepest regret.
We have caused a great deal of misery in the world.
questionseverything
(11,539 posts)But his catholic upbringing is probably the main reason for his Isreal policy
Not meaning any of that to be a bad thing, just how I see it
Passages
(3,986 posts)I agree he had different influences.
tritsofme
(19,795 posts)Frankly, I dont give a fuck about anything he has to say.