and I gave more reasons for why we should engage in it than shouldn't.

trump's pedophilia is exposed and he's held to account. This is very damaging to the Maga Party/republicans. This is a no-brainer. We should never let them off this hook.

Also Maxwell should never. be pardoned.

The other issues are extremely important but they don’t resonate as much as sexual abuse of minors.
The president of the United States is trying to cover it up and low info people understand that. He also promised his base that they will find and prosecute the democrats in the files. When he said through his mouthpiece there were no files, they felt like the suckers they were. Just like Watergate it’s the coverup.

Epstein could be their Watergate. Whatever takes them down so we can do the other things. And the victims deserve the justice they didn't get when Epstein died.

We have to do what works. It's sad to me that dismantling Democracy wasn't enough though.

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If we can't protect our children, our girls and yes, boys as well, then there is no Democracy.

I watch the two documentaries of Epstein and Maxwell. She called the victim's trash. The rich and 'famous' need to be held accountable for the lives they ruined.

This is for the girls.

No argument there.

Though they are fine with having no shame whatsoever, the public does have a breaking point, and I hope if nothing else, the Epstein mess is it.

Mostly we need to shake the media into being more realistic and representative, and echoing the voices of the majority who are utterly fed up and loathe Donnie, not just the white supremacists whose voices have gotten far more than their fair share in this country for far too long.

Frankly, the 1932-2024 Republic is gone. These guys are going to be in power until America becomes thoroughly disgusted with them. It'll take issues, scandals, and declining conditions, all coming together along with a charismatic leader from the left (broadly speaking). So let's metaphorically eat the rich, whatever the red plate special happens to be.

The summer where Bush played hide and seek with Sheehan ended with Katrina, and in two years was followed by the beginning of the Great Recession. The bathtub drain swirl created its own momentum.

Such as it will hopefully be at some point here. This time, whatever the Occupy Wall Street is needs to succeed and needs to have the ear of the party.

you mentioned and keep the heat on trump and his pedophilia. Also see post 9.

me is that Krasnov also increased our tax 13.2% average on all goods coming from EU countries and there is barely a whisper about that on M$M. I think we have a great opportunity to take power on pricing and economic messages. But it’s getting drowned out by Epstein.

on MSNBC yesterday. I think we have to be honest that the Epstein focus is going to take away from other issues. That may be worth it in the long run, but I am not completely convinced.

explanations and excuses -- then change and deny them hours later. If he isn't guilty, he's doing a lousy job at 'splaining.

Crisis management does not seem to be their "thing" to put it mildly.

and an example of how crooked the white house is. Every time they say trump, it should be accompanied by the word criminal, or felon, or crime boss. Same with references to the regime. Every issue with trump, whether it's immigration, big ugly bill, Epstien, can be tied to corruption and people understand corruption.

Tying it all together under corruption makes sense.

IMHO we haven’t been doing anywhere near enough of this. Catchy sound bites work. Epstein Recess vs Congress is in recess.
The Convicted Felon vs President Trump. Yes, it’s childish but it works!

FUCKING RELEASE ALL THOSE FILES, OUT THESE THESE RICH PEDOPHILES ALONG WITH EVERYONE WHO HAS COVERED FOR THEM

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Does that count as "mixed feelings"?

It's all about what's in for him.

BIL says that he's using the list to blackmail powerful people to get what he wants.


I don't think it's gonna incriminate Trump anymore than what we know already about him and Epstein. However, even casual acquaintances of Epstein can be hurt by being on the list. Trump is likely calling them and threatening to go public if they don't give him what he wants. That's his MO and that's how he gets his way.

When discussing the Scooter Libby case with one of my BCI Senior Investigator uncles, he said you collect all the evidence you can, including some that might never be introduced in court. Then you let the prosecutor decide what to charge. It might not be what you had originally investigated. But as long as the person is convicted and incarcerated, that is the way the legal system often works.

I think we all want to concentrate on the severe damage he is doing now. Some cases are at least slowing him down. We are not in a position to stop him as a minority in the houses of Congress. The Epstein issue is, for a variety of reasons, one of the best bets to weaken him with the public now, and help us regain congressional control in the mid-terms. Thus, I'm glad it is still a hot issue, and recommend fanning the flames.

I guess I'm addicted to looking at all the angles and all the repercussions and discussing them to death. Not a great technique for the times we live in, is it? So we'll see where this all takes us, and here's hoping that it does help with the midterms as you suggested.

Because I seen face to face how humiliating this is for the magapub voters. They get red faced then shamed.


I love it.

Bunch of refined pedophiles dare one suggest?

'Creepy Biden' comments and nastiness towards a good honorable man?

Maybe all of that time they were projecting.

Guilt guilt guilt!!!!!

The dumbing down is complete. I realize that. But I remember a time when more than one thing was news, concentrated on, voted on, and talked about.

I don't want the Epstein issue to go away because it will be something that the crazy Evangelicals can be called on. They won't admit that their hero-worshipped idiot did anything wrong, of course, but it's still something I am going to bring up to every one of them when they start in on Biden and Hillary and Obama.

If there are Democrats on the list and proven to be a part of this crap, then they will have to take their lumps just like Trump. I'm not sure yet that "being on the list" equates with being guilty of what we all know that Trump is guilty of doing. So, I'll reserve judgment on that until more is known.

My feelings are not mixed. Put the pedal to the metal, ask for Epstein's autopsy report.

True, I express some misgivings, but to equate me with trump is beyond the pale and I believe breaks DU rules. I don't appreciate that, my friend.