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yellowcanine

(36,719 posts)
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:47 AM Jul 2025

Trump is circling the drain politically and physically.

The House is going to go Democratic, maybe even before the midterms. The Senate may also go that way. The Epstein scandal is only going to get much worse for Trump. Why this story did not break open a year ago, I don’t know. And physically, I don’t think Trump’s health holds up until the midterms. He may escape justice by dying.

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Trump is circling the drain politically and physically. (Original Post) yellowcanine Jul 2025 OP
I'm betting his hope is that he escapes justice by dying... MiHale Jul 2025 #1
I'd rather see the Criminal-in-Chief rot in prison. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2025 #4
I have a running argument with a family member that Alice B. Jul 2025 #15
+1. I think the orange one said that the thing he fears the most is hearing the clang of the cell door being shut. Hotler Jul 2025 #27
He will have no immunity in Hell BOSSHOG Jul 2025 #17
As an atheist, I regret that I don't believe this but rather wish I could. The judgement of history is all the hell... NNadir Jul 2025 #26
His family will pay for his sins for generations. Joinfortmill Jul 2025 #34
Lots of speculation this morning.. Omnipresent Jul 2025 #2
Too much speculation if you ask me. Katinfl Jul 2025 #19
I think the only way Trump will leave Haggard Celine Jul 2025 #3
It isn't happening nearly fast enough to suit me. (nt) Paladin Jul 2025 #5
Everything points to a failing economy, and Trump is deteriorating right before our very eyes. sop Jul 2025 #6
From your keyboard, 3Hotdogs Jul 2025 #7
That would be wonderful! mwb970 Jul 2025 #8
I've listened to this from his first failure. Conjuay Jul 2025 #9
I'd be good with the sewage plants...... lastlib Jul 2025 #12
I'm not even sure about regaining the House mnmoderatedem Jul 2025 #10
True. Also they have the courts in their favor. Katinfl Jul 2025 #21
This fascist regime is more than just the orange shit stain Martin Eden Jul 2025 #11
They may declare martial law, but what liberalgunwilltravel Jul 2025 #13
They replaced the top echelon of military leaders with sycophants who will follow illegal orders Martin Eden Jul 2025 #23
I actually disagree. Without Trump, they are nothing. No political talent, no "charm," definitely not competent newdeal2 Jul 2025 #14
"Me and you against the world" Seinan Sensei Jul 2025 #20
He is a cult of personality Blue Full Moon Jul 2025 #24
Trump is ignorant, incompetent, and increasingly demented Martin Eden Jul 2025 #29
America nowforever Jul 2025 #16
I go into every day thinking there's a 50/50 shot he'll collapse Torchlight Jul 2025 #18
Also nowforever Jul 2025 #22
Just as he has been since 2016... Aristus Jul 2025 #25
bite your tongue lol et tu Jul 2025 #28
+1. He will expire naturally of old age in extreme luxury and comfort. dalton99a Jul 2025 #30
And alone. Not his wife nor any of his offspring Luz Jul 2025 #35
His party may suffer, but he's got nothing to lose Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #31
That drain is Traildogbob Jul 2025 #32
Dying works for me. Joinfortmill Jul 2025 #33
Hopefully author is correct. republianmushroom Jul 2025 #36
Post removed Post removed Jul 2025 #37
Dream on VanceFan Jul 2025 #38

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,506 posts)
4. I'd rather see the Criminal-in-Chief rot in prison.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:19 AM
Jul 2025

Death would be too easy an out for that POS!!

Alice B.

(696 posts)
15. I have a running argument with a family member that
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:15 AM
Jul 2025

He would claim he was mentally unfit to stand trial before risking actual prison time. She says his narcissism would never allow it.

I really think that if it came down to it, though…

And it’s not like he hasn’t racked up a boatload of evidence…

Hotler

(13,737 posts)
27. +1. I think the orange one said that the thing he fears the most is hearing the clang of the cell door being shut.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:50 AM
Jul 2025

He needs to experience that.

NNadir

(37,310 posts)
26. As an atheist, I regret that I don't believe this but rather wish I could. The judgement of history is all the hell...
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:40 AM
Jul 2025

...for which he will be subject, should a concept of history survive these awful times.

Katinfl

(642 posts)
19. Too much speculation if you ask me.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:31 AM
Jul 2025

I’d like to see it all become reality but it’s doubtful.

Haggard Celine

(17,685 posts)
3. I think the only way Trump will leave
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:15 AM
Jul 2025

the White House is if he dies in office or maybe he has a severe stroke and is incapacitated and they remove him using the 25th Amendment. It doesn't look right now like he'll finish his term. I don't see him resigning, though. To him that would be an admission of guilt, and he won't ever admit guilt. He's the type person who will die with the lie.

sop

(17,466 posts)
6. Everything points to a failing economy, and Trump is deteriorating right before our very eyes.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:40 AM
Jul 2025

Conjuay

(2,903 posts)
9. I've listened to this from his first failure.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:34 AM
Jul 2025

Unfortunately, unless he ends up in prison, his minions and omadans will be pushing to have everything from sewage treatment plants to cathedrals renamed in his honor.

lastlib

(27,562 posts)
12. I'd be good with the sewage plants......
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:40 AM
Jul 2025

but NOTHING else! "The Donlad* tRump Memorial Sewage Plant."

(*misspelled on purpose...)

mnmoderatedem

(3,905 posts)
10. I'm not even sure about regaining the House
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:38 AM
Jul 2025

repukes have plenty of crooked gerrymandering tricks up their sleeve

Martin Eden

(15,366 posts)
11. This fascist regime is more than just the orange shit stain
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:39 AM
Jul 2025

They will do ANYTHING to stay in power, including martial law and rigging elections if they can.

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,083 posts)
13. They may declare martial law, but what
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:06 AM
Jul 2025

Competent military leadership will they have. They have fired all the knowledgeable men and women, both in the military and the intelligence community. This certainly weakens their command and control structure. Additionally, the troops that served under competent leadership, especially line and field officers, may be more loyal to their oaths and former commanders than the DUI hire's appointed lackeys. Thus, martial law may literally blow up in their face. I am certain there are more than a few honorable men and women that have plans for Nazis like Miller, Homan, and Vought.

Martin Eden

(15,366 posts)
23. They replaced the top echelon of military leaders with sycophants who will follow illegal orders
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:33 AM
Jul 2025

It remains to be seen how many mid-level officers and enlisted men would refuse such orders. Many in the military are rightwingers.

I don't expect martial law to be implemented competently, or that every soldier would follow orders to shoot protesters.

But I do expect this fascist regime to do everything it can to hold onto power, and they have plenty of allies in charge of state governments.

It's going to get very ugly and dangerous heading into the midterms.

newdeal2

(4,802 posts)
14. I actually disagree. Without Trump, they are nothing. No political talent, no "charm," definitely not competent
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:12 AM
Jul 2025

Once he's gone, they'll still exist but they'll be fighting each other to hold on to whatever remains of Trump's base.

Blue Full Moon

(3,172 posts)
24. He is a cult of personality
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:34 AM
Jul 2025

He gave the dark or shadow work permission to show in people. Once he goes it will withdraw back to the shadows. This is all because this country just sweeps under the rug all the things that is wrong and doesn't want anyone to see. No acknowledgement or healing and denial.

Martin Eden

(15,366 posts)
29. Trump is ignorant, incompetent, and increasingly demented
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:55 AM
Jul 2025

His only real talent is a carnival barker, selling snake oil to fools. That, and wielding power to intimidate.

He didn't get to where he is without poweful billionaires using him for their own ends. Trump leaves most of the actual work in the hands of others. The machinery of this fascist regime functions without him.

The Republican congress is compliant largely because they're on board with the dismantling of the federal bureaucracy. Much of what they don't want is Trump’s lunacy on tariffs and foreign affairs, which President Vance would curtail.

There is a great deal of money and power behind the fascist agenda. Trump doesn't embrace much of an ideology besides his own personal wants. He's not the driving force behind Project 2025.

It doesn't especially matter if those who voted for Trump don't much like Vance. Hell, Trump’s polling numbers are underwater and likely to get worse while this Epstein saga continues.

Polls aren't power. Fascists hold the power, and they will do ANYTHING to maintain their grip. They have plenty of Republican allies in elected office, including state governments -- and the Supreme Court, for that matter.

I'm not predicting whether or not they will fully succeed in destroying American democracy.

I'm saying they will pull out all stops to maintain their grip, with or without Trump.

 

nowforever

(586 posts)
16. America
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:18 AM
Jul 2025

Elected a demented malignant narcissist to be our President even though he was a convicted felon and found guilty of sexual abuse of a woman. He gets into office and immediately starts to pursue an agenda that is cruel and driven by an animosity directed at anyone or anything he perceives as a threat. All of this driven by greed and fear which is manipulated to perfection by the soulless GOP. Their only mistake, they elected a quickly deteriorating child predator who is now imploding by the second. Hoping birthday card will be released soon as it tells you what kind of man Trump truly is.

Torchlight

(6,318 posts)
18. I go into every day thinking there's a 50/50 shot he'll collapse
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:30 AM
Jul 2025

While I don't actively hope for it, I do tend to think watching him stroke out on national tv or clutching his chest as he's teeing off on the front nine will be one of the least surprising things I'll have ever watched him do.

 

nowforever

(586 posts)
22. Also
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:33 AM
Jul 2025

Wanted to thank Elon Musk for exposing the truth in his moment of narcissistic rage. THANKS ELON YOU ARE THE BEST OF THE BESTEST THE GREATEST EVER...right Donald ???

Aristus

(71,658 posts)
25. Just as he has been since 2016...
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:38 AM
Jul 2025

...and 2017...2018...2019...2020...2021...2022...2023...2024...2025...

If only the good die young, this motherfucker is going to live forever...

et tu

(2,387 posts)
28. bite your tongue lol
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:53 AM
Jul 2025

'who wants to live forever'
most certainly he dose but
his human(?) body is frail and
'big mcafied'. your our only hope
grim reaper.

Luz

(899 posts)
35. And alone. Not his wife nor any of his offspring
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 10:59 AM
Jul 2025

seem to want anything to do with him. I hope it stays that way, too. He deserves to die cold and alone..JMHO.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,063 posts)
31. His party may suffer, but he's got nothing to lose
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 09:02 AM
Jul 2025

Except, as you pointed out, his life.

Otherwise, he won't be driven from office, and will continue to grift and enrich himself and exact his petty revenge, while his minions attempt to dismantle democracy.

He doesn’t care about his approval ratings, only in his unfettered ability to wreak chaos.

Hopefully the midterms will help put the brakes on some of that, but much of the damage will have been done.

Traildogbob

(12,561 posts)
32. That drain is
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 09:14 AM
Jul 2025

Totally clogged with a mass of slimy, nasty, toxic goo that Fox and RW spew every day. Justice has zero effect on that packed drain. And all the slimiest assholes on earth are thriving in the soup that is filling the tub, with GQP R/W lying, child raping, soulless, greedy racist, power hungry thieves. And are welcome there. And are extremely toxic as well.

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