He has no control over this one. Too much evidence abounds.

Grand Jury testimony won't be nearly as complete as the whole of the investigation file. She and Trump are both up shit creek. As FL AG she seems to have squelched a lot that is probably covered by the total investigation file.

No wonder she suddenly says 'no file'. She was in on the evidence suppression since way back. I will be almost as glad to have her off the federal payroll as getting Trump off our backs.

The party’s over

I leaned back in my chair and shut my eyes and listened, images of trump and evidence floating through my mind. Logs from the plane. Lists of people/patrons (already posted on Reddit, fyi).

Favorite line: "take off your makeup."

Tears rolling down an orange-stained sink.

Of course, it was right after their tax breaks were made permanent

I guess we buckle up for President Thiel-Vance's even shittier policies without the daily distraction of whatever is wrong with Trump's brain.

Dare I say, I might actually miss the incompetence.

😀

Perhaps close to a "buttload" of times?

This has all been known for years TPTB are done with Krasnov.

When asked for comment by CNN on the newly unearthed videos and photos, Trump reportedly responded: “You’ve got to be kidding me.” He then reportedly called CNN “fake news” and hung up the phone.

Steven Cheung, the White House communications director, said in a statement to CNN that the videos and photos were “nothing more than out-of-context frame grabs of innocuous videos and pictures of widely attended events to disgustingly infer something nefarious”.

“The fact is that the President kicked him out of his club for being a creep,” Cheung added. “This is nothing more than a continuation of the fake news stories concocted by the Democrats and the liberal media.”

Way too much video, reports and photos.
The Maxwell meeting will be torn to shreds. Please proceed idiots

buttload or shitload?

I am wondering if there are enough accusations out there that they can't be walked back.

Whatever Naugahyde Vance agreed to in the Montana meeting was enough for them to move forward.

More here
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a65466454/jd-vance-murdochs-trump-epstein/

There is no reason for the Murdoch's to meet with Vance, except to scope him out as our next presidunce. I think this was planned for after the midterms. Only trump is deteriorating faster than they anticipated.

Watching paint dry is more exciting than Vance.

the veracity of your correction, PJMcK. This is how we learn.

Those same friends had a dozen different interpretations of n/t. I see it a lot on this site. What is that?

IMNSTM. ITIMNSTYE.

My comment using "tonne" was a joke and I didn't think it needed an explanation.

Sorry but I could only decipher part of your response. If you feel like it, please clarify.

Enjoy the coming week!

I've been dealing with acronyms my entire adult life, particularly at my job. I've often wondered why people can't just spell the entire word. In my humble opinion,
it ain't that hard. At my job, I've had acronym conversation, often resulting in miscommunication. It's one of my triggers.

Again, I'd like to apologize for the nasty tone. I will reflect on this during my afternoon beer.

Dr. T

Democratic Underground is an easy place from my point of view. It's just the internet! But thanks for your thoughts. They're appreciated.

Still, what did the rest of your acronym message mean? The first part was easy and funny!

Thanks.

If the acronyms are too "salty," you could use the DU email to send it it to me privately. Thanks.

I thought my mother did a better job raising me than that. If it's okay with you, I'd prefer to move on.

We've got a lot of bigger problems to deal with in this world. This is low on the list.

Equal to 108 imperial gallons, or just under 130 US gallons.

🤓

As I said before, Trump has more pictures/videos with Epstein than he does Melania at this point.

You aren't that close to someone, for that long, WHILE MAKING MULTIPLE REFERENCES THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF HIS PEDOPHILIC BEHAVIOR, without have some sort of extensive involvement yourself.

And the dam has broken

Am I right?

Rec

yup

I think Theils plan all along was to get his minion in office thru tRumps base/ ‘charisma’ cuz his little creep has zero of his own.

I also think a number of ‘the powers that be’ are also on the client list and are gonna throw him under the bus to try to protect themselves.

Then the private meeting with Naugahyde Vance cemented the deal.

Vance is more dangerous than trump in a way, Vance can focus and concentrate. Whereas trump is like a cat on a hot tin roof, with a firecracker stuck up his ass.

Fortunately he has the likability of a mosquito.

Vance will usher in the theocratic. Maga may have called trump savior but the churches are losing too many members and too much money. Vance is a fake xtian in the worst way... eaten up with dreams of power and he's got that old time Dominionism down deep in his black heart. He will do whatever the P2025 people tell him. He's so much more malleable than donny.

This is dangerous, very authoritarian, secret cult. It's no joke, it's real. I have family members in it. Started under and supported by Franco, spread worldwide, supported by Pinochet, Fujimori, and many, many others.
They start by "converting" very wealthy, powerful people and focus on them and the judges. After all, if you own the judges, then you write whatever laws you want. If you control the wealth, you control power.
It's no joke that their stooge, the Federalist Society, is full of Opus Dei members. So is the Supreme Court and many other courts on this country.
Haven't heard of them? They are a secret society. Members will never admit they are members.
Want to know more? Read the recently published book "OPUS" by Gareth Gore. It will open your eyes.

but the NAR has made bedfellows with them because their ideology is similar. It's a fool's errand. Both are horrendous groups, and neither will stomach the other as legitimate if and when they gain National power. To charismatics and fundamentalists, Catholics are idolaters. And I doubt Catholics really have much use for the NAR people, once you start pointing out specific groups like Westboro.

This is going to be the biggest issue raising its head in the next very few years. I dread it. The Witch Wars of the 1980's and the Satanic Panic was bad enough to live through. This will be hundreds of times worse.

Inspired by the Fascist former leader of Spain

as I read it. Definitely lit me up! And Naugahyde Vance ... too funny!

However, he may not be as dangerous as Trump, because I do not think that the Republicans (and others) will follow him as well as they have followed Trump. I don't think he has the backing that Trump has, so that may be one thing that may be more favorable if he has to take over.

I thought they might do something cruder, like mess with his meds or just allow him to fall down the stairs over and over again until the treatment worked.

But maybe ... they're going to force him out with this scandal. Maybe. I'm not even 50% convinced yet, but it doesn't look good.

I don't have the same concerns as others do about Vance. I think Vance will disappear faster than a trans-solar system comet. He has no charisma, no base, and no ability to hold the thing together. If Thiel thinks he's going to rule thru this puppet he is probably completely mistaken, but the joke's going to be on us.

He’s signing his own removal with the 25th.

When the minion gets in we will have an ‘event’ that will enable the insurrection act or whatever to take effect - no ability to have elections……

If he thinks JD has participated in a coup against him, he will go nuclear and goad all the MAGA still loyal to him to do the same. It might be a good idea to stock up on supplies and prepare to hunker down.

Vance is just a stepping stone.

Hey, there is nothing, nothing whatsoever, that says these tech bros make good choices for their next presidunce.

Musk himself thought he had charisma, then burned himself badly with his own delusions.

Tesla's California sales down for seven straight quarters | Reuters
1 day ago ... Tesla's electric vehicle registrations in California fell 21.1% in the second quarter, according to industry data, marking the seventh ...

HA HA HA HA so predictable.

White House Says WSJ Report on Trump Being Told Name in Epstein Files 'Fake News'

By Reuters
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July 23, 2025, at 3:42 p.m.

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2025-07-23/white-house-says-wsj-report-on-trump-being-told-name-in-epstein-files-fake-news

His July 15 response suggests he was told and as folks are pointing out the WSJ piece went public on the 17th.
I’m betting they have way more and am beginning to take those posts re that Montana meeting with Rupert and Vance way more seriously .

Can’t wait for Lawrence tonight.

Whenever Trump says it's fake, it rarely is.

We shall see. Thanks for the link, never a dull moment.

Trump was a pimp like his grandfather.

I saw a bunch of extended family members today, while watching my grandson as he did heavy work outside. Two houses full of family. When adults asked me how I was doing, I'd say I was trying to remember who Epstein was, though the felon had insisted we forget him. My DC nephew had a number of interesting stories regarding the felon & Epstein.

Now, for a quick nap before Lawrence comes on! My grandson was non-stop, and wore me out. He, of course, was sound asleep shortly into the car ride to drop me off.

Houses full of family.

😂😂😂

Their editorial page may suck, but the reporting is almost always solid.

...I (formerly) subscribed to NYT. He haughtily informed me he was a WSJ subscriber and wouldn't touch a liberal rag like NYT. I love thinking of how his week must be going!

GOP pedos deserve justice. Lock them up.

He knows what happened at Epstein island!

Bury this slimy bastard.

There is a supreme or two’s name on it also ?
🤔


✌🏻

Found a witch?

If there are no files - or nothing of significance in those files, why are you saying it's a hoax or made up?
After the first WSJ bombshell - he started saying " credible". - "I told them to release credible information". Others have repeated the word. "credible".
They are trying to convince people that whatever comes out is not credible, it was planted.

It is quite telling though - that when the first WSJ article came out. Neither Bondi or Patel said it was fake. Hmmm
They have seen it all - They never backed him up to say that this was fake.
His lawsuit will go nowhere. WSJ reported that it was included in the documents in the files.
I'd love to see Bondi or Patel go under oath to say that it is not in those files.

He said Bondi did not tell him that he was in the files.
He is mentioned multiple times😀

The President is lying
The AG has been lying - she knew she told him
The Speaker is lying

Lock him up!

He must have knew that TSF was in the files repeatedly. Why did he sit on it? Why didn't President Biden press him to go public? It just doesn't make any sense. We have too many leaders that prefer to keep the power dry. We need more fighters.

Turns out the entire pizza gate crap was part of the pedo posse’s perpetual projection

The Russian Pee pee😀

In there too and why all leaders were keeping quiet.

Down they go too .

Bad dems just make us look bad.

go take a look at the logs from the Maxwell case. They are published here:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/#document/p1

One-hundred eighteen pages of flights.

I don't care WHO they are

But at this point I think they have found a way to scrub Trump out of it.

it's beyond frustrating that this information has been out there for years and the right wing/ russian propaganda machine is so powerful that people don't know it.

Murdoch isn’t CBS. The Medici family of the GOP.

Its funny how some of the MAGA loyalists are still hollering about LW media - when Murdoch owns WSJ and FOX.
If it had been leaked to CNN, MSNBC or one of the other networks, they would have rolled over.

A new Wall Street Journal report said the president's name "appeared multiple times" in the Jeffrey Epstein files — and he was told that during a briefing.

The new @wsj.com report said Trump's name appeared "multiple times" in the Epstein files — and the president was told that in a recent briefing.

So why did he suggest otherwise last week? www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-07-23T20:26:36.624Z

The pedo posse continue their perpetual projection.

Now the attempted 2020 election coup was Obama not him

Musk posted this after the break up😀

shutting the house down is because he was told Trump's name is in the files. Buying time to let them try to concoct a fix .

Rec

I mean who isn't in on it?