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Celerity

(53,591 posts)
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 12:26 AM Aug 2025

The Mystery of Continuing Democratic Support for Offensive Arms to Israel



https://prospect.org/blogs-and-newsletters/tap/2025-08-05-mystery-of-continuing-democratic-support-offensive-arms-israel/



Even though few of Gaza’s buildings remain standing, even though Gazans continue to starve, Bibi Netanyahu has decided his work is not yet done. Officials in his office have told Israeli reporters that he is considering a new offensive that will send Israeli troops into the few remaining areas of Gaza not yet attacked. Those are the areas in which the 20 remaining Israeli hostages are held, and what’s left of Hamas has made clear that if their hostage-holders come under attack, they’ll kill the remaining hostages.

Israeli opposition to this unending war has now reached its highest levels. Israelis had become accustomed to relatively short wars before this one; that’s the only kind of war a small nation can wage without major disruptions to its economy and daily life. As Israeli military and intelligence officials say that Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Iranian nuclear threat have all been crippled, the war’s sole remaining raison d’être is Bibi’s determination to keep two overtly racist, far-right parties in his coalition lest his government fall apart, prompting new elections and a possible jail sentence should he be convicted of having accepted bribes. Actually, that’s been the war’s raison d’être for some time now—only now, all the ostensible raisons d’être have been dispelled.

Which raises the question of why 17 Democratic senators last week voted against two resolutions authored by Bernie Sanders that would have halted the sale of offensive weapons to Israel. One resolution called for a halt to sales of offensive weapons only, so that, for instance, the sale of the kind of anti-missile weapons that make up Israel’s “Golden Dome” could still go forward. The other resolution called for a halt to the sale of tens of thousands of fully automatic assault rifles, now used by government forces in the West Bank, under the command of racist extremist Itamar Ben-Gvir, to attack and dispossess the Palestinians who live there.

Sanders has previously put such resolutions before the Senate as the Gaza War has bloodily dragged on, but this marked the first time that a majority of Democratic senators—27—had voted for one or both. (Twelve of those 27 had opposed similar versions of those resolutions when they came before the Senate in April.) Yet despite the fact that such weapons sales will only contribute to the continuing destruction of Gaza and seizure of the West Bank, despite the fact that these resolutions came up for a vote at a time when Israel’s policy of inflicting mass starvation on Palestinians was still proceeding, 17 Democratic senators still joined every Republican in voting no on both. They were Colorado’s Bennet and Hickenlooper, Connecticut’s Blumenthal, New Jersey’s Booker, Washington’s Cantwell, Delaware’s Coons, Nevada’s Cortez Masto and Rosen, Pennsylvania’s Fetterman, New York’s Gillibrand and Schumer, New Hampshire’s Hassan, California’s Padilla and Schiff, Michigan’s Peters, Virginia’s Warner, and Oregon’s Wyden.

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A Gallup poll taken last month showed that just 32 percent of the public, and just 8 percent of Democrats, now support Israel’s war on Gaza. That’s 8 percent. Eight. VIII.

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fujiyamasan

(1,176 posts)
1. I'm surprised the resolutions got as much support as they did
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 02:05 AM
Aug 2025

When I look at the list, it’s not surprising who voted against it.

Given AIPAC’s stranglehold on both parties and its immense lobbying power, and of course the historical relationship between the US and Israel, it was never going to be easy to get anything critical of Israel anywhere through the senate.

maxrandb

(17,155 posts)
2. Sure, the problem is a minority of Democratic Senators
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 07:42 AM
Aug 2025

NOT every single solitary Retrumplican Senator?

Guess we better get rid of those 17 Dems, right?

That will surely make the Senate better, right?

I mean, it must be those 17 Dems that caused ALL 53 RETRUMPLICAN SENATORS to vote against the amendment, right?

There's something I read in some book once;

"Blind guides! You strain out a gnat from your cup, but swallow a camel"

Celerity

(53,591 posts)
3. Apparently you missed the part about EIGHT per cent of Democrats supporting Israel's war on Gaza.
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 08:43 AM
Aug 2025

Those Dems voting to give more OFFENSIVE weapons to a war criminal government puts our party in an extremely negative light on the issue with a staggeringly high percentage of our own voters, and also independent voters.

Fuck Republicans. I have zero expectations about the fascist scum to ever do the right thing. But I do want OUR own Party to not join in with them. I do want those Dems to vote the way the extraordinarily high number of our voters want them to vote and to not further arm a war criminal government.

That is hardly an unrealistic stance IMHO, but your mileage may vary.

maxrandb

(17,155 posts)
4. I agree with you, to a point
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 09:25 AM
Aug 2025

the price we have paid for "holding Democratic politicians accountable", is Donnie fucking Dipshit, with a trifecta and a 6-3 majority on the highest court in the land.

To me, that is too high a price.

We need to concentrate on ONE THING! That one thing is crawling on our bellies for a thousand miles over broken glass TO ELECT EVERY GOD DAMNED DEMOCRAT WE CAN, from President, to County Dog Catcher, to PTA Chair.

Stopping this fascist genocide shit, whether in Gaza, Ukraine, or here AT HOME is ONLY doable with a Democratic political majority.

Everything else...AND I MEAN EVERYTHING else, is just a distraction to the ONLY goal we should have...stomping these MAGAt fucksticks into the ash-heep of history.

Celerity

(53,591 posts)
5. Dems voting to send billions upon billions of dollars in offensive military aid to Israel hurts us with our own voters,
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 09:41 AM
Aug 2025

who overwhelmingly do NOT want it sent.

Telling them (our Dem voters) to basically piss off hardly is a way to boost overall turnout and/or enthusiasm (it has national negative implications), and that in turn hinders us in the fight to get rid of as many Rethugs (at every level) across the board.

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