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IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 03:24 PM Jul 2025

Israeli Map Indicates Will STEAL More Than 60% Of Gaza land from Palestinians


Israeli Map Indicates Want To Hold More Than 60% Of Gaza - PBS Reporter On X Citing Senior Official

Israeli Map Indicates Want To Hold More Than 60% Of Gaza - PBS Reporter On X Citing Senior Official

LiveSquawk (@livesquawknews.bsky.social) 2025-07-09T19:16:55.512Z
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Israeli Map Indicates Will STEAL More Than 60% Of Gaza land from Palestinians (Original Post) IrishBubbaLiberal Jul 2025 OP
And what remains of the West Bank? Kid Berwyn Jul 2025 #1
It is always about land and resource theft malaise Jul 2025 #2
Gaza's greatest resource, by far, is the natural gas deposits in its territorial waters, not on land Beastly Boy Jul 2025 #6
They want to colonize it like the West Bank... Wounded Bear Jul 2025 #3
Can you put that in regular English, "LiveSquawk"? maxsolomon Jul 2025 #4
Great. Someone on Bsky telling you Beastly Boy Jul 2025 #5
"The silence on this post is telling" maxsolomon Jul 2025 #7
I like assuming that somebody, no matter how cray-cray they sound, Igel Jul 2025 #8
Unlikely, but possible. Beastly Boy Jul 2025 #9
Link to the PBS report please, as I do not trust rando social media anons. TIA Celerity Jul 2025 #10
Israeli-American genocide scholar Omer Bartov thinks 75% muriel_volestrangler Jul 2025 #11
When you lose a war, you often lose territory Jose Garcia Jul 2025 #12
Israel has already made John Farmer Jul 2025 #13
 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
6. Gaza's greatest resource, by far, is the natural gas deposits in its territorial waters, not on land
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 04:07 PM
Jul 2025

Israel shows no interest in that resource, but it does show interest in where Israel's greatest resources, the hostages abducted by Hamas are, and how to get them home.

Does it surprise you that IDF is fighting Hamas on land, where Israel's stolen resources are and not at sea, where Gazan greatest resource is?

Wounded Bear

(63,948 posts)
3. They want to colonize it like the West Bank...
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 03:32 PM
Jul 2025

Been kind of obvious from the start. Destroy the infrastructure, move the Palestinians out, and move the Israelis in.

maxsolomon

(38,352 posts)
4. Can you put that in regular English, "LiveSquawk"?
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 03:47 PM
Jul 2025

What Israeli Map? Hold 60% of Gaza for what? Which PBS Reporter? Which Israeli "Senior Official"?

You can do better than this, IBL.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
5. Great. Someone on Bsky telling you
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 04:01 PM
Jul 2025

about someone on X saying that someone purporting to be a senior official swears there is an Israeli map somewhere that indicates Israel wants to hold more than 60% of Gaza.

Must be god's honest truth!

Igel

(37,424 posts)
8. I like assuming that somebody, no matter how cray-cray they sound,
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 06:03 PM
Jul 2025

really is trying to state something that's propositionally meaningful and true (from their POV).

Today's map shows the IDF in operational control of about 60% of Gaza.

Perhaps "holds" and "wants to hold" merged in somebody's notebook.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
9. Unlikely, but possible.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 06:47 PM
Jul 2025

Either way, I would rather see the map than read about someone telling someone that they heard from someone of the existence of that map.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,786 posts)
11. Israeli-American genocide scholar Omer Bartov thinks 75%
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 09:39 AM
Jul 2025
Omer Bartov is an Israeli-American historian and one of the foremost scholars on genocide in the world. He has spent over 25 years teaching a class on the subject. He deals with atrocities for a living, analyzing some of the very worst things that human beings are capable of. And yet even Bartov has said he can’t bear looking at some of the excruciating images coming out of Gaza any more.

What’s happening, Bartov says, is unprecedented in the 21st century. “I don’t know of any comparable situation. Recent estimates show that about 70% of the structures in Gaza are either completely destroyed or severely damaged,” Bartov says. “The argument that the IDF [Israel Defense Forces] is conducting a war in Gaza is simply cynical, there is no war in Gaza. What the IDF is doing in Gaza is demolishing it. Hundreds of buildings are being bulldozed every week. This is not a secret, but mainstream media coverage has been insufficient.”
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All this bulldozing comes with a very clear end goal. “Israeli government officials and media have made [their plans] fairly public,” says Bartov, who, like many other respected scholars, characterises what is happening in Gaza as a genocide. “What they appear to be aiming for – and are in the process of implementing – is for the IDF to take over roughly 75% of the Gaza Strip and demolish it entirely, with bombs and bulldozers, many of which are massive D9s recently imported from the US. The goal seems to be to concentrate the entire Gazan population into the remaining 25% of the territory, in the al-Mawasi area, and to debilitate them to the extent that they either flee, are permitted to leave or simply wither away.”

I had this conversation with Bartov a few weeks ago. Now lawmakers are being even more brazen about their plans: defence minister Israel Katz has said they plan to concentrate people in Gaza into an internment camp on the rubble of Rafah.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/09/bulldzoer-gaza-genocide-idf-meta
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