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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe problem is far bigger than Jeffrey Epstein -- Rebecca Solnit
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/03/jeffrey-epstein-violence-womenTreating the scandal as an aberration misunderstands the global epidemic of violence against women
In June, the movie producer Harvey Weinstein was found guilty in a New York retrial for some of his decades of horrific sexual abuse of women, with the help of his extensive staff, top lawyers, the film industry, some ex-Mossad agents and of course his deep pockets. In February a federal appeals court upheld the convictions and 30-year prison sentence of the singer R Kelly for racketeering and sex trafficking; last year his other 20-year sentence was also upheld, for producing child abuse images and enticement of children for sex. Of course his deep pockets and extensive assistance had also been factors in how he too was able to abuse girls for so long.
One of the reasons the epidemic of violence against women is so unacknowledged is because cases like these are talked about individually, and often treated as though they are shocking aberrations rather than part of a pervasive pattern that operates at all levels of society. Another is that it is in the most literal sense not news there are tides of hatred and violence against other groups that ebb and flow, but violence against women is global and enduring, a constant rather than an event. Another is that law enforcement and the legal system have often been more interested in protecting perpetrators and society has often normalized and even celebrated violence against women.
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But in another sense the whole society is hiding something: that this violence is everywhere and it deeply shapes or misshapes our society. The statistics I cited above address the victims of specific crimes. But all girls and women are impacted by the reality that so many men want to harm us and these crimes could happen to any one of us. This violence affects the choices we make about where to go and when, what jobs to take, when to speak up, what to wear. The threat of violence and actual violence by some men against some women and girls establishes female vulnerability and fear and disempowerment far more broadly. Society has largely required us to alter our lives to avoid this, rather than society being altered to make us free and equal. This violence is an engine of inequality that benefits all men, insofar as being more equal than others in this respect is a benefit.
The piecemeal stories here is this one bad man we need to do something about dont address the reality that the problem is systemic and the solution isnt police and prison. Its social change, and societies will have changed enough when violence against women ceases to be a pandemic that stretches across continents and centuries. Systemic problems require systemic responses, and while Im all for releasing the Epstein files, I want a broader conversation and deeper change.
J_William_Ryan
(3,340 posts)Neither of which will happen, of course, the consequence of conservative opposition to both.
cally
(21,830 posts)but I do think this Epstein case may help expose some of the rich, powerful men who thought this was OK and covered it up
bucolic_frolic
(54,064 posts)The author is correct of course but we only know about these things from the modern digital age, and the hidden content on similar technology - dark net, apps of all types - remain unknown.
erronis
(22,675 posts)Pushing any such activities further away from scrutiny.
Just like when religions try to prohibit something they don't want the flock to engage in - but they are usually the major transgressors.
Speakeasies?
snot
(11,523 posts)There are also the questions of which of our leaders betrayed their country by making or acquiescing in actions or omissions because they were blackmailed into it, and which of our leaders might betray us in the future if the info about their sex crimes is allowed to continue to be held in secret?
Because I find it beyond belief that anyone willing to keep such info secret wouldn't also be willing to use it.
Baitball Blogger
(51,742 posts)IT ALL UNFOLDED IN FLORIDA. Do I have to say more? Is the Libertarian lifestyle in this state so corrupt that the grooming and raping of young children is acceptable as long as the pimps and Johns have political connections?
And, of course there is something wrong since to this day, the same political machinations are involved in a full blown cover-up scandal.
erronis
(22,675 posts)Solnit does talk about much more than the Epstein/Trump case.
Yes, Florida probably attracts these con artists and criminals. As does NYC and Las Vegas and other places.
littlemissmartypants
(31,675 posts)Reference here:
Project Safe Childhood is a nationwide initiative to combat the growing epidemic of child sexual exploitation and abuse launched in May 2006 by the Department of Justice.
https://www.justice.gov/psc
There are more than a dozen perps listed for the first day of August 2025 alone.
flashman13
(2,033 posts)It is ordained that men are meant to reign and women are meant to serve. Service comes in many forms. Abuse is one. Get me a beer is something else, but no less disdainful of female equality.
OMGWTF
(5,016 posts)I have always thought that stupid story about Eve and the apple was the birthplace of misogyny.
Dem4life1970
(1,047 posts)....elevated the standing of women especially in Ancient Near Eastern culture, and He washed His followers' feet (something no King or person in power would ever do).
I am very clear eyed about what Jesus did vs. what many of his "followers" have done/are doing.
Dan
(4,981 posts)Why did so many White, Hispanic and Arabic women vote for Trump - given his history? I am not sure about the Asian female vote And dont respond with that crap that they didnt know.
electric_blue68
(25,942 posts)And I suppose others believe that's how they should be - submisive. As poster said above most if not all religions have women as 2nd class. 😑 Plus some like his,authoritarian tendencies.
I don't know if I ever bought that, but if I did I quickly grew out of it by the time I was a tween, early teen.
It can be sooo dispiriting at times what continues to go to women herd, and particularly around the world in certain countries!
whathehell
(30,362 posts)internalize the low esteem in which they're held by the dominant members of their societies. This is true in regard to gender, race, and in some cases, religion and sexual orientation.
electric_blue68
(25,942 posts)Last edited Fri Aug 8, 2025, 10:10 PM - Edit history (1)
It's like brainwashing. The repetition of how "inferior" one is. Embedded in society.
whathehell
(30,362 posts)calimary
(89,047 posts)I cant understand why ANY woman would want to vote for trump.
Frankly, I still dont understand why ANYBODY, female OR male, would want to vote for him.
OldBaldy1701E
(10,204 posts)Since this whole religion that says 'men are superior to women' thing has become more prevalent. These poor females are being forced to be subservient to these animals and, thanks to their 'religion', they have been told that there is no other way to be.
The men that perpetuate this should all be dragged out behind the barn and... taught why their choices are not acceptable.
But that is just me.
Stargazer99
(3,441 posts)When people say why didn't she leave him, I would have. Not if the man threatened the life of a child or pet if she left on top of the poverty children and mothers could possibly face. I often wonder just how ignorant some people can be
Dan
(4,981 posts)Attacks on DEI is so ugly. It provides an opportunity for females to at least have some opportunities with meaningful employment. In this day and age, a female (or for that matter, a male) that doesnt have marketable job skills is committing a crime against self. Marriage today seems more like a business partnership (from what I have seen of my younger generation friends).
Religion, cultural norms - so many things used to keep some people in mental chains, sad. Not to imply that either of these are bad in themselves but noting how these things can be used.
SunSeeker
(57,590 posts)Deep State Witch
(12,575 posts)To have this conversation.
erronis
(22,675 posts)"Society" as defined by them.
Deep State Witch
(12,575 posts)Sorry my response was so short. I'm on a Zoom call.
NNadir
(37,308 posts)wiggs
(8,684 posts)AntiFascist
(13,732 posts)and now with Russian (former Soviet) money laundering and human trafficking in the mix, it's obvious that they want to protect the not so "innocent" elite who have participated in all this. Look into the historical connections of Ghislaine, her father Robert Maxwell, and Epstein's Russian bank and former KGB connections.
Trump has long been associated with the NYC mafiosos and more recently the Russian mafia whose laundered money has made him such a "success" in real estate. He truly wants to become the #1 crime boss authoritarian who can intimidate or troll anyone who dares to speak out against him. He also stands as a role model for elite female abusers where they "let you get away with it."
Pam Bondi has been twisting herself into a pretzel trying to redact Trump's name and other elites from files that the public is demanding to be released. What other sex abuse and trafficking cases have also gotten their evidence buried?
red dog 1
(32,509 posts)ProfessorGAC
(75,859 posts)electric_blue68
(25,942 posts)H2O Man
(78,647 posts)Thank you for this! It is extremely important that we understand this is part of a much larger problem.
druidity33
(6,869 posts)Hugin
(37,448 posts)The most ugly exploitation crime known has been prettied up. They are the slavers that your grandmother probably warned you about.
twodogsbarking
(17,589 posts)ihaveaquestion
(4,407 posts)Wild blueberry
(8,134 posts)Thank you.
niyad
(129,607 posts)Trueblue Texan
(4,196 posts)Few men seem to grasp the deeply ingrained sense of vulnerability that ALL women, even the strongest of us feel ALL the time. We learn this intuitively growing up in a male dominated society where females are taught that THEY are responsible for whatever violations of their person they endure. Even in my own home, I have difficulty conveying to my husband that YES open blinds bother me, even in the daylight--not because of the light, but because they reveal there is a woman in the house. I am not generally a fearful person. This feels more instinctive. It is safer to be invisible in this world that hates women.