and I don't miss them.

I don't want to give any msm channels ratings.

habit and mostly enjoy their guests like Eugene Robinson.

My guess is that they have had to reverse course on Trump: no more "explaining away" his transgressions. It is probably because their guests, for the large part, have proven stubborn about opposing Trump. He has made things so much worse, because of his lunacy and evil intent, that they cannot whitewash him any longer.

There used to be (what felt like), near daily commentary about what was being discussed on Morning Joe.

HUGE drop-off in show chatter after recent election.

It feels like us DUers are DONE with Joe and Mika.

and critical of TSF, et al. If it is one who is on to skewer the Democrats, well, Joe the A'hole comes out as though the intervening years since he was in Congress (and which he reminds us hourly... ) had never happened. And if it is a right-wing-leaning guest, then he becomes a pretzel trying to find good things to say about the administration.

So, what of Mika? Silence. I cringe now when she does those segments on "empowering" (supposedly) women--her "Know Your Value," which has become nothing more than a forum to highlight the monied business elite among the women she knows. (yes, some were seemingly entrepreneurs and deserve some lauding, but it would appear few were ever without substantial financial backing from someone and few have any evidence of being "disadvantaged" growing up). I once would have applauded this, but it has simply become an attention-garnering effort for Mika, IMHO. Repetitive and in this time of women being decimated by Trump, Republicans, and all their ilk in every way, not one word, not one bit of organized effort, to fight back. Just a forum to pat these successful women on the back as they appear to have divorced themselves from politics and pulled the ladder up to their gated houses on the high hill. I respected her father and her brothers (from what I know of them) and used to really like her, but all this seems designed to allow her to avoid the sticky issues that come up with what Joe continues to say and, I suppose, to avoid becoming a target again herself to Trump and his boorish comments.

So, I can't really agree that they have changed more than on a superficial and highly self-serving basis.

I agree with the comment above that suggests fewer people are watching. I listen via Tune-In radio while walking my pup when there is no better podcast or musical option early in the morning. Otherwise, I'd be joining the "non-watchers.'

Joe stammers and he has nothing intelligent to say.

Mika was born into a prominent family but it doesn't seem to have given her any special insights.

JS walks all over her live for millions of people for 3 hours to start every day with her sheepishly rolling her eyes.

WTF is she to talk about women empowering themselves?

Watching that program again. MSNBC should chuck them and bring in the Weeknight team in the mornings.

Michael (the republican), Simone (the liberal) and Alicia (the pragmatist).

I hate having to wait until 7 PM to get to them.

considered her role: loud and almost comical in delivering her "performance." Now she speaks in measured tones and keeps her gestures minimal (if she gestures at all). Much more in line with the other panelists. It's a better show now and we enjoy it.

But she's still the same Symone on Threads!

She's a very smart woman and I now enjoy her much more.

Kamala is so intelligent and has just the right tone of urgency when she speaks. Simone seems out of control sometimes.

I always worry she might stab Michael or Alicia. 🤭

My guess is that they are intentional and meaningful. What they actually mean is a real question...cultural affirmation perhaps?

I'll never watch them again.

Before 7 am I watch our local news.

Not about us, or truth.

Before the election used to watch them every morning but after they bowed down to Trump I stopped watching them and all news programs since they did that. Felt they betrayed their audience by bashing Trump for 4 years and then kissing his rear after the election.

risk being shoved off the air or risk their credibility with their viewers. They saw what happened to Colbert...

Same with me

They get worse by day

I feel MSNBC still has more progressive and Democratic guests than any other morning show. They certainly don't from my experience espouse Republican positions and will present negative views on the Trump administration and cabinet members.

the show. Which is why you don't see them sitting around the table with their guests. Their guests are in the studio in New York or are also remote. Lemire often runs the show for them when they are away, which is more often now than when they were doing it in New York.

And you can be sure that as soon as they get a talking to, they will shift the narrative to go back to ask kissing.
I made the mistake of believing that they were on the side of democracy, and we all know how that turned out.
My husband and I used to watch them every single day and after the election, we both made the decision to not watch any news whatsoever. We do all of our independent research and cross check and verify everything that we read. Network TV and cable TV are no longer a part of that.

I'd really like to know.

And then just do extensive searches to verify whatever the information is.
I love to research things though, so it’s kind of enjoyable in a way to look up information and to try to ascertain the validity of any particular claim.
There’s just so much false information available that it it’s no wonder people live in an alternate reality. Completely aside from politics, I am fed Facebook posts regarding shows that I’ve watched and I can 100% say that many of these so-called articles are completely fabricated lies. It’s crazy that these magazines are able to post information without any kind of penalty.
As part of my job, I have to be on social media quite a bit and the stuff that’s out there that people believe is wild. It’s no wonder that the world is the mess that it is.

Anybody who shows up at a trump residence, kneepads at the ready, gets deleted from my watch list. Expunging Joe and Mika wasn't quite as satisfying as doing away with Bill Maher---but it was close...

...and how they fawned over his 'great' kids....i think they are doing ok. not great but ok.

Then I settle in to watch Colbert's show that I recorded the night before.

And I enjoy every last one of them is more enjoyable than watching capitulation on parade.

that stupid? Yes they were that STUPID.

I had even watched him back in Scarborough Country, which was 1000 years ago it seems. The joke after morning Joe started was that he needed a third show so we could learn what his middle name was.

After their pilgrimage to Turd-a-Lago, I have not watched them, not once. And they were on every fucking morning in my stupid house for YEARS. I feel like a moron for having wasted all those hours making the assumption that he was anything but a narcissistic, good old boy. I AM SO MAD AT MYSELF FOR ALLOWING MYSELF TO BE DUPED BY THIS ABBOTT AND COSTELLO TEAM OF ASSHOLES.

There, I’ve said it.

Joe is one of the most obnoxious TV personalities I've ever witnessed. Even though he occasionally has his moments of surprising clarity, it isn't worth watching that massive ego every day, especially so early in the morning.

"What Price Fascism"?

Tuned in for a few seconds this morning. Saw them talking about "car companies expect big gains under Donnie Dipshit"???

It just shows that there is a "price" we are willing to pay for Fascism.

Their entire show....HELL! The entire fucking American "press" can just fucking ask; "what price will you lose your soul for"?

"What price will you accept to fire up the ovens at the concentration camps?"

I don't know about you, but that Nazi fuckstick could give me a billion fucking dollars, and it wouldn't be enough for my fucking soul'!

Watching the "press" normalize this fucking monster, is like going to dinner at Jeffrey Dahmer's house, because his risotto is to die for.

Even after all we know, I guess we are still stuck in the; "well, Hitler did some good shit for the economy" loop.

Good to know how fucking cheap American Democracy is.

And I’m not on “X” either.

there are no presidential campaigns fighting for votes at the moment. Be patient. Things will return to normal soon enough.

Repenting Republicans…

Joe and Mika are now doing the show in Florida and have other show members back in the studio in NYC. I do like hearing from the guests who come on the show, some really solid Dems. News is fast moving these days and they catch members of Congress and reporters who are regulars on the show giving us a rundown of what is going on.