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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'It's miserable:' ICE 'morale in crapper' as agents forced to 'arrest gardeners'
By Alexander Willis
Published July 10, 2025 10:45 AM ET
As Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents embark on countless deportation raids in an effort to meet the White Houses daily arrest quota of 3,000, many officers are becoming completely demoralized, several agents told Nick Miroff with The Atlantic.
Morale is in the crapper, a former ICE agent told Miroff on the condition of anonymity out of fear of repercussions. Even those that are gung ho about the mission arent happy with how they are asking to execute it the quotas and the shift to the low-hanging fruit to make the numbers.
President Donald Trump, along with nearly all Republican members of Congress, recently gave ICE a staggering bump in its budget in the budget reconciliation package known as the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. The bill increased annual spending for the agency to $37.5 billion, making ICEs budget higher than the military budgets of all but 15 countries, including the United States.
https://www.rawstory.com/ice-2673063565/
These people made there bed, they knew exactly what was happening there are two words that people understand yes or no...........and they mostly said yes to do this shit
eppur_se_muova
(41,009 posts)Justice matters.
(9,413 posts)everyonematters
(4,024 posts)What person wants to be an ICE agent to begin with.
jrthin
(5,215 posts)Cheezoholic
(3,535 posts)SheltieLover
(76,906 posts)bdamomma
(69,176 posts)what price are they selling their souls to do this inhumane deed???
Heidi
(58,846 posts)Prairie Gates
(7,212 posts)Like all henchmen and mercenaries, they just need more money. These people have no principles to begin with. They want the summer home and the jet ski. The GOP Congress and Trump are going to give it to them. They'll swallow their scruples with a steak dinner and two fingers of Pappy. Not bad for an associates degree and a gym membership.
BannonsLiver
(20,282 posts)C_U_L8R
(48,892 posts)róisín_dubh
(12,231 posts)Hotler
(13,737 posts)kentuck
(115,119 posts)Morale was bad at My Lai also.
Ping Tung
(4,143 posts)awesomerwb1
(4,988 posts)And with the incredible amount of money ICE just got, one can assume the bounties will get even larger which will attract all the bounty hunters they will need.
Johnny2X2X
(23,693 posts)They are part of a truly evil organization, people are going to fight back soon.
Grokenstein
(6,247 posts)drmeow
(5,929 posts)is low because they suddenly realized they might be the ones who get hurt for a change!
newdeal2
(4,803 posts)Id like to believe otherwise
UTUSN
(76,978 posts)scarfing up on the job security, pay the best of their possibility, and great benefits, while stoking their egos with the glam testosterone image.
Irish_Dem
(79,889 posts)Simple.
dalton99a
(92,161 posts)Arazi
(8,708 posts)Jenn Budd a former DHS and CBP agent suggests openly mocking them. Humiliate them and make the job psychologically hurt.
These folks see themselves as warrior types and the best way to defang them is to shame them - call them Nazis, small dicks, collaborators etc which additionally makes the job look less attractive to potential recruits.
Marthe48
(22,736 posts)Collaborators might be above their reading level. Maybe backstabber. Or rat. Or bully.
Arazi
(8,708 posts)So she suggests specifically targeting their beliefs on the value of what their doing, their internalized messaging on how brave/heroic/macho/important they are.
Shame them and the mission. Belittle them. Call them cowards and traitors. Attack their manhood (she specifically suggested calling them pussies).
Nasruddin
(1,178 posts)Maybe something like the labor union inflatable rat is needed
Something big, that would attract attention but at the same time non-threatening to normies and humorous.
LearnedHand
(5,241 posts)Is there a link?
Arazi
(8,708 posts)She has numerous posts there with suggestions
LearnedHand
(5,241 posts)Dixiegrrrl
(180 posts)Got the full brunt of male agents attacking her.
Might want to check out Wikipedia for more details.
tonekat
(2,452 posts)Than they can suffer too!!
bdamomma
(69,176 posts)ICE (Jan 6th Insurrectionists) are nothing but damaged men who are taking orders from other damaged men, like the felon and Stephen Miller. Damn them all!!!!
NBachers
(19,187 posts)maxsolomon
(38,206 posts)they should quit.
durablend
(8,898 posts)Hope some of them toss themselves off a bridge. No. tears. shed.
sop
(17,471 posts)The Superior Orders defense didn't work at Nuremberg, it won't work when these ICE goons go on trial.
RockRaven
(18,739 posts)Half-step
(116 posts)No one is holding a gun to YOUR head. Just go find another job.
RockRaven
(18,739 posts)They can FUCK OFF!!!
LuvLoogie
(8,535 posts)and shitty people are calling them heroes.
Word must be getting out to friends and family, that cousin JD is an Ice agent.
Ray Bruns
(5,985 posts)Demobrat
(10,263 posts)Youre not in the military. You can pull the mask off and walk away any time you want.
unblock
(55,932 posts)Paladin
(32,303 posts)Diamond_Dog
(39,784 posts)Nasruddin
(1,178 posts)This story is a definition of those terms
Hekate
(100,132 posts)Its some tough shit when it takes 6 masked heavily armed agents to snatch a pretty girl on her way to college. Were they required to rape her too? Or does that happen in the camps?
Likewise 6-on-1 to grab a mother picking figs in her own front yard. My heart just bleeds for those men. They clearly have no choice in the matter.
Oh the poor, poor babies.
ret5hd
(22,202 posts)remember that, you fuckin cretins your children will know!
SorellaLaBefana
(482 posts)https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jul/25/liberation-of-rome-italian-imagination
After all, when Great Leader was asked at the recent performance of Les Miz if he identified more with Jean Valijean (whose life was destroyed by having stolen bread for his starving family) or with Inspector Javert who repeatedly destroyed his and so many other people's livesHe said "That's a tough one"
Interesting comment (right up there with "Good People on Both Sides" referring to Nazis and their victims in Charlottesville during his First Imperium) which almost left one with the feeling that Supreme Leader had perhaps even less knowledge of Les Misérables than of his multiply demonstrated unfamiliarity the Christian Bible
Above image is of Great Leader holding up a bible in front of an Episcopal Church after having goons without nametags clear the court yard around the White House in 2020 after cowering in the WH Bunker all day in fear of a peaceful protest.
He seems to have missed the message "All Are Welcome" (now actually ILLEAGAL to say in Idaho!) on the Church's notice board.
https://tennesseelookout.com/2020/06/08/commentary-second-thoughts-on-biblegate/
barbtries
(31,135 posts)quit and join #TheOpposition if it's that bad, and you fucking know well it is.
pwb
(12,465 posts)Those little gardeners are scary. They could be armed with rakes?
Unbitten
(15 posts)Low morale from being a bootlicking piece of shit? Easy solution: quit.
Lulu KC
(8,510 posts)Bring it down from the inside.
wryter2000
(47,940 posts)There are crops to be harvested.
Chakaconcarne
(2,771 posts)Hope springs eternal, but for some it will.
electricmonk
(2,015 posts)of course I imagine that they recruit in one town and then send them to another town/state to avoid just that issue. Either way if someone finds out a person works for ICE in any capacity from those doing street arrests to flying the kidnap planes to those working in the camps they need to be shunned and made to feel unwelcome in every aspect of daily life. Kick them out of the bar, don't invite them to the cookout, send them a lump of coal for Christmas whatever it takes.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,603 posts)I hope they're all miserable.
Initech
(107,461 posts)Fuck ICE!
Heidi
(58,846 posts)Until then:
with a dash of sad trombone.
malthaussen
(18,404 posts)In the immortal words of "Mule Skinner Blues," "If you don't like your job, put the buck-buck-bucket down."
-- Mal
Heidi
(58,846 posts)Reader Rabbit
(2,746 posts)Well, boo f***ing hoo, you psychopathic hypocrites. At least you get to go home to your families at the end of the working day, unlike all the people you're terrorizing.
Heidi
(58,846 posts)Conjuay
(2,903 posts)Thoughts and prayers.
peggysue2
(12,389 posts)They could make the choice to simply stand down.
I'm not seeing a sense of depression or hesitation in the film footage available. On the contrary, these goons appear gung-ho in beating down the next brown-skinned gardener.
ICE is hated because they're doing hateful, lawless things.
Excuse me if I have little sympathy for Nazis kidnappers.

