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turbinetree

(26,998 posts)
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 10:05 AM Jul 2025

'It's miserable:' ICE 'morale in crapper' as agents forced to 'arrest gardeners'

By Alexander Willis
Published July 10, 2025 10:45 AM ET

As Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents embark on countless deportation raids in an effort to meet the White House’s daily arrest quota of 3,000, many officers are becoming completely demoralized, several agents told Nick Miroff with The Atlantic.

“Morale is in the crapper,” a former ICE agent told Miroff on the condition of anonymity out of fear of repercussions. “Even those that are gung ho about the mission aren’t happy with how they are asking to execute it – the quotas and the shift to the low-hanging fruit to make the numbers.”

President Donald Trump, along with nearly all Republican members of Congress, recently gave ICE a staggering bump in its budget in the budget reconciliation package known as the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. The bill increased annual spending for the agency to $37.5 billion, making ICE’s budget higher than the military budgets of all but 15 countries, including the United States.

https://www.rawstory.com/ice-2673063565/

These people made there bed, they knew exactly what was happening there are two words that people understand yes or no...........and they mostly said yes to do this shit

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'It's miserable:' ICE 'morale in crapper' as agents forced to 'arrest gardeners' (Original Post) turbinetree Jul 2025 OP
Exactly. You shat your own bed, you can lie in it. Current ICE agents will be all but unemployable under future admins. eppur_se_muova Jul 2025 #1
I hope they have horrific nightmares every single night for decades. nt Justice matters. Jul 2025 #17
I'll bet there are a substantial number of them that are relishing it. everyonematters Jul 2025 #2
Nasty, mean spirited and an over abundance of male toxicity are prerequisite for job application. jrthin Jul 2025 #6
So the 100k wannabe backyard UFC fucks lmao n/t Cheezoholic Jul 2025 #20
Absolutely! SheltieLover Jul 2025 #35
At bdamomma Jul 2025 #25
Exactly! *None* of them were drafted into the job. Heidi Jul 2025 #57
They're going to pay them enough to relish it Prairie Gates Jul 2025 #3
I think the vast majority of them get off on the cruelty and enjoy their jobs. BannonsLiver Jul 2025 #4
Did they 'not see' themselves in the mirror? C_U_L8R Jul 2025 #5
No, because they wear a mask outside...nt róisín_dubh Jul 2025 #10
Hey traitor, you're getting paid tax payer money to be a shitty person, act like a man, no whining. nt Hotler Jul 2025 #7
But the pay is too good to quit the job. kentuck Jul 2025 #8
Trump will have to fill the ranks by pardoning more (Aryan) thugs. Ping Tung Jul 2025 #9
Don't believe it awesomerwb1 Jul 2025 #11
It's a matter of time before they face armed resistance Johnny2X2X Jul 2025 #12
Yeah, they think they're "miserable" NOW? Just wait. Grokenstein Jul 2025 #16
Maybe the morale drmeow Jul 2025 #65
They will quit and rejoin as soon as they're eligible for the $10k signing bonus newdeal2 Jul 2025 #13
Poor babies, for years their union undermined the Dem administrations, fixtures on Fox, while UTUSN Jul 2025 #14
If you don't like being a Nazi, stop being a gd Nazi. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #15
Nobody is forcing them to work for the Gestapo dalton99a Jul 2025 #18
They're not nearly miserable enough Arazi Jul 2025 #19
use words they'll understand Marthe48 Jul 2025 #37
She said these people believe they're heroes and doing important things Arazi Jul 2025 #41
Scabby the Rat Nasruddin Jul 2025 #40
This is interesting advice LearnedHand Jul 2025 #51
Jenn Budd is on Bluesky Arazi Jul 2025 #52
Thanks -- I had never heard of her LearnedHand Jul 2025 #53
She blew the whistle on being a Border Patrol agent. Dixiegrrrl Jul 2025 #59
Eff 'em! If the rest of Govt Employees have to dread each new day tonekat Jul 2025 #21
Those so called bdamomma Jul 2025 #22
Do the world a favor and blow your Nazi brains out, assholes. Every damn one of you. Put that big gun to use. NBachers Jul 2025 #23
wearing a mask in the summer can't be comfortable maxsolomon Jul 2025 #24
Good. durablend Jul 2025 #26
This sounds suspiciously like "We were just following orders." sop Jul 2025 #27
It will with this SCOTUS. RockRaven Jul 2025 #30
So quit already Half-step Jul 2025 #28
Brownshirts crying about not having enough fun brownshirting. RockRaven Jul 2025 #29
They're sad because good people are calling them Nazis instead of heroes LuvLoogie Jul 2025 #31
Good! Ray Bruns Jul 2025 #32
So quit. Demobrat Jul 2025 #33
Not to worry, they'll soon hire many more agents who will be very pleased to be brutal to productive, innocent people. unblock Jul 2025 #34
Yeah, well. Boo-fucking-hoo... (nt) Paladin Jul 2025 #36
They can always quit. Diamond_Dog Jul 2025 #38
Waste fraud and abuse Nasruddin Jul 2025 #39
Life is hard when it takes 6 agents to give a beat-down to a 5'5" middle aged gardener... Hekate Jul 2025 #42
YOUR CHILDREN WILL KNOW WHAT YOU DID!!! ret5hd Jul 2025 #43
ICE: Les Misrables? Au contraire, they should be PROUD of the Traditions they are Upholding SorellaLaBefana Jul 2025 #44
well boo fucking whoo barbtries Jul 2025 #45
All that military gear they wear must be hot eh? pwb Jul 2025 #46
Womp womp Unbitten Jul 2025 #47
Good Lulu KC Jul 2025 #48
Let them find honest work wryter2000 Jul 2025 #49
I hope whatever they do haunts them for life... Chakaconcarne Jul 2025 #50
They need to be shunned from their communities electricmonk Jul 2025 #54
Screw them and their 'morale' Ruby the Liberal Jul 2025 #55
That's what you get for letting a lunatic fringe propaganda channel do your critical thinking for you. Initech Jul 2025 #56
I'll believe it when we see mass resignations. Heidi Jul 2025 #58
I worry about many things. ICE morale is not one of them. malthaussen Jul 2025 #60
Kick, kick, kick! Heidi Jul 2025 #61
Aww, poor ICE bros are miserable. Reader Rabbit Jul 2025 #62
Giving domestic terrorism a whole new meaning. Heidi Jul 2025 #64
Thoughts and prayers, fuckers, Conjuay Jul 2025 #63
If their morale is so bad and their consciences are battered . . . peggysue2 Jul 2025 #66

eppur_se_muova

(41,009 posts)
1. Exactly. You shat your own bed, you can lie in it. Current ICE agents will be all but unemployable under future admins.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 10:09 AM
Jul 2025

everyonematters

(4,024 posts)
2. I'll bet there are a substantial number of them that are relishing it.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 10:17 AM
Jul 2025

What person wants to be an ICE agent to begin with.

jrthin

(5,215 posts)
6. Nasty, mean spirited and an over abundance of male toxicity are prerequisite for job application.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 10:21 AM
Jul 2025

Prairie Gates

(7,212 posts)
3. They're going to pay them enough to relish it
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 10:19 AM
Jul 2025

Like all henchmen and mercenaries, they just need more money. These people have no principles to begin with. They want the summer home and the jet ski. The GOP Congress and Trump are going to give it to them. They'll swallow their scruples with a steak dinner and two fingers of Pappy. Not bad for an associates degree and a gym membership.

Hotler

(13,737 posts)
7. Hey traitor, you're getting paid tax payer money to be a shitty person, act like a man, no whining. nt
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 10:21 AM
Jul 2025

awesomerwb1

(4,988 posts)
11. Don't believe it
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 10:35 AM
Jul 2025

And with the incredible amount of money ICE just got, one can assume the bounties will get even larger which will attract all the bounty hunters they will need.

Johnny2X2X

(23,693 posts)
12. It's a matter of time before they face armed resistance
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 10:39 AM
Jul 2025

They are part of a truly evil organization, people are going to fight back soon.

drmeow

(5,929 posts)
65. Maybe the morale
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 10:00 AM
Jul 2025

is low because they suddenly realized they might be the ones who get hurt for a change!

newdeal2

(4,803 posts)
13. They will quit and rejoin as soon as they're eligible for the $10k signing bonus
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 10:40 AM
Jul 2025

I’d like to believe otherwise…

UTUSN

(76,978 posts)
14. Poor babies, for years their union undermined the Dem administrations, fixtures on Fox, while
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 11:08 AM
Jul 2025

scarfing up on the job security, pay the best of their possibility, and great benefits, while stoking their egos with the glam testosterone image.





Arazi

(8,708 posts)
19. They're not nearly miserable enough
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 12:20 PM
Jul 2025

Jenn Budd a former DHS and CBP agent suggests openly mocking them. Humiliate them and make the job psychologically hurt.

These folks see themselves as warrior types and the best way to defang them is to shame them - call them Nazis, small dicks, collaborators etc which additionally makes the job look less attractive to potential recruits.

Marthe48

(22,736 posts)
37. use words they'll understand
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 01:30 PM
Jul 2025

Collaborators might be above their reading level. Maybe backstabber. Or rat. Or bully.

Arazi

(8,708 posts)
41. She said these people believe they're heroes and doing important things
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 01:53 PM
Jul 2025

So she suggests specifically targeting their beliefs on the value of what their doing, their internalized messaging on how brave/heroic/macho/important they are.

Shame them and the mission. Belittle them. Call them cowards and traitors. Attack their manhood (she specifically suggested calling them pussies).

Nasruddin

(1,178 posts)
40. Scabby the Rat
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 01:51 PM
Jul 2025

Maybe something like the labor union inflatable rat is needed
Something big, that would attract attention but at the same time non-threatening to normies and humorous.

Dixiegrrrl

(180 posts)
59. She blew the whistle on being a Border Patrol agent.
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 04:29 AM
Jul 2025

Got the full brunt of male agents attacking her.
Might want to check out Wikipedia for more details.

tonekat

(2,452 posts)
21. Eff 'em! If the rest of Govt Employees have to dread each new day
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 12:24 PM
Jul 2025

Than they can suffer too!!

bdamomma

(69,176 posts)
22. Those so called
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 12:28 PM
Jul 2025

ICE (Jan 6th Insurrectionists) are nothing but damaged men who are taking orders from other damaged men, like the felon and Stephen Miller. Damn them all!!!!

NBachers

(19,187 posts)
23. Do the world a favor and blow your Nazi brains out, assholes. Every damn one of you. Put that big gun to use.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 12:29 PM
Jul 2025

sop

(17,471 posts)
27. This sounds suspiciously like "We were just following orders."
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 12:39 PM
Jul 2025

The Superior Orders defense didn't work at Nuremberg, it won't work when these ICE goons go on trial.

LuvLoogie

(8,535 posts)
31. They're sad because good people are calling them Nazis instead of heroes
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 12:49 PM
Jul 2025

and shitty people are calling them heroes.

Word must be getting out to friends and family, that cousin JD is an Ice agent.

Demobrat

(10,263 posts)
33. So quit.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 01:06 PM
Jul 2025

You’re not in the military. You can pull the mask off and walk away any time you want.

unblock

(55,932 posts)
34. Not to worry, they'll soon hire many more agents who will be very pleased to be brutal to productive, innocent people.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 01:06 PM
Jul 2025

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
42. Life is hard when it takes 6 agents to give a beat-down to a 5'5" middle aged gardener...
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 01:55 PM
Jul 2025
We all saw how he was resisting arrest — every time they slugged him with arms and fists like pistons his body jerked. My sympathies to the agents who had to perform that task.

It’s some tough shit when it takes 6 masked heavily armed agents to snatch a pretty girl on her way to college. Were they required to rape her too? Or does that happen in the camps?

Likewise 6-on-1 to grab a mother picking figs in her own front yard. My heart just bleeds for those men. They clearly have no choice in the matter.

Oh the poor, poor babies.

ret5hd

(22,202 posts)
43. YOUR CHILDREN WILL KNOW WHAT YOU DID!!!
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 01:57 PM
Jul 2025

remember that, you fuckin’ cretins…your children will know!

SorellaLaBefana

(482 posts)
44. ICE: Les Misrables? Au contraire, they should be PROUD of the Traditions they are Upholding
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 02:04 PM
Jul 2025

More than 70 years after the liberation of Rome, the artworks that captured the Nazi’s nine-month occupation still resonate as strongly as ever...

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jul/25/liberation-of-rome-italian-imagination

After all, when Great Leader was asked at the recent performance of Les Miz if he identified more with Jean Valijean (whose life was destroyed by having stolen bread for his starving family) or with Inspector Javert who repeatedly destroyed his and so many other people's lives—He said "That's a tough one"

Interesting comment (right up there with "Good People on Both Sides" referring to Nazis and their victims in Charlottesville during his First Imperium) which almost left one with the feeling that Supreme Leader had perhaps even less knowledge of Les Misérables than of his multiply demonstrated unfamiliarity the Christian Bible


Above image is of Great Leader holding up a bible in front of an Episcopal Church after having goons without nametags clear the court yard around the White House in 2020 after cowering in the WH Bunker all day in fear of a peaceful protest.

He seems to have missed the message "All Are Welcome" (now actually ILLEAGAL to say in Idaho!) on the Church's notice board.
...While going to church holding a Bible as a prop to signify piety was not invented by Donald Trump, it probably was never carried off so badly...

https://tennesseelookout.com/2020/06/08/commentary-second-thoughts-on-biblegate/




barbtries

(31,135 posts)
45. well boo fucking whoo
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 02:11 PM
Jul 2025

quit and join #TheOpposition if it's that bad, and you fucking know well it is.

pwb

(12,465 posts)
46. All that military gear they wear must be hot eh?
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 02:16 PM
Jul 2025

Those little gardeners are scary. They could be armed with rakes?

electricmonk

(2,015 posts)
54. They need to be shunned from their communities
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 08:29 PM
Jul 2025

of course I imagine that they recruit in one town and then send them to another town/state to avoid just that issue. Either way if someone finds out a person works for ICE in any capacity from those doing street arrests to flying the kidnap planes to those working in the camps they need to be shunned and made to feel unwelcome in every aspect of daily life. Kick them out of the bar, don't invite them to the cookout, send them a lump of coal for Christmas whatever it takes.

Initech

(107,461 posts)
56. That's what you get for letting a lunatic fringe propaganda channel do your critical thinking for you.
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 12:04 AM
Jul 2025

Fuck ICE!

malthaussen

(18,404 posts)
60. I worry about many things. ICE morale is not one of them.
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 07:50 AM
Jul 2025

In the immortal words of "Mule Skinner Blues," "If you don't like your job, put the buck-buck-bucket down."

-- Mal

Reader Rabbit

(2,746 posts)
62. Aww, poor ICE bros are miserable.
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 09:50 AM
Jul 2025

Well, boo f***ing hoo, you psychopathic hypocrites. At least you get to go home to your families at the end of the working day, unlike all the people you're terrorizing.

peggysue2

(12,389 posts)
66. If their morale is so bad and their consciences are battered . . .
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 10:48 AM
Jul 2025

They could make the choice to simply stand down.

I'm not seeing a sense of depression or hesitation in the film footage available. On the contrary, these goons appear gung-ho in beating down the next brown-skinned gardener.

ICE is hated because they're doing hateful, lawless things.

Excuse me if I have little sympathy for Nazis kidnappers.

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