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Polybius

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Wed Aug 6, 2025, 09:52 PM Aug 2025

US Sen. Cory Booker Refuses to Endorse Zohran Mamdani for NYC Mayor

US Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) declined to endorse New York Assemblymember Zohran Mamdani in his bid for New York City mayor, underscoring a simmering divide within the Democratic party over whether to embrace the anti-Israel politician.

Booker, a former presidential candidate known for his progressive rhetoric and background in community activism, has often walked a careful line when it comes to the party’s internal divisions. When asked last week by CNN reporter Manu Raju whether he would support Mamdani, a far-left democratic socialist, Booker said, “I have learned a long time ago, to let New York politics be New York politics. We have enough challenges in New Jersey.”

Citing heated gubernatorial and legislative races, Booker said his energy will be devoted to his home state of New Jersey before adding, “New York City, I love you. You’re my neighbor. You’re about 10 miles from where I live. You guys figure out your elections. I’m going to be focused on mine.”

Booker’s response came after he dodged an initial question from Raju asking if the senator would support Mamdani, who won the New York City Democratic mayoral in June.


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US Sen. Cory Booker Refuses to Endorse Zohran Mamdani for NYC Mayor (Original Post) Polybius Aug 2025 OP
Disappointing cilla4progress Aug 2025 #1
Agree. A better answer: "I will support my Party's nominee." NM Grins Aug 2025 #3
If you read his actual quote that's basically what he said. yardwork Aug 2025 #100
Uhhh, Mamdani *IS* the party's nominee Bluetus Aug 2025 #305
but not unexpected -- Booker's campaigns were greatly assisted by Jewish power brokers (Shmuley, Boteach) cadoman Aug 2025 #106
Or maybe this has nothing to do with Jewish "power brokers" yardwork Aug 2025 #108
you tend to dance with the one that brought you cadoman Aug 2025 #114
Cuomo is not going to win. yardwork Aug 2025 #116
everyone thought Mamdani would not win either cadoman Aug 2025 #121
Of course a lot can happen before the election. yardwork Aug 2025 #123
Exacty - and it is a Trifecta Year in His State JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #142
I didn't know that. Makes perfect sense. yardwork Aug 2025 #145
Exactly - and I think JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #151
There's no reason for Mamdani's supporters to want Booker's endorsement. yardwork Aug 2025 #154
Agreed JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #162
You'll be sad to see that Booker has promised to work every day on the Virginia Attorney General race muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #264
This is for a primary. yardwork Aug 2025 #267
I sure as hell hope he wouldn't support Jones when he's running against another Democrat, and then ignore him muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #270
Yes, the VA Atty General race is far more important right now. yardwork Aug 2025 #287
Mamdani's JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #298
I think this whole thing is an excuse to complain about AIPAC and Jews. yardwork Aug 2025 #306
Well, one DUer said "His time for electioneering needs to be focused on the people of NJ." muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #344
I do JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #295
Wow, didn't know that re R Stone & Keene. electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #302
That's what the people JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #361
As it is said - Stay Safe out there! electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #372
Oh that's wonderful JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #293
"His time for electioneering needs to be focused on the people of NJ" is not longer operative, then? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #345
You really think JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #355
If you assume Booker lies, isn't that a bit unsupportive? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #356
I'm 100% in a position to be laughing JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #360
Well, I'm glad you're here. Keep on informing us, and stay safe out there... Hekate Aug 2025 #375
I just read JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #376
Any moment now someone's going to stop saying "AIPAC" and say "It's all about the Benjamins"... Hekate Aug 2025 #380
I descend from it JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #381
Hurray for the UUs. 😉 When we finally tied the knot, we went to the UU minister, and my 2 kids... Hekate Aug 2025 #383
This message was self-deleted by its author electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #288
+1. But it would have to be a singular master of statecraft with the intelligence, astuteness and charisma vanessa_ca Aug 2025 #134
We need him in New Jersey- tri Fecta year JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #140
OK so. If I remember correctly (sure to be corrected) Cory used to be similarly dismissed back when. UTUSN Aug 2025 #2
Trump supports Sliwa, and Adams, and now Cuomo Prairie Gates Aug 2025 #4
He supports Ciatarelli in NJ Governor's Race in November JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #200
A decision based solely on principle BeyondGeography Aug 2025 #5
Right, nothing to do with AIPAC Sewa Aug 2025 #11
+1 Emile Aug 2025 #102
Whoa JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #152
NYC'r. I've hung out in Bergan County for over 60 yrs. Good Luck to my Neighbor State NJ! Stay Blue! electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #292
Is "principle" the new euphemism for the dollar? nt jrthin Aug 2025 #132
No JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #153
Cory's too smart to go for the media "okey-doke". oasis Aug 2025 #6
So supporting the Democratic nominee for a city that's directly tied to millions of your own voters is the 'okey-doke'? Celerity Aug 2025 #19
FFS, all he said was, "I have learned a long time ago, to let New York politics be New York politics. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #28
I don't hate Booker at all. I DO hate Trump, who's now in direct contact w/ serial sexual harasser/sore loser Cuomo Celerity Aug 2025 #30
Bashing Booker only helps Trump. nt SunSeeker Aug 2025 #32
I am not 'bashing' Booker at all. That is a flat out false frame you are trying to construct. Celerity Aug 2025 #33
No, you are the one constructing false framing, Celerity. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #36
That is a ridiculously false leap and a personal smear of me to say I am implying Booker is a 'traitor'. To disagree Celerity Aug 2025 #42
See my post #46 below. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #51
You are way out of bounds with your multiple false smears of me, falsely trying to Celerity Aug 2025 #55
You accused Booker of "posturing" and refusing an "impactful" endorsement. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #60
I said NYC, which is right across the Hudson River from NJ and immensely linked to NJ at a multiplicity of levels is Celerity Aug 2025 #62
I can see why you're feeling defensive, but you got yourself well into the mix. Yardwork is right. Hekate Aug 2025 #242
You've associated yourself with a lot of nonsense in this thread. yardwork Aug 2025 #169
Exactly, but it's how the disinformation mongers work it. Nixie Aug 2025 #189
Agree! MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #192
Thank you, yardwork, for your succinct summary Hekate Aug 2025 #230
endorsements from outside Senators are extremely rare -- just Sanders in 2017 by my count cadoman Aug 2025 #110
Which begs the question... yardwork Aug 2025 #198
high level psy-op masquerading as news -- anti-Mamdani coalition benefits cadoman Aug 2025 #202
It's disappointing to see so many DUers follow suit. yardwork Aug 2025 #204
that's why it's a high level psy-op: most can't see that it's not news cadoman Aug 2025 #353
Hmmm. Trump is inserting himself into NYC mayoral politics, so there is definitely one person who benefits... Hekate Aug 2025 #234
Note that Booker is African American and Mamdani is African American and Muslim. yardwork Aug 2025 #237
Gods, I hate this wild call for self-destruction of and by Dems Hekate Aug 2025 #243
There's a lot of antisemitism in this thread, too. yardwork Aug 2025 #244
Yes there is & they're hardly being bothered with "coding. " Looks like NYC mayoral race is a proxy war... Hekate Aug 2025 #253
Not supporting Democratic candidates in general elections only helps Trump muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #64
He IS supporting our Candidates IN NJ this year JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #160
I don't understand why "are you going to support him?" can't just be answered with "yes" muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #163
I'm saying JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #175
Booker not getting reelected to the Senate only helps Trump. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #197
Christ, it's easy to see why the Democratic Party is floundering muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #203
Mamdani has a 30% approval rating according to your own YouGov link. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #281
A better net popularity rating that any other NY Democrat muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #342
Which is my point. Mamdani does indeed have a good chance of winning his NYC race. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #343
Booker, who endorsed a Republican Independent, and"reached out" to Adams muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #346
He endorsed Bloomberg when they were both mayors working to pass gun safety laws together. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #348
Numerous people in this thread have bullshitted about Booker chickening out of supporting a Democrat muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #349
Numerous people in this thread have "bullshitted" as you put it, but it wasn't the Booker supporters. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #350
"...chickening out..." MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #384
1hank you. Divisive myths of Establishment vs Progressive, the Age Wars, slandering Dems as corrupt, betsuni Aug 2025 #40
Don't forget the "vaccines are bad" woo woo branch. yardwork Aug 2025 #117
Exactly, it's a constant disinformation whirlybird. Nixie Aug 2025 #191
It's exhausting, isn't it? yardwork Aug 2025 #112
Yes, and it just plays into the hands of Republicans. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #199
He's beloved JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #156
Sen Cory Booker does a Good Job Cha Aug 2025 #7
So true Cha! I'm very impressed how Cory is oasis Aug 2025 #10
Exactly, oasis... We are so Likeminded on Cha Aug 2025 #12
P.S. I like the way Sen Booker Cha Aug 2025 #13
Your open approval of a major Democrat refusing to support the Dem mayoral nominee in a contentious race is telling. Celerity Aug 2025 #22
The same people who haven't shut up for ten years about an actress not endorsing their beloved candidate are now ok... Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2025 #25
Your open bashing of a Democratic Senator is telling. Mamdani has a double digit polling lead. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #29
Wilfully false framing you are trying to erect. I am not 'bashing' Booker at all. Celerity Aug 2025 #34
Yes, you are bashing Booker. And you are the one constructing "false framing." SunSeeker Aug 2025 #37
Disagreeing with Booker is not bashing Booker. If disagreeing with a Democrat is now bashing them, then there are Celerity Aug 2025 #41
You're not just disagreeing, you're suggesting he's a hypocrite and traitor. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #46
You falsely saying (3 times now) I am 'implying Booker's a traitor' is an outrageous direct smear and personal attack. Celerity Aug 2025 #48
Yes, you absolutely implied it. You brought up Alsobrooks. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #50
You are the one who injected the whole 'traitor' wording, and tryied to false associate me with it by saying Celerity Aug 2025 #58
See my post #60. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #61
You are all over the thread with repeated attacks on me. I am simply replying to your multiple replies to me that you Celerity Aug 2025 #65
This is not about you, Celerity. yardwork Aug 2025 #172
Y'all made it about her. Scrivener7 Aug 2025 #177
It was made about me and certainly not by my choice. I simply responded in my defence to multiple personal attacks and Celerity Aug 2025 #179
No, Celerity, you made it about you, and you were the one who started attacking. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #188
And here you go again. Proving my point. You keep coming at me over and over. Celerity Aug 2025 #211
No, wrong again. It looks like Booker is being wrongfully smeared. Nixie Aug 2025 #220
Celerity, every post you cite is in response to your posts, and YOU started it with your post #19. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #280
Again you misrepresent what I said. I was criticising the support of a specific action (Booker not endorsing Mamdani) Celerity Aug 2025 #294
No, you attacked DUers for supporting Booker. Again, you refuse to answer my question and continue to deflect. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #314
You've been, on and off, having go after go at me for over TWENTY straight hours now in this thread, starting with post Celerity Aug 2025 #321
Again, what did you mean by "telling" in your post #22? SunSeeker Aug 2025 #330
The "open approval" is hilarious. We supporters of Democrats on a forum supporting Democrats betsuni Aug 2025 #351
Right? SunSeeker Aug 2025 #352
Why did you frame algemeiner.com as a "NYC Jewish newspaper"? lapucelle Aug 2025 #366
What are you talking about? The website the OP linked to is the online presence for The Alegemeiner Journal (aka The Celerity Aug 2025 #373
Where does it say "NYC Jewish newspaper"? N/T lapucelle Aug 2025 #378
Where does it say "NYC Jewish newspaper"? N/T lapucelle Aug 2025 #379
Mamdani is popular among Democratic voters over the whole US muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #67
Excuse what? yardwork Aug 2025 #124
He's failed to support a Democrat who has a general election this year muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #133
You may not fully understand U.S. politics. yardwork Aug 2025 #141
Well, I am a U.S. citizen and I definitely understand U. S. politics Just_Vote_Dem Aug 2025 #147
Did you feel the same about Rashida Tlaib? yardwork Aug 2025 #148
LOL. I don't have time to play "Gotcha!" with you n/t Just_Vote_Dem Aug 2025 #157
I'll take that as a no. yardwork Aug 2025 #165
You don't speak for me Just_Vote_Dem Aug 2025 #167
But, here are just some of the Democrats I support Just_Vote_Dem Aug 2025 #168
If it helps, then yes, I think Tlaib was dumb and hurt the Democrats muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #161
"Nefarious"? Yes, you've identified the nefarious bit here: muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #149
Babyish. /nt yardwork Aug 2025 #150
No, I don't think Booker is being "babyish" muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #155
Booker, as Senator, runs statewide, not just among Dems. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #190
Which puts Mamdani among the most popular Democrats asked about muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #201
Of course it is not wrong to support Democrats. You should support Booker. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #290
Those people don't vote here JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #196
"Your open approval..." yardwork Aug 2025 #241
You wilfully left off a lot of what I said, you took a small part and are now trying to spin it as if I was taking issue Celerity Aug 2025 #248
As has been pointed out, it was not a "refusal" it was a rather graceful dodge. If he had ... Hekate Aug 2025 #254
Exactly Lulu KC Aug 2025 #16
Yes.. who writes that "headline"? It's completely Cha Aug 2025 #21
The Algemeiner Journal, a NYC-based Jewish newspaper, wrote that headline. Celerity Aug 2025 #38
Kinda makes my point about why it was smart for Booker to stay out of the NYC race. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #44
Algemeiner is a right wing source. lapucelle Aug 2025 #214
Wow, thanks for discovering this! mcar Aug 2025 #215
I always post the link rather than anchor text. lapucelle Aug 2025 #225
Serious question - have you therefore alerted on the OP? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #216
You mean the hit and run OP who hasn't bothered to post in their thread? yardwork Aug 2025 #217
Has anyone alerted? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #222
I did. It failed, obviously. yardwork Aug 2025 #226
Thank you (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #232
Baiting posts. I'm glad folks are noticing. thought crime Aug 2025 #263
My response was to the person who posted the giant picture of the Algemeiner headline and story. lapucelle Aug 2025 #252
Brooklyn's Hasidic community is extremely conservative. yardwork Aug 2025 #265
Politically, afaict American Hasids are more closely aligned w American Evangelicals than w Democrats Hekate Aug 2025 #297
Agree on all points. yardwork Aug 2025 #307
Link washing the source and then a mischaracterization of it as a "NYC Jewish newspaper"... lapucelle Aug 2025 #367
From Pew Research Center Re Orthodox Jews electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #309
Indeed it is. And no, it does not reflect the opinions of most Jewish Americans or Jewish New Yorkers. lapucelle Aug 2025 #313
See my #309 Post electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #310
Boom! Nixie Aug 2025 #227
TY for this info. electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #308
Thank you, Cha! SunSeeker Aug 2025 #39
Hey SunSeeker! Cha Aug 2025 #52
Aloha, Cha! Lulu KC Aug 2025 #43
Aloha to you, Lulu! Cha Aug 2025 #240
You are absolutely correct! He should be able to endorse or not-endorse whomever he wants or doesn't want to. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #74
Senator Booker is going a tremendous job LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #249
Yes, he is very good n/t Just_Vote_Dem Aug 2025 #250
That's terrible. H2O Man Aug 2025 #8
Has Booker made any endorsement for NYC mayor since he became a senator? W_HAMILTON Aug 2025 #9
I'm also unable to find an instance radical noodle Aug 2025 #15
Agreed Lulu KC Aug 2025 #17
I tend to agree that it isn't his business, one way or the other, Jack Valentino Aug 2025 #20
Your old road is rapidly aging Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #14
Good grief. Booker is at least a generation younger than the geriatric set in charge. Hekate Aug 2025 #291
It's not the age of the senator the lyrics refer to Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #296
Uh-huh Hekate Aug 2025 #300
If Mamdani needs every Democrat in the United States to endorse him to win MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY... W_HAMILTON Aug 2025 #339
There is a significant difference between a spontaneous, unsolicited formal endorsement Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #363
Shameful because it really isn't hard vanessa_ca Aug 2025 #18
This! calimary Aug 2025 #24
Yes, it kinda is hard. Booker is respecting the will of his voters. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #54
Booker played it fine -- his comment is not the news -- the lede is buried cadoman Aug 2025 #122
It's negative framing, but it's the truth and there's a lot of disappointment about this the party needs to address vanessa_ca Aug 2025 #126
Were you this upset with Rashida Tlaib urging her constituents not to support Harris? yardwork Aug 2025 #128
🤔 crickets sheshe2 Aug 2025 #331
I see it as a decade-long effort to divide Democrats. yardwork Aug 2025 #127
There is No Shame on Sen Booker.. it is Cha Aug 2025 #23
The irony is that the Journal cited in the OP obviously thinks it's a good thing Booker didn't endorse. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #53
That is Ironic... I went to the link Cha Aug 2025 #57
I don't understand what the big hoopla is about. sheshe2 Aug 2025 #332
Right, she... No Reason At All for Cha Aug 2025 #334
Made up outrage, Cha. sheshe2 Aug 2025 #336
It's like Booker stood them up at the altar. betsuni Aug 2025 #341
I don't understand what the big hoopla is about, either MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #385
Unbelievable. sheshe2 Aug 2025 #386
It's stubbornly nasty when there's an almost religious fervor that only they are right, moral, smarter, betsuni Aug 2025 #387
Believe them, when they show you who they are..... Follow the flow of $ to Booker from AIPAC Bread and Circuses Aug 2025 #26
The Times They Are A-Changin' vanessa_ca Aug 2025 #31
Honestly, the way dems have rolled over Hornedfrog2000 Aug 2025 #27
What does "the way dems have rolled over" mean? betsuni Aug 2025 #49
What do you mean.? Dems are NOT "rolling Over... " Cha Aug 2025 #59
What are you talking about? mcar Aug 2025 #218
No answer to the several questioners, eh? Hekate Aug 2025 #304
The "us," "support us," is funny. betsuni Aug 2025 #318
Yes indeed. Also.... Hekate Aug 2025 #320
Booker was the only Dem to vote in favor of Charles Kushner (felon) to be Ambassador to France IcyPeas Aug 2025 #35
How very...... end- justifies-the-means and CYA of him. Even if it's not ethical or progressive of him. Ping Tung Aug 2025 #45
Mamdani is winning by double digits. Booker is just making sure he wins reelection. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #47
All throughout 2024 Zohran demanded that Kamala Harris "earn" his support Justice Brandeis Aug 2025 #56
Is this any different than Rashida Tlaib refusing to endorse VP Harris? Are the same folks who are upset about lostincalifornia Aug 2025 #70
I had never heard of the source of the article cited in the OP DFW Aug 2025 #63
I posted info on the source in post 38 Celerity Aug 2025 #66
I just saw that, thanks. It does put a few things in perspective DFW Aug 2025 #87
AOC for Speaker of The House if we retake the majority. CentralMass Aug 2025 #68
What does that have to do with a NYC Mayoral election in 2025? MichMan Aug 2025 #71
I know, right? Blurting out and injecting random off-topic thoughts seems... odd. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #75
It has to do with my opinion that the dem leadership could stand a refresh. CentralMass Aug 2025 #103
The sooner the better. Xavier Breath Aug 2025 #271
The moderate and conservative Dems will never vote for her over Jeffries. They (with Pelosi aiding them) blocked AOC Celerity Aug 2025 #72
I see no difference in Rashida Tlaib refusing to endorse VP Harris, and this. lostincalifornia Aug 2025 #69
Well... one BIG difference is that Booker isn't encouraging people to cast a protest-vote or to abstain from voting. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #76
Yes, and thank-you. One additional point is that Booker is a Senator from New Jersey, NOT New York. lostincalifornia Aug 2025 #118
I know, right? I like Senator Booker... and apparently so do his constituents. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #130
Love him! JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #144
The only difference is one is a mayoral race being nationalized and the other was an actual national... PunkinPi Aug 2025 #78
All excellent points, and as you point out indirectly, Booker is a Senator from New Jersey, NOT NY. lostincalifornia Aug 2025 #119
I blame our democratic leadership. Emile Aug 2025 #73
What a surprise. As it pertains to this non-issue... who specifically do you "blame" and for what? Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #79
Do you support Zohran Mamdani? Emile Aug 2025 #82
I support Senator Booker. He's free to remain noncommittal. At least he's not urging people to vote "Uncommitted" or * Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #85
So you can't say that you support the democratic nominee Emile Aug 2025 #86
So you can't answer my original question without deflecting? Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #90
Seriously, it's expected that democratic leaders Emile Aug 2025 #93
Well, if you don't want to answer my question, that's fine. I don't have time for games. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #94
Listen, I already answered your question. You Emile Aug 2025 #95
For what? mcar Aug 2025 #221
Perspective no_hypocrisy Aug 2025 #77
With all this faux-outrage, one might falsely assume he'd told voters to vote for "UNCOMMITTED" or to vote * Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #80
Both are valid points. DFW Aug 2025 #88
Adams and Cuomo both met with Krasnov gab13by13 Aug 2025 #81
Why in the world would a Senator from New Hersey endorse a mayoral candidate in another state? Ursus Rex Aug 2025 #83
Because nearly half a million who live in New Jersey work in New York City? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #137
Please point to where Sen. Booker ever mcar Aug 2025 #224
Why does that matter? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #231
I said the same thing Just_Vote_Dem Aug 2025 #235
So you can't point to it ever happening mcar Aug 2025 #260
You're welcome - as long as you answer my question muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #262
I asked first mcar Aug 2025 #301
What a waste-of-space answer. And now we know he did endorse for NYC mayor before. muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #347
TY for pointing that out, mcar... Good on Sen Booker Cha Aug 2025 #256
Sen. Booker has been a stalwart fighter mcar Aug 2025 #261
Yeah, that's really "smart" and "visionary" Cha Aug 2025 #286
Booker has been amazing, but some RW pub said something mcar Aug 2025 #303
I expect the next time someone starts a thread about how all the govs are unacceptable to run for POTUS... Hekate Aug 2025 #316
Please invite me mcar Aug 2025 #322
Should be exciting Hekate Aug 2025 #328
They still don't get to vote in NYC just because they work there MichMan Aug 2025 #289
I'm sure their feelings are enormously hurt by this fact of life, too Hekate Aug 2025 #315
Horrible article... Mike Nelson Aug 2025 #84
"You guys figure out your elections. I'm going to be focused on mine" Torchlight Aug 2025 #89
Well, you see... there's the thing... you're logical and rational. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #91
And yet Cory Booker enthusiastically voted yes to make ex-con Kushner ambassador to France. Scrivener7 Aug 2025 #92
Enthusiastically? Was he dancing? Cheering? Waving flags and banners? Wearing a party hat? Holding balloons? Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #96
Your support for his vote for ex-con Kushner is noted. Scrivener7 Aug 2025 #101
😂😜🤣 Oh good grief! That's quite a leap... Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #129
OK, and? misanthrope Aug 2025 #97
He just closed the door JBTaurus83 Aug 2025 #98
Misleading headline. Read Booker's actual quote. yardwork Aug 2025 #99
OK, but right now, don't you think it's important that every Democratic candidate gets full-throated support from Scrivener7 Aug 2025 #105
I think it's a mistake for Cuomo to run. yardwork Aug 2025 #107
Nope. The DNC has nothing to do with Cuomo running as I. Scrivener7 Aug 2025 #111
How do you know what the DNC is doing? yardwork Aug 2025 #115
Do show where I ever said I was writing him off. Scrivener7 Aug 2025 #139
I haven't been able to find that yet. muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #164
It's right in the OP. yardwork Aug 2025 #166
That says something quite different. muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #174
This article is a deliberate attempt to stir up controversy where there is none Quiet Em Aug 2025 #104
This. And the antisemitism in this thread is appalling. yardwork Aug 2025 #109
Perhaps, but it sure seems that a good number in this thread are not happy that a New Jersey Senator isn't lostincalifornia Aug 2025 #120
There is no benefit to this division Quiet Em Aug 2025 #125
Nailed it! Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #131
If he does, he'll be dead to Wall Street. Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #113
Why would that be a point of contention? JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #176
Happy for them. Not much has fallen off the table for me and mine. Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #187
What does that have to do JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #193
You seem to be inventing offense where none is meant. Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #207
Thank you for understanding that JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #212
One thing is for certain: Mamdani's candidacy is great for the Democratic Party. David__77 Aug 2025 #135
Good - Sherrill JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #136
It's the same old divisive bullshit stirred up by people who want Republicans to win. yardwork Aug 2025 #143
I think so JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #178
We saw it in 2015 and it was proven to be Russian trolls. yardwork Aug 2025 #181
The good thing is JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #184
I wish I could say the same of my ethnic group. yardwork Aug 2025 #186
Who CARES? democratsruletheday Aug 2025 #138
I co-sign this post JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #146
The prospect of a progressive Muslim mayor in NYC is inconsequential? BeyondGeography Aug 2025 #159
I sure hope Mamdani is better at politics than some of his supporters are. yardwork Aug 2025 #170
Populist conspiracy theories of evil corrupt enemies who will stop at nothing to thwart their heroes, betsuni Aug 2025 #205
Some of it is entitlement and complacency. yardwork Aug 2025 #206
misleading headline - declined is 'different' in meaning than 'refused' happy feet Aug 2025 #158
He's not gonna do anything to jeopardize the flow of that sweet, sweet AIPAC money nt Rob H. Aug 2025 #171
Why don't you run for senator, then? yardwork Aug 2025 #173
They can't - not in NJ JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #185
It's not being a member of the purity police to point out that there's no way Rob H. Aug 2025 #324
There it is. nt LexVegas Aug 2025 #180
It is several places on this thread JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #183
Strange that some have no problem with the AAPAC, the Arab American lostincalifornia Aug 2025 #194
It's no longer a code when most people easily understand what is meant. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #210
It's blatant JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #258
It's weird and disheartening to see how so many places online allow it. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #259
We just have to stand up JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #299
A tiny portion of the US population, yet somehow responsible for the troubles of the whole country Hekate Aug 2025 #325
I know exactly what you mean. lostincalifornia Aug 2025 #335
Or mine JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #182
IF? They've given him $870K+ and he posed in a group photo with war criminal Netanyahu in DC less than a month ago nt Rob H. Aug 2025 #251
Deal with it JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #257
Only 8% of Democrats back what blood-soaked genocide enthusiast Netanyahu Rob H. Aug 2025 #323
Sources? Links? Photos? Hekate Aug 2025 #326
It was a Gallup poll taken literally last month Rob H. Aug 2025 #377
So it WOULD hurt Mamdani! JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #357
Stop Trying to Insult Sen Booker. Why Should Cha Aug 2025 #337
My takeaway from this thread is that I'm beyond sick and tired of hearing about the NYC mayoral race BannonsLiver Aug 2025 #195
"Anti-Israel politician" Mad_Machine76 Aug 2025 #208
The source is a right-wing rag. Obviously. yardwork Aug 2025 #229
From what I've read... GiqueCee Aug 2025 #209
I can only see maybe a third of the responses... demmiblue Aug 2025 #213
Well I certainly hope you can see mine! yardwork Aug 2025 #219
He is correct to point out that he's in New Jersey, and New Yorkers can figure this out. Is he wrong? Hekate Aug 2025 #223
Apparently, he's a cowardly traitor. And more. yardwork Aug 2025 #228
Makes my head hurt Hekate Aug 2025 #233
Had to click on the link to find the name of the source: The Algemeiner. Why do I not know them? Hekate Aug 2025 #236
Right wing. yardwork Aug 2025 #238
Seems like Infighting is the intention of this OP. Brenda Aug 2025 #239
The Algemeiner, have you looked to see who reads it? Emile Aug 2025 #245
I gave it a cursory glance Brenda Aug 2025 #246
There's also an MSN article Just_Vote_Dem Aug 2025 #247
Okay, still the same thing. A nothing burger. nt Brenda Aug 2025 #255
Orthodox Jews. see my post #309 electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #311
Funny how he had no problem endorsing NYC mayoral candidates before. BlueTsunami2018 Aug 2025 #266
When did he do that? SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2025 #268
Booker previously endorsed Michael Bloomberg for mayor who was a Republican Emile Aug 2025 #269
Chuck Schumer was the only Senator to endorse Eric Adams for NYC Mayor in 2021 Quiet Em Aug 2025 #272
Booker "reached out" to Adams in 2021. Why does Booker being Mayor in 2009 matter? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #274
Booker never endorsed Eric Adams. Schumer was the only Senator that did. Quiet Em Aug 2025 #283
Not according to Wikipedia SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2025 #273
2009 endorsement: muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #275
What does reached out mean? SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2025 #278
Looks like he endorsed Bloomberg Just_Vote_Dem Aug 2025 #276
Ok thanks SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2025 #279
No idea Just_Vote_Dem Aug 2025 #282
Again, thank you SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2025 #284
You're very welcome Just_Vote_Dem Aug 2025 #285
I really like Cory, but LilElf70 Aug 2025 #277
This Algemeiner paper is a Orthodox Jewish Publication for the Hasidic Community. From Pew Reseach... electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #312
Wow.. Problem is.. "republcans" are A Cult Now and Cha Aug 2025 #338
Absolutely, NO excuses! electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #340
The OP is missing and presumed just looking for excitement. 317 posts and no sign of he who posted first. Hekate Aug 2025 #317
This is my first post in this thread True Dough Aug 2025 #354
I've occasionally noticed this also FakeNoose Aug 2025 #362
Too true Hekate Aug 2025 #364
Discovering a new nitpicking Democrat-bashing source is very very exciting! Like a dog running home betsuni Aug 2025 #369
That True Dough Aug 2025 #370
Thanks! betsuni Aug 2025 #371
So OP now that your thread has invited animosity MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #319
He ain't sayin' Hekate Aug 2025 #327
Alas, the muse of disruption has drawn her veil. betsuni Aug 2025 #329
it's... myohmy2 Aug 2025 #333
very bdamomma Aug 2025 #358
As usual, Democrats never get the benefit of the doubt, their motives assumed to be nefarious, betsuni Aug 2025 #359
And the source of the link-washed story turns out to be a right wing website lapucelle Aug 2025 #368
Yeah, there are a 1,000 more pressing things than an irrelevant endorsement. themaguffin Aug 2025 #365
Cowards!!! Initech Aug 2025 #374
Putting this in The Bopper Aug 2025 #382

Bluetus

(2,276 posts)
305. Uhhh, Mamdani *IS* the party's nominee
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:30 PM
Aug 2025

He won the primary. Cuomo is now trying to cut in as an Independent.

So, perhaps we agree that the correct response is "I absolutely support my Party's nominee. That nominee, selected by the voters of NYC, is Zohran Mamdani. He has my unqualified support. Any questions?"

F any Dem who cannot say that.

 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
106. but not unexpected -- Booker's campaigns were greatly assisted by Jewish power brokers (Shmuley, Boteach)
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 08:54 AM
Aug 2025
https://forward.com/news/337856/the-bromance-ends-what-split-cory-booker-and-shmuley-boteach/



This is an emerging wedge issue. Older voters still have unconditional allegiance to Israel, but younger voters experience the Palestinian "holocaust" firsthand through social media. MAGA has gone full-tilt in support of Israel, but that unconditional support is beginning to cost them political support.

I don't know if this is a situation where it's more beneficial to pick a side, or to try and split the difference like Harris did. The game theory seems to be if you pick Israel now you win, but Palestine seems to have more upside for future elections. If the difference can be split, I think it'll have to be done by a singular master of statecraft.

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
108. Or maybe this has nothing to do with Jewish "power brokers"
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:01 AM
Aug 2025

If you don't see a Jewish boogeyman behind every bush, it's fairly easy to see why a senator from NJ might want to tread carefully with the Cuomos in the mix.

It's Andrew Cuomo's insistence on running even though he lost the primary that is causing the problem.

 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
114. you tend to dance with the one that brought you
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:09 AM
Aug 2025

It has nothing to do with boogeymen. Booker has deep personal and financial ties to the Jewish community. It makes sense that he wouldn't overreach to endorse Mamdani, whose rhetoric towards Israel is a mixed bag.

I also checked the history of endorsements and it turns out that outside-state endorsements are extremely rare. The only instance I found of a non-NY Senator endorsing a mayoral candidate was Bernie Sanders in 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_New_York_City_mayoral_election

----

EDIT: And I do agree that the thrashing vestiges of the Cuomo dynasty are the biggest problem/potential spoiler here.

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
116. Cuomo is not going to win.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:13 AM
Aug 2025

It's a non-issue. Smart politicians don't waste political capital on non-issues.

Smart Democrats don't form circular firing squads.

 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
121. everyone thought Mamdani would not win either
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:22 AM
Aug 2025

And then he did. Cuomo was as high as 92% favored and 68% favored before the election.

https://polymarket.com/event/who-will-win-dem-nomination-for-nyc-mayor

https://polymarket.com/event/new-york-city-mayoral-election

In politics, things are certain till they're not. Don't let me steal your certainty, just offering food for thought to the forum. Old political dynasties are dynasties for a reason...

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
123. Of course a lot can happen before the election.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:34 AM
Aug 2025

However, I'm reading the room and it's telling me that old is out and new is in.

There are numerous smart reasons for Booker and other Democrats to stay out of this and not waste political capital on something that doesn't matter to the federal crisis we're facing right now.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
142. Exacty - and it is a Trifecta Year in His State
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:20 AM
Aug 2025

It's all hands on deck from the tiniest Borough Councilwoman up to our Senators and current Governor to ensure we keep our trifect.

I've lived in NJ for 19 years. I remember what a joke we were with Christie.

I do NOT want Shitarelli. Booker is beloved here. His time for electioneering needs to be focused on the people of NJ.

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
145. I didn't know that. Makes perfect sense.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:21 AM
Aug 2025

It also now makes even more sense why the usual channels are dumping on Booker over a made up issue.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
151. Exactly - and I think
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:25 AM
Aug 2025

NJ keeping it's Trifecta and VA becoming one are far more important.

There are 8.48 Million people that live in NYC.

There are 9.5 Million people that live in NJ.

There are 8.8 Million people that live in VA.

Mamdani can't do jack shit for any of us in NJ or VA. But in NJ? Senators Booker and Kim CAN.

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
154. There's no reason for Mamdani's supporters to want Booker's endorsement.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:31 AM
Aug 2025

It's just a made-up purity test with a strong odor of antisemitism thrown in.

Has Mamdani even asked for Booker's endorsement?

Ultimately it looks like a bunch of whining on behalf of a candidate who is winning.

It would be laughable if this exact behavior hadn't led to the crisis we're in.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
162. Agreed
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:43 AM
Aug 2025

Mamdani has got this. It's ONE city in NY.

We MUST keep NJ State Government Blue.

Do or die time or we will end up like Mississippi with sewage in our backyards.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
264. You'll be sad to see that Booker has promised to work every day on the Virginia Attorney General race
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 05:45 PM
Aug 2025
Booker wades into Virginia attorney general race

by Julia Manchester - 06/03/25 12:41 PM ET

Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) endorsed former Virginia Del. Jay Jones (D) for state attorney general Tuesday ahead of the primary this month, becoming the latest national Democrat to wade into Virginia’s downballot races this year.

“Jay Jones will be a tireless fighter for Virginia families as Attorney General, and that’s why I’m so excited to announce my endorsement today,” Booker said in a statement. “Jay Jones has the vision, commitment, and integrity to keep families safe and make sure every Virginian gets a fair shake in the justice system. I’ll be working every day to ensure Jay wins this race.”

Jones is running against fellow Democrat Shannon Taylor, who serves as the commonwealth’s attorney for Henrico County; the primary is June 17.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5330512-cory-booker-endorses-jay-jones/

That is presumably a huge problem for New Jersey, if Booker's time is so precious that he can't say "I support Mamdani" in an interview.

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
267. This is for a primary.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 05:52 PM
Aug 2025

The NYC mayoral primary was already held. Mamdani won.

Again, U.S. politics are a little complicated with the differing state to state timelines. A bunch of Democrats are involved in the VA primary. There's a lot at stake. As in NJ. This might be confusing to non-Americans. I get it. I'm careful what I say about the British political system because there's a lot I don't know about it.

The mayor's office in NYC is not particularly relevant to statewide or national politics, and it looks like Mamdani already has it in the bag.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
270. I sure as hell hope he wouldn't support Jones when he's running against another Democrat, and then ignore him
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:02 PM
Aug 2025

when he's running against the incumbent Republican. That would be truly shitty politicking.

You really think the VA Attorney General race is more important to NJ politics than the MYC mayor, when nearly half a million residents work there? Or to national politics? I can't believe anyone could say that with a straight face.

The thing is, people in this thread are saying that Booker doesn't have the time or resources to say "I support Mamdani". So a promise to work every day on the Jones campaign seems, by that yardstick, to be a bad move.

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
287. Yes, the VA Atty General race is far more important right now.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:42 PM
Aug 2025

The mayor's race for NYC is not very important to national politics. Also, the election will certainly be won by a Democrat, Mamdani is way ahead, etc. There's no need for Booker to expend political capital or take any risks regarding that race.

And I don't know who has said that Booker's choice of words is due to lack of time or resources. It's due to the smart decision not to weigh into a race that doesn't matter much. Every time a politician endorses someone there's a price to be paid, an opportunity cost. Booker wisely didn't take the bait.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
298. Mamdani's
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:15 PM
Aug 2025

Avid supporters aren't thinking this through. Booker's ties to AIPAC are all over this thread.

Has it occurred to them that a lot of Mamdani's voters hate AIPAC?

That a Booker endorsement would hurt him?

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
306. I think this whole thing is an excuse to complain about AIPAC and Jews.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:32 PM
Aug 2025

With a dollop of anti-Black racism thrown in.

In another thread somebody you'll recognize is complaining about Chris Cuomo demanding a similar litmus test of AOC. The irony is incredible.

Where are these litmus tests coming from? Russia.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
344. Well, one DUer said "His time for electioneering needs to be focused on the people of NJ."
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 02:54 AM
Aug 2025

And then another replied "Makes perfect sense." Who was that? Oh, it was you.

And saying VA Attorney General is more important nationally, or to NJ, than NYC mayor is just absurd. Look at what we're talking about, for a start. Look at what the world's media talks about. Your just lose all credibility by trying to pretend it.

Again, this stupid "expend political capital" phrase. Such a waste of time to read it. There is no "political capital" spent in answering a question with "yes, I support the Democratic nominee for NYC mayor", especially when Mamdani is popular with Democrats and Independents. And there's no "opportunity cost" - I suggest you look up the meaning of that term.

It's clear that several DUers hate Mamdani, and are clutching at straws to justify any way of preventing people paying attention to him and his ideas.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
295. I do
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:12 PM
Aug 2025

I absolutely believe VA is more important than NYC.

NYC always does its own thing.

On election night this November - Mamdani wins. There will accolades about his campaign and the spirit of NYC.it won't be considered a bellwether of things to come.

But VA and NJ being all Blue? Especially with the shenanigans we know are going to occur with voter intimidation?

That's a BFD.

For your own knowledge - in 1981 Roger Stone orchestrated mass voter intimidation enabling Tom Keane to win by 1,797 votes.

The legal mandate, known as a consent decree, was enacted nationwide in 1982 after Democrats sued Republicans over the blatant intimidation tactics they employed at several polling places in New Jersey’s urban minority communities during that 1981 gubernatorial race.

https://www.njspotlightnews.org/2020/11/voter-suppression-in-nj-kean-florio-election-rnc-flying-squads-roger-stone-john-roberts/

The Consent Decree is no longer in place.

VA
Trump’s DOJ Voluntarily Dismisses Case Challenging Virginia’s Voter Purge Program
https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/trumps-doj-voluntarily-dismisses-case-challenging-virginias-voter-purge-program/

It's go time in VA and NJ.

With Bookers ties to AIPAC littered throughout this thread - don't you think that would hurt Mamdani? Like a lot of his supporters hate AIPAC too.





JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
361. That's what the people
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 06:57 AM
Aug 2025

Coming after my Beloved Senator and Me on this thread don't understand. They never will.

Black women are moving with intent.

We know that the only ones who will help us are ourselves and Democratic Elected officials.

If the folks having a meltdown over Mamdani stay focused on that - that means they don't have the time or energy to stop our preparation for Self- Defense against what is coming towards us at a fast clip . . . im AmeriKKKa.

I need them distracted.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
293. Oh that's wonderful
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:51 PM
Aug 2025

That's another trifecta state! VA and NJ on deck!.

And I'm going to say - its nice to see one Black man support another.

Black folks? We've got to stick together back here in 1919.

All skin folk ain't kin folk. Like the magapubs choice for Gov in VA. She's in the sunken place with Candace Owens.

We are America too! We've been here since 1619. This one I'm on board with because Black folks can't turn our backs on other Black folks.

That might be a hard thing to read - but outside of DU? We aren't nice people anymore. We've always stood up for others only to have them spit in our faces.I hope every single member of the CBC endorses him.

He's earned it. And - he comes from a good family.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
345. "His time for electioneering needs to be focused on the people of NJ" is not longer operative, then?
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 03:00 AM
Aug 2025

Better to put time aside every day for an Attorney General race 100 miles away from his state?

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
355. You really think
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 05:29 AM
Aug 2025

He's going to be in VA every single day?

You are too much!

As my brother says -

Love, peace, and hair grease!

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
356. If you assume Booker lies, isn't that a bit unsupportive?
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 05:32 AM
Aug 2025

He said he's going to devote plenty of time to the VA AG race; and yet you worried that him answering "yes, I support Mamdani" would divert him from important NJ campaigning. I don't think you're in a position to be laughing.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
360. I'm 100% in a position to be laughing
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 06:51 AM
Aug 2025

He knows there are Black Gun Clubs popping up all over the state.

He doesn't care! I'm laughing all the way to the gun range Sunday morning.

He knows Black women in his state have more to fear from the white guy down the block than what is happening in the middle east.

We also know that the average person screaming "Genocide Joe" last year has zero fucks to give about us. We saw it, we see it. Same people were all about BLM and peaceful solutions. Where they at?
Nowhere. We are on our own in this dystopia.

You are far more upset about this than I am. This is your hill to die on. Not mine.

P.S. You called him a liar - not me.That's very unsupportive of a beloved Democratic Senator in NJ.


muriel_volestrangler
356. If you assume Booker lies, isn't that a bit unsupportive?
He said he's going to devote plenty of time to the VA AG race; and yet you worried that him answering "yes, I support Mamdani" would divert him from important NJ campaigning. I don't think you're in a position to be laughing.

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
375. Well, I'm glad you're here. Keep on informing us, and stay safe out there...
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 01:09 PM
Aug 2025

What a wretched thread.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
376. I just read
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 01:12 PM
Aug 2025

Where a longtime DUer who is Jewish and whose family fled Austria - has a daughter looking into fleeing America for Austria.

I'm not listening to non Jewish people on this issue. I'm believing what Jewish Americans tell me or write.

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
380. Any moment now someone's going to stop saying "AIPAC" and say "It's all about the Benjamins"...
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 01:54 PM
Aug 2025

As I said elsewhere, they’re hardly bothering to speak in code as it is.

You’ve got a good policy. I try to speak carefully and distinguish my own opinions/experiences from what I can verify, as it’s not my personal lineage and story — I only married in to the tribe, altho I already knew a lot.

Aaaaand, I’ve started deleting whole paragraphs again. I have to stop talking and go buy a washing machine today. The old one was only 16 or 17 years old when it chose to die mid-cycle two days ago.





JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
381. I descend from it
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 03:52 PM
Aug 2025

My great grandfather (Saba) converted to marry a green eyed strawberry blonde Jewish girl of German heritage (Grammy Hannie). My Grampa converted back to marry my Gran.

Grammy Hannie's influence is why I became a Unitarian 21 years ago. Raised in the Baptist Church, Sunday school teacher.

Also she didn't like her options for black dollies for her only great granddaughter (who was mixed race) so she would spend big bucks having them custom made to look like me. No one makes latkes like she did. No one.

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
383. Hurray for the UUs. 😉 When we finally tied the knot, we went to the UU minister, and my 2 kids...
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 06:09 PM
Aug 2025

…then went thru the whole Sunday School and Coming of Age program. My parents-in-law, bless them, would not enter anything called a “church” so the very small wedding took place in the lovely UU courtyard 38 years ago. (I respected that, considering what they went through in Europe in the 1930s—1940s) One of the nicest things for me about a second marriage was the number of things that didn’t intimidate me any more. Loved the holidays, but as we were the only ones left doing them and as my 2 brothers in law were not interested at all once their parents passed on, I let it go in the end after my kids were on their own.

Love the story about your Grammie Hannie and the dolls. ❤️




Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #142)

vanessa_ca

(613 posts)
134. +1. But it would have to be a singular master of statecraft with the intelligence, astuteness and charisma
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:05 AM
Aug 2025

of Barack Obama

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
140. We need him in New Jersey- tri Fecta year
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:18 AM
Aug 2025
I don't know if this is a situation where it's more beneficial to pick a side, or to try and split the difference like Harris did.


Our Governor Candidate is a solid Liberal.

He needs to spend time endorsing her, and our Assembly and Senate candidates.

MANY folks in NJ do not give a fuck about what is going on in NYC.

I'm one. Right now? This bullshit is in our way.

We MUST keep our trifecta at any and all costs - including a mayoral candidate in NYC.

We cannot be subjected to Shitarelli as our Governor.

The Far Left is showing that they do NOT Care about the health and well-being of New Jerseyans, including my constituents - with this bullshit.

They need to focus on the TWO Senators in NY. Where is the anger at them?

UTUSN

(76,834 posts)
2. OK so. If I remember correctly (sure to be corrected) Cory used to be similarly dismissed back when.
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 09:57 PM
Aug 2025

Prairie Gates

(7,157 posts)
4. Trump supports Sliwa, and Adams, and now Cuomo
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 10:09 PM
Aug 2025

Anyone who promotes any of those three on this board should probably be shown the door.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
200. He supports Ciatarelli in NJ Governor's Race in November
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:49 AM
Aug 2025

I hope Booker's endorsement of Sherrill sends him packing. I'm sick of Shitarrelli and his good buddy Trump.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
152. Whoa
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:28 AM
Aug 2025

Maybe it has something to do with pulling moderate independents to Democratic Candidates for Governor, Assembly, and State Senate in NJ this year?

Maybe he cares more about the people he represents than people in NYC.

He's SUPPOSED to.

Are you okay with NJ becoming all Red in November? Because the magapubs are ALREADY using Mamdani as a bludgeon against our Candidates.

electric_blue68

(25,781 posts)
292. NYC'r. I've hung out in Bergan County for over 60 yrs. Good Luck to my Neighbor State NJ! Stay Blue!
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:49 PM
Aug 2025

Celerity

(53,608 posts)
19. So supporting the Democratic nominee for a city that's directly tied to millions of your own voters is the 'okey-doke'?
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 11:50 PM
Aug 2025


Just last year Booker endorsed Alsobrooks in the contentious Maryland (which is far less impactful to NJ than NYC) US Senate Democratic PRIMARY. There was no 'I am not going to get involved in non NJ races' posturing from him there.

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
28. FFS, all he said was, "I have learned a long time ago, to let New York politics be New York politics.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 12:39 AM
Aug 2025

We have enough challenges in New Jersey.”

Alsobrooks was running for Senate, and Booker's a Senator. It made sense to weigh into that tight race that will determine not only who will be his colleague from Maryland, but could determine the balance of power, and who will get to decide on federal nominees.

Mamdani is running for Mayor of NYC, not federal office. And Namdani Mamdani holds a double-digit lead over Cuomo. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5439256-nyc-mayoral-race-mamdani-leads/
Mamdani does not need Booker's endorsement. All Booker's endorsement would do is potentially alienate some of Booker's New Jersey constituents, who he needs to get reelected so that Democrats can protentionally take back the Senate.

Please reserve your hate for Republicans, not our own, who are just trying to make their smartest steps to beat back the dictator in the White House.

Celerity

(53,608 posts)
30. I don't hate Booker at all. I DO hate Trump, who's now in direct contact w/ serial sexual harasser/sore loser Cuomo
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 12:52 AM
Aug 2025

trying (along with a gaggle of RW billionaires, etc) to game out a way to defeat our Democratic nominee in the general.

Celerity

(53,608 posts)
33. I am not 'bashing' Booker at all. That is a flat out false frame you are trying to construct.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 12:56 AM
Aug 2025

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
36. No, you are the one constructing false framing, Celerity.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:07 AM
Aug 2025

You are implying Booker's a traitor and a hypocrite for not explicitly endorsing Mamdani for Mayor, like he did for Alsobrooks for Senate. I explained why the two situations just aren't comparable. And, you are also suggesting that the lack of Booker's endorsement will somehow hurt Mamdani. It won't. Mamdani is winning by double digits.

Celerity

(53,608 posts)
42. That is a ridiculously false leap and a personal smear of me to say I am implying Booker is a 'traitor'. To disagree
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:24 AM
Aug 2025

with a Democrat's stance is not bashing them.

If that was the case then, as I already stated to you, there are hundreds of thousands (millions?) of DU posts over the past 24 and a half years that are 'bashing' according to your problematically expansive definition of bashing.

Celerity

(53,608 posts)
55. You are way out of bounds with your multiple false smears of me, falsely trying to
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:06 AM
Aug 2025

associate me with saying Booker is a 'traitor'. You have 3 times now said I 'am implying' he is a 'traitor'. That is an false construct that you have spun up in a repeated attempt to smear me.

I never called Booker 'a traitor' nor implied it. That is your wilfully false invented spin and to try to wrongfully associate me with such incendiary language is absolutely a personal attack upon me.

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
60. You accused Booker of "posturing" and refusing an "impactful" endorsement.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:19 AM
Aug 2025
Just last year Booker endorsed Alsobrooks in the contentious Maryland (which is far less impactful to NJ than NYC) US Senate Democratic PRIMARY. There was no 'I am not going to get involved in non NJ races' posturing from him there.


And you said,

Millions of Booker's own NJ residents (and voters) are directly and profoundly linked and tied to NYC.

This is NOT a normal NYC general. Trump is now directly in contact (aided in that by the execrable Mark Penn) with the sore loser and serial sexual harasser Cuomo, trying (along with a tonne of scumbag RW billionaires) desperately to game out a defeat of our Democratic Party's nominee in the general."



That is suggesting Booker is complicit, contrary to the interests of his voters, in Trump’s attempt to "game out a defeat of our Democratic Party's nominee in the general." In other words, you implied Booker is a traitor.

Take a deep breath, Celerity. I am not attacking you personally. I don't know you. I just disagree with your posts in this thread bashing Dem Booker.

It's 12:30 am where I'm at. I'm going to bed. Good night.



Celerity

(53,608 posts)
62. I said NYC, which is right across the Hudson River from NJ and immensely linked to NJ at a multiplicity of levels is
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:34 AM
Aug 2025

more 'impactful' on NJ than Maryland is. That is a fact.

The rest of my words you quoted do not state nor imply I am labelling Booker a 'traitor'. That wilfully loaded use of the word 'traitor' is all your false, derogatory smearing of me via your repeated attempts to link me to the word.

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
242. I can see why you're feeling defensive, but you got yourself well into the mix. Yardwork is right.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:58 PM
Aug 2025

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
169. You've associated yourself with a lot of nonsense in this thread.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:02 AM
Aug 2025

There is a definite implication in this thread that Booker is a traitor to the Democratic Party. He's also been called "cowardly," beholden to AIPAC and shadowy "Jewish power brokers," and a lot of other names here.

All because he deftly avoided being pulled into a trap. There's no need or precedent for a U.S. senator to endorse candidates for mayor.

Mamdani is way ahead and most Democrats like him. He doesn't need and afaik has not requested endorsements from out of state politicians.

It's been explained to you that NJ is facing a crucial set of elections. They need Booker at home, without distractions. WE need Booker in the senate.

The whining and purity testing on behalf of a candidate who is way ahead is a sight to see. Y'all need to calm down and learn how to win.

I sure hope Mamdani is better at politics than many of his supporters appear to be.

Nixie

(17,937 posts)
189. Exactly, but it's how the disinformation mongers work it.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:34 AM
Aug 2025

No reality about regional politics is needed.

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
230. Thank you, yardwork, for your succinct summary
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:03 PM
Aug 2025

Good lord’n’butter this thread has gotten nasty. We’re gonna snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again, aren’t we?

 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
110. endorsements from outside Senators are extremely rare -- just Sanders in 2017 by my count
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:05 AM
Aug 2025
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_New_York_City_mayoral_election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_New_York_City_mayoral_election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_New_York_City_mayoral_election

The headline really shouldn't be that any given Senator has not endorsed, because that is the norm. The headline should be given when an endorsement occurs, because that is the actual news.

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
198. Which begs the question...
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:47 AM
Aug 2025

Why was this question asked and why did the press make a headline of it? Who benefits?

 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
202. high level psy-op masquerading as news -- anti-Mamdani coalition benefits
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:57 AM
Aug 2025

Publishing the article casts Booker's neutral comment as a "non-endorsement". "Non-endorsement" is a negative framing of a neutral position, especially when there is literally no historical precedent of NJ Senators endorsing NYC mayoral candidates.

What is actually the news here is the outlets pushing this:

https://www.algemeiner.com/2025/08/04/us-sen-cory-booker-refuses-endorse-zohran-mamdani-nyc-mayor/

https://www.foxnews.com/media/sen-cory-booker-refuses-endorse-zohran-mamdani

These are big power broker outlets that clearly do not like Mamdani and want to create a perception of non-support.

 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
353. that's why it's a high level psy-op: most can't see that it's not news
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 04:18 AM
Aug 2025

The assumption is that because it's printed at a "news outlet", that it must be news.

Even more problematically, a thread and our discussion give it credibility as news. Enthusiastic involvement of longtime posters especially legitimizes it, regardless of what side they take.

Thus, rather than identifying and eliminating the psy-op, we embraced and amplified it.

The solution would be to have a forum policy against embracing psychological operations that damage Democrats, but I don't think the forum body is quite ready to go there yet, or even acknowledge that it happens, despite the plain logical evidence here to the contrary.

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
234. Hmmm. Trump is inserting himself into NYC mayoral politics, so there is definitely one person who benefits...
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:18 PM
Aug 2025

And I think that Cuomo, who seems to be on some kind of revenge tour, is hooking up with Trump, or so I read recently.

So if anyone is going to be called a traitor to the Dem Party, why hasn’t Cuomo’s name come up? Why are some Dems and alleged Dems once again aiming directly at our best and brightest rising stars?

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
237. Note that Booker is African American and Mamdani is African American and Muslim.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:25 PM
Aug 2025

Yet somehow Booker is the problem and not Cuomo, who lost the primary and insists on running anyway.

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
244. There's a lot of antisemitism in this thread, too.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 03:05 PM
Aug 2025

Attacking Booker seems to be the pretense for attacking Jewish people and AIPAC. In that sense this is part of a pattern.

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
253. Yes there is & they're hardly being bothered with "coding. " Looks like NYC mayoral race is a proxy war...
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 03:35 PM
Aug 2025

You and I both can remember the 20th century’s proxy wars — ugly, destructive, a lot of territory ravaged, and a lot of innocent bystanders maimed and killed.

It will become a helluva metaphor for Democratic politics in the 21st century if we’re not careful.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
64. Not supporting Democratic candidates in general elections only helps Trump
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:41 AM
Aug 2025

It's like refusing to vote in a general election - that might be "not supporting a Republican" too, but it still helps them, compared to what you'd expect of a Democratic representative.

So you're wrong. Booker needs criticising, to remind him which party he belongs to, what the choice of that party in its NY primary was, and what "party" means.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
160. He IS supporting our Candidates IN NJ this year
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:41 AM
Aug 2025
Booker, Kim, Murphy endorse Sherrill for governor following primary victory
https://newjerseyglobe.com/governor/booker-kim-murphy-endorse-sherrill-for-governor-following-primary-victory/



Ballotpedia has a short list of his endorsements. Only two appear to be out of State (Barnes and Alsbrooks) for potential colleagues in the Senate.

Mikie Sherrill's Platform - and it mirrors our Assembly Candidates this year:
https://www.mikiesherrill.com/issues/public-safety-and-justice#block-f38b84c1-9790-4cdc-97ab-3eb4633e935b


I'm beginning to think that far Leftists want NJ to live in the same utter hellscape that Florida, Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, etc. etc. live in. Why else would they try to draw a beloved Senator into NYC when we in New Jersey SHOULD matter more to OUR Senator than people in NYC.

I don't understand this media attack on Booker.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
163. I don't understand why "are you going to support him?" can't just be answered with "yes"
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:48 AM
Aug 2025

It's not as if Booker has a limited number of time he can say "yes", or a limited number of Democrats he can say he supports. He wasn't asked "what matters more to you".

Are you saying the thread starter is a "far leftist" because they've told DUers that Booker wouldn't say he supported a fellow Democrat in a general election?

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
175. I'm saying
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:18 AM
Aug 2025

The Media Source is. And the reality is -

Mamdani could NEVER win a state wide election in NJ.

That's not a thing.

Anything MYYYYYYY Senator does that could be used against Sherrill, Freiman or Drulis in November cannot be done.

Also - considering as he is being written about in this thread as aipac ruled Senator -

Does that hurt their guy Mamdani? I would think it does.

Me - I could give a shit less if he gets funding from aipac - as long as he votes in the Senate by the will of the Democratic Party members in NJ who vote for him.

So - is there pushback to people questioning his aipac ties?

Or just the person who will have to live in a magapub HELL SCAPE if Shittarelli gets into office?

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
197. Booker not getting reelected to the Senate only helps Trump.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:46 AM
Aug 2025

Booker knows damn well which party he belongs to. Stop bashing Booker. He is doing what is best for his voters and the Democratic Party. Namely, he is staying out of an NYC mayoral race where the Dem is handily winning, to make sure he does not alienate any of his statewide voters unnecessarily.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
203. Christ, it's easy to see why the Democratic Party is floundering
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:59 AM
Aug 2025

if senior politicians in are scared to support a popular Democrat for fear of alienating Republican voters.

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
281. Mamdani has a 30% approval rating according to your own YouGov link.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:31 PM
Aug 2025

That does not indicate Mamdani is "popular."

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
343. Which is my point. Mamdani does indeed have a good chance of winning his NYC race.
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 02:52 AM
Aug 2025

He's got a double digit lead against all of his opponents.

He doesn't need Booker's endorsement, nor did he ask for it. It makes no sense to bash Booker.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
346. Booker, who endorsed a Republican Independent, and"reached out" to Adams
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 03:03 AM
Aug 2025

can't answer "do you support him?" with "yes"?

Why are so many DUers so keen to see Democratic politicians ignore each other? Don't you want a party to act as a party?

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
348. He endorsed Bloomberg when they were both mayors working to pass gun safety laws together.
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 03:38 AM
Aug 2025

That was in 2009. Not sure what you mean by "reached out" to Adams, but Booker has not endorsed any mayor since he's been Senator.

Numerous folks in this thread have explained why it could hurt Booker in a NJ statewide race to endorse Mamdani. He is not ignoring Mamdani, he is just staying out of it. It's not worth the risks. NJ statewide is a lot more conservative than NYC. As you and I discussed at length yesterday, 56% of registered voters in NYC are Democrats, but only 40% of voters in NJ are Democrats. Booker has much less leeway in NJ. I think he is walking the tightrope well.

Yes, we should "act as a party," and stop needlessly bashing good Dems like Booker. We need him in the senate.

Nancy Pelosi famously said she didn't care if other Dems distanced themselves from her or not. "Just win baby," she said. I bet if you asked Mamdani, he would say the same thing about Booker: Just win baby. Mamdani doesn't need nor has he asked for Booker's endorsement.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
349. Numerous people in this thread have bullshitted about Booker chickening out of supporting a Democrat
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 03:52 AM
Aug 2025

And now we find he's been happy to endorse non-Democrats in the past. The only explanation was "there's money in every political race". Yeah, rich people don't want anyone endorsing Mamdani. Booker has decide to cave to them, rather than support a Democrat.

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
350. Numerous people in this thread have "bullshitted" as you put it, but it wasn't the Booker supporters.
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 04:03 AM
Aug 2025

betsuni

(28,693 posts)
40. 1hank you. Divisive myths of Establishment vs Progressive, the Age Wars, slandering Dems as corrupt,
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:15 AM
Aug 2025

Last edited Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:10 AM - Edit history (1)

baselessly accusing them of doing nothing, fake anger that Democrats didn't stop all the bad things, both sides. Republicans love it.

Oh, forgot the AIPAC Illuminati Special Magic Corrupting Campaign Donations conspiracy theory.

Nixie

(17,937 posts)
191. Exactly, it's a constant disinformation whirlybird.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:37 AM
Aug 2025

No broader understanding of political realities are needed.

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
112. It's exhausting, isn't it?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:06 AM
Aug 2025

This entire thread seems to be an excuse to use antisemitic tropes to attack and write off a solid progressive Democratic senator.

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
199. Yes, and it just plays into the hands of Republicans.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:47 AM
Aug 2025

Like the "uncommitted" movement did in 2024.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
156. He's beloved
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:31 AM
Aug 2025

We need him endorsing OUR candidates in a Trifecta year.

My fate is in no way, shape, or form tied to NYC.

We have GOT to pull moderates and indies to keep the magapub's greedy little russian loving mitts off of Trenton.

Cha

(316,680 posts)
7. Sen Cory Booker does a Good Job
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 10:16 PM
Aug 2025

in the Senate for New Jersey and America.

He shouldn't be forced to endorse someone in New York.

oasis

(53,340 posts)
10. So true Cha! I'm very impressed how Cory is
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 10:36 PM
Aug 2025

handling himself.

I’m happy to see you’re likeminded.

Celerity

(53,608 posts)
22. Your open approval of a major Democrat refusing to support the Dem mayoral nominee in a contentious race is telling.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 12:18 AM
Aug 2025


Millions of Booker's own NJ residents (and voters) are directly and profoundly linked and tied to NYC.

This is NOT a normal NYC general. Trump is now directly in contact (aided in that by the execrable Mark Penn) with the sore loser and serial sexual harasser Cuomo, trying (along with a tonne of scumbag RW billionaires) desperately to game out a defeat of our Democratic Party's nominee in the general.

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,372 posts)
25. The same people who haven't shut up for ten years about an actress not endorsing their beloved candidate are now ok...
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 12:27 AM
Aug 2025

… with a sitting Democratic Senator not endorsing the party’s nominee in a major race.

“forced”

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
29. Your open bashing of a Democratic Senator is telling. Mamdani has a double digit polling lead.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 12:51 AM
Aug 2025

As I said to you above, Mamdani is running for Mayor of NYC, not federal office. And Namdani Mamdani holds a double-digit lead over Cuomo. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5439256-nyc-mayoral-race-mamdani-leads/
Mamdani does not need New Jersey Senator Cory Booker's endorsement. All Booker's endorsement would do is potentially alienate some of Booker's New Jersey constituents, who he needs to get reelected so that Democrats can protentionally take back the Senate.

Please reserve your hate for Republicans, not Dems who are just trying to make their smartest steps to beat back the dictator in the White House. Your Booker bashing only helps Trump.

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
37. Yes, you are bashing Booker. And you are the one constructing "false framing."
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:11 AM
Aug 2025

As I stated above, you are implying Booker's a traitor and a hypocrite for not explicitly endorsing Mamdani for Mayor, like he did for Alsobrooks for Senate. I explained why the two situations just aren't comparable. And, you are also suggesting that the lack of Booker's endorsement will somehow hurt Mamdani. It won't. Mamdani is winning by double digits.

Celerity

(53,608 posts)
41. Disagreeing with Booker is not bashing Booker. If disagreeing with a Democrat is now bashing them, then there are
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:17 AM
Aug 2025

hundreds of thousands (millions?) of 'bashing Dems' posts on DU put up over the past 24 and a half years.

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
46. You're not just disagreeing, you're suggesting he's a hypocrite and traitor.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:36 AM
Aug 2025

You are implying Booker's a traitor and a hypocrite for not explicitly endorsing Mamdani for Mayor, like he did for Alsobrooks for Senate. I explained why the two situations just aren't comparable. And, you are also suggesting that the lack of Booker's endorsement will somehow hurt Mamdani. It won't. Mamdani is winning by double digits.

I disagree with some Dem's strategy and positions, but I don't lay into them for no reason. It serves no constructive purpose to bash Booker for staying out of the NYC race. The Journal cited in the OP is obviously happy Booker didn't endorse Mamdani. Let it go. You're only helping Trump at this point.

Celerity

(53,608 posts)
48. You falsely saying (3 times now) I am 'implying Booker's a traitor' is an outrageous direct smear and personal attack.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:46 AM
Aug 2025

It is absolutely rubbish, a naked attempt to falsely associate me with inflammatory words that I never said nor implied.

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
50. Yes, you absolutely implied it. You brought up Alsobrooks.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:50 AM
Aug 2025

Pointing out false framing is not a "personal attack." You brought up the "false framing" charge first, against me. Did you mean it as a personal attack?

Celerity

(53,608 posts)
58. You are the one who injected the whole 'traitor' wording, and tryied to false associate me with it by saying
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:16 AM
Aug 2025

I am "implying' that he is a 'traitor'.

You know damn well how loaded the word 'traitor' is and you repeatedly, openly, trying to falsely associate me and link me with that word, that construct YOU introduced, is beyond the pale.

Celerity

(53,608 posts)
65. You are all over the thread with repeated attacks on me. I am simply replying to your multiple replies to me that you
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:42 AM
Aug 2025

initiated.

None of my replies were 'duplicates'. I typed each one out separately in response to you having go after go at me first.

Celerity

(53,608 posts)
179. It was made about me and certainly not by my choice. I simply responded in my defence to multiple personal attacks and
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:21 AM
Aug 2025

false framings in multiple parts of the thread. I absolutely have a right to defend myself against such personally disparaging postings.

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
188. No, Celerity, you made it about you, and you were the one who started attacking.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:33 AM
Aug 2025

It is you who is all over this thread attacking anyone who dares support Booker. You entered this subthread with your attacking post #19, complete with a rolling eyes emoji.
Followed by your post #22, also with a rolling eyes emoji. What is "telling" about a DUer supporting Booker? What are you implying about Cha there?

Celerity

(53,608 posts)
211. And here you go again. Proving my point. You keep coming at me over and over.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 12:52 PM
Aug 2025
It is you who is all over this thread attacking anyone who dares support Booker.


All over the thread? I replied to 2 posters, neither of whom replied back (as is their right).

Then you jumped in and repeatedly had go after go at me, repeatedly using the absolutely loaded wording that I was implyin Booker was a 'traitor', which is not only false but a wilful use of an incidiary term designed to associate me with a construct that YOU invented.

These are your repeated posts falsely saying I was implying Booker was a 'traitor', all the snapshots have the links embedded. I don't even list some of the multiple other times you had a crack at me.

Post 36:



Post 37:



Post 46:



Post 50



Post 51 (which uses post 46 of yours):



and

And in post 28 you falsely implied I had 'hate' (another loaded word) towards Democrats:



AND in the very next post (post 29) you said the same thing (looks like you cut and pasted parts of post 28), again falsely implying I had 'hate' towards Dems:



Bottom line, you are the one who is all over the thread repeatedly smearing me and having go after go at me.

Nixie

(17,937 posts)
220. No, wrong again. It looks like Booker is being wrongfully smeared.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:53 PM
Aug 2025

That’s what’ is being highlighted.

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
280. Celerity, every post you cite is in response to your posts, and YOU started it with your post #19.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:27 PM
Aug 2025

ALL of the posts you cite come after your post #19, as the post numbers make clear; and they are in response to your flury of duplicative subsequent posts in 2 separate subthreads, hence the large number of replies.

It is you who first entered this subthread, not me. It is you who entered this thread with your post #19, attacking Cha for showing support for Senator Booker, with a rolling eyes emoji.

That was followed by your post #22, also with a rolling eyes emoji. What is "telling" about a DUer supporting Booker? What are you implying about Cha there? Why won't you answer that question? Sure sounds like a nasty personal attack on Cha to me. But you refuse to even address THAT personal attack, let alone admit what you were implying.

Celerity

(53,608 posts)
294. Again you misrepresent what I said. I was criticising the support of a specific action (Booker not endorsing Mamdani)
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:02 PM
Aug 2025

That was not a personal attack at all. It was a very specific critique of the poster's support of a specific action taken by Booker.

I was NOT at all criticising general support of Booker, as you and others have tried to disingenuously claim, including in your reply to me just now.

Post 19 was also not a personal attack. It was a specific question in re a term the poster used (okey-doke).

You seem to think that using a rolling eyes emoji auto-equates to a personal attack. That is just a silly notion.


Finally, these claims made by you just now are patent sophistry.

You said:

ALL of the posts you cite come after your post #19, as the post numbers make clear; and they are in response to your flury of duplicative subsequent posts in 2 separate subthreads, hence the large number of replies.


1. Of course the replies YOU made (the ones I posted in my last reply to you, post 211) happened after my only 2 posts (19 and 22) in the OP thread at that point. You came in and started having go after go at me after I had only posted those 2 replies (post 19 and post 22). My replies to you were all just reactions to your already-existing posts to me.

2. There was no 'flury of duplicative subsequent posts in 2 separate subthreads' that were initiated by me. After post 19 and post 22 (neither adressed to you) you came in with the flurry (the correct spelling) of replies to ME, you did them first. I only replied to you (and I typed each one out, I did not cut and paste any of them, they are each unique) in response to YOUR initial replies to me. There are many replies from me to you because YOU kept coming back and having go after go at me. Like you are now doing once again.

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
314. No, you attacked DUers for supporting Booker. Again, you refuse to answer my question and continue to deflect.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 08:55 PM
Aug 2025


I am referring to your statement, "Your open approval of a major Democrat refusing to support the Dem mayoral nominee in a contentious race is telling."

What does her "open approval" of Booker "tell" about Cha? Sure seems like you are suggesting she is a traitor, like you suggested Booker is a traitor.

Celerity

(53,608 posts)
321. You've been, on and off, having go after go at me for over TWENTY straight hours now in this thread, starting with post
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:49 PM
Aug 2025
28 https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220542038#post28

which was at 7:39 AM Thursday my time (CET, here in Sweden) (late Wednesday your time if you are in California)



to your last reply to me now at 3:55 AM Friday my time

post 314 https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220542038#post314



You have repeatedly, as I have fully documented, attacked me with a false construct, ie saying that I am implying that Booker is a traitor (your words, using the extremely loaded term 'traitor' and trying to associate me with that spun-up framing you chose) AND twice implying that I 'hate' Democrats.

Those replies to me were absolutely personal attacks, smears of me as a DU poster, utilising false aspersions (of your own invention) upon my integrity as a Democrat and as a DU member.

My comment to the other poster was not questioning overall support of Booker, it was a specific comment about a specific action, (Booker not endorsing Mamdani) and action that she approved of, and my reply was well within the ground-rules here on DU. They did not reply, and I had no further interaction with them, the same for my only other reply in the thread (before you started in with me).

You have been targeting me now, on and off, as stated, for over TWENTY straight hours in this one OP thread.

You deliberately chose the inflammatory words/concepts ('traitor' and also implying I 'hate' Dems) and falsely tried, over and over and over, to associate me to them.

It long ago went to a level of clear, repetitive harassment and attacking me via your own self-erected false-framings and it needs to stop.

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
330. Again, what did you mean by "telling" in your post #22?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:40 PM
Aug 2025

What was Cha's support of Booker "telling" about her?





betsuni

(28,693 posts)
351. The "open approval" is hilarious. We supporters of Democrats on a forum supporting Democrats
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 04:11 AM
Aug 2025

who won't bash Booker because we're told to are actually secretly cheering on Trump and right-wing billionaires. Oh no, the cat is out of the open bag and it is telling!

lapucelle

(20,943 posts)
366. Why did you frame algemeiner.com as a "NYC Jewish newspaper"?
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 10:39 AM
Aug 2025

The anchor text in the OP goes to a right wing website, not to a Yiddish language newspaper.

And the wiki article you link to does not say "NYC Jewish newspaper". Those are your words.









Celerity

(53,608 posts)
373. What are you talking about? The website the OP linked to is the online presence for The Alegemeiner Journal (aka The
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 12:05 PM
Aug 2025

Alegemeiner for short) and it is a centre right Jewish printed newspaper with a website as well. It is all the SAME thing, as I clearly showed in my post 38 ( https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220542038#post38 ) if you had but clicked on the link in my post 38 reply.

Algemeiner Journal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algemeiner_Journal

The Algemeiner Journal, known informally as The Algemeiner, is a newspaper based in New York City that covers American and international Jewish and Israel-related news. It is widely read by Hasidic Jews.

snip

The Algemeiner's advisory board was chaired by Nobel laureate, writer, and activist Elie Wiesel.Jacobson served as the paper's editor and publisher until his death in 2005, and Gershon's elder son Simon Jacobson became the publisher. He founded the Gershon Jacobson Jewish Continuity Foundation (GJCF), a Jewish media organization with the mission to serve as a voice for Jews and Israel. At this time, circulation was approximately 18,000.

In 2008, Jacobson reconceived Der Algemeiner Journal as an English-language publication, replacing the Yiddish "Der" in the title for "The". That year, Dovid Efune became the editor-in-chief of what was called The Algemeiner and Director of the GJCF. Efune left his position in November 2021 to join The New York Sun, but remained on the board.

In 2012, the GJCF launched the website Algemeiner.com.

snip

Content and circulation

The Algemeiner print edition is published every Friday, except during Passover and Sukkot. In 2023, its circulation is about 23,000. It is widely read by Hasidic Jews, for whom Yiddish is the daily language.

snip

External links

Official website ( https://www.algemeiner.com/ )

click it, it goes to:




Also see your own link to Media Bias Fact Check to show this to be the case as well.(you only posted part of it):












muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
67. Mamdani is popular among Democratic voters over the whole US
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:54 AM
Aug 2025
https://ygo-assets-websites-editorial-emea.yougov.net/documents/New_York_Politics_poll_results.pdf

Asking US adults, he has a rating of 55% favorable, 10% unfavorable among Democrats. That's better than, for instance, Kirsten Gillibrand (37/16). Don't try to excuse this with "he's worried about what his constituents would think".

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
124. Excuse what?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:40 AM
Aug 2025

Booker hasn't done anything wrong.

As you note, Mamdani is very popular in a year when everything is pointing to voters choosing young politicians with new ideas. Mamdani doesn't need the help of so-called "establishment" politicians.

Further, the outcome of the race for NYC mayor isn't especially relevant to the federal crisis we're facing right now.

I find it very interesting that Booker is being attacked for not wasting political capital on a race that is not especially important and is probably a done deal.

I see something very nefarious in this, part of a decade-long effort to divide Democrats and put Republicans in power.

Ask yourself who benefits from bad-mouthing a Democratic senator.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
133. He's failed to support a Democrat who has a general election this year
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:03 AM
Aug 2025

Yes, that is doing something wrong. He's in the Democratic Party.

Mamdani is running for mayor of the city where nearly half a million of Booker's constituents work. It's very relevant to Booker.

It is not a "waste of political capital" to support a popular fellow party candidate in a general election. It's common fucking sense.

You know very well what's divisive here: It's one Democratic politician refusing to endorse another Democratic politician in a race against non-Democrats. Booker is responsible for this division. I wouldn't call it "nefarious", just dumb, bad politics.

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
141. You may not fully understand U.S. politics.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:18 AM
Aug 2025

There's no need or reason for a U.S. senator to endorse a mayoral candidate.

Because Cuomo is in the mix, and because of some of Mamdani's comments about Israel, there is potential harm to Booker's next campaign if he endorses Mamdani. Thanks to the execrable Citizens United decision all U.S. politics is now heavily dependent on money.

We desperately need every Democratic senator to be reelected and to win more seats. Our democracy depends on it.

The mayor's race in NYC, while interesting, really has no relevance to federal politics.

I hope and expect Mamdani to win. If he does, I expect to see many more young, progressive people enter politics. That's a good thing.

But there's no reason for Booker to weigh in. In fact, I'm not sure why Mamdani's supporters would think he needs or even wants help from an establishment politician.

It looks nefarious to me. An excuse to divide Democrats.

Just_Vote_Dem

(3,528 posts)
147. Well, I am a U.S. citizen and I definitely understand U. S. politics
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:23 AM
Aug 2025

And I think his answer should have been "I support Democratic nominees for elected office"

I think any other answer than that could be misconstrued as divisive.

JMO, of course.

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
165. I'll take that as a no.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:50 AM
Aug 2025

I'm not the one playing gotcha.

This is a non-issue being promoted by right-wing channels in an obvious effort to divide Democrats and hurt both Mamdani and Booker.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
161. If it helps, then yes, I think Tlaib was dumb and hurt the Democrats
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:41 AM
Aug 2025

and thought so at the time.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
149. "Nefarious"? Yes, you've identified the nefarious bit here:
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:24 AM
Aug 2025

"all U.S. politics is now heavily dependent on money"

So Booker is chickening out of supporting a Democrat because people with money might not like it. Voters would be fine with it; the rich, not so much. Which is a shameful way for a Democratic senator to decide what he says in an interview.

I wish you'd be directing the "nefarious" accusation at the thread starter who you think is being divisive by pointing out Booker's stance, rather than at Democratic voters who have a candidate they like, and people who think that the candidate should be supported.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
155. No, I don't think Booker is being "babyish"
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:31 AM
Aug 2025

I think it's cowardly to put fundraising ahead of the party.

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
190. Booker, as Senator, runs statewide, not just among Dems.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:37 AM
Aug 2025

Mamdani has a 30% approval nationwide, according to your YouGov link. Only 40% of registered voters in NJ are Democrats. In NYC, 56% of registered voters identify as Democrats, 26% as Republicans, and 18% identify as neither. NJ is a very different ball game from NYC. Booker's voters are not the same composition as NYC voters.

I am not "excusing" anything. Nothing Booker did needs "excusing." He didn't do anything wrong. Stop bashing Booker.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
201. Which puts Mamdani among the most popular Democrats asked about
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:56 AM
Aug 2025

Jeffries: favorable 31%, unfavorable 30% - and among Independents, 22%/32%
Mamdani: 30%, 29%; 25%/26%
Lander: 13%, 13%; 10%/13%
Gillibrand: 23%, 24%; 16%/28%
James: 25%, 28%; 20%/26%
Ocasio-Cortez: 36%, 38%; 29%/40%
Hochul: 20%, 30%; 15%/30%
Nadler: 15%, 25%; 8%/24%
Schumer: 27%, 49%; 20%/51%

Mamdani does better among "Independent" voters even than Jeffries.

Why is is wrong to want Democrats to publicly support Democrats?

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
290. Of course it is not wrong to support Democrats. You should support Booker.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:45 PM
Aug 2025

Not making a formal endorsement does not equate to not supporting, let alone opposition.

Mamdani did not ask for Booker's endorsement and does not need it, so it makes no sense to be upset that Booker didn't issue an endorsement.

Booker did not say he didn't support Mamdani, he just said he was staying out of the NYC mayoral race, leaving it up to New Yorkers (who are 56% Democratic).

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
196. Those people don't vote here
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:46 AM
Aug 2025
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/nj-gop-sees-big-increase-111736143.html
New Jerseyans are not satisfied with the state’s handling of affordability, the cost of living, and taxes — all issues taking center stage in the current gubernatorial race.

Hugin argued that registration changes since 2021 are the key metric as voters consider whether to stick with Murphy’s party or flip control of the governor’s seat.

“Now the Democratic brand is probably more negative than the Republican brand,” Hugin said.

Public polls have Democratic Rep. Mikie Sherrill leading her Republican challenger, Jack Ciattarelli, in the governor’s race. In 2021, Ciattarelli unsuccessfully challenged Murphy, who is barred from seeking a third term in November.


^This is what is at stake.^

By the way - the lead is only at 6%.


yardwork

(68,945 posts)
241. "Your open approval..."
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:48 PM
Aug 2025

Really. How dare a DUer give "open approval" to a solid progressive Democratic senator?

Sounds ominous.

You might want to rethink how that post sounds.

Celerity

(53,608 posts)
248. You wilfully left off a lot of what I said, you took a small part and are now trying to spin it as if I was taking issue
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 03:14 PM
Aug 2025

simply with 'approval' of Booker overall. You purposely snipped the quote in order to leave out the full context.

I said:

'Your open approval of a major Democrat refusing to support the Dem mayoral nominee in a contentious race is telling.'

Millions of Booker's own NJ residents (and voters) are directly and profoundly linked and tied to NYC.

This is NOT a normal NYC general. Trump is now directly in contact (aided in that by the execrable Mark Penn) with the sore loser and serial sexual harasser Cuomo, trying (along with a tonne of scumbag RW billionaires) desperately to game out a defeat of our Democratic Party's nominee in the general.


Hekate

(100,132 posts)
254. As has been pointed out, it was not a "refusal" it was a rather graceful dodge. If he had ...
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 03:45 PM
Aug 2025

…murmured “yes” the frame from this newspaper would have been something like “Booker trumpets endorsement of Mamdani! Leaps into the NYC fray!”

Apparently there is only 1 (one) US Senator who goes around endorsing state candidates. Why not ask that Senator why he hasn’t gone all-in for one of the mayoral candidates in the city of his birth?



Lulu KC

(8,477 posts)
16. Exactly
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 11:35 PM
Aug 2025

He doesn't vote there, he isn't endorsing anyone there is how I read it. The headline is misleading.

Cha

(316,680 posts)
21. Yes.. who writes that "headline"? It's completely
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 12:12 AM
Aug 2025

Gaslighting to Divide Dems.

"Dems in Dissaray".. blah blah blah

Aloha, Lulu!

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
44. Kinda makes my point about why it was smart for Booker to stay out of the NYC race.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:27 AM
Aug 2025

Many of the folks who read that journal oppose Mamdani and would not have taken kindly to Booker endorsing him. The author styled the non-endorsement as a "refusal." Not quite the same thing. But I can see why someone who dislikes Mamdani would want to frame it that way.

Again, smart of Booker to stay the fuck out of it and avoid needlessly turning off some of his voters. Mamdani is winning. Let it go.

lapucelle

(20,943 posts)
214. Algemeiner is a right wing source.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:21 PM
Aug 2025

This is the actual link, as opposed to the anchor text in the OP that leads to the right wing source.

https://www.algemeiner.com/2025/08/04/us-sen-cory-booker-refuses-endorse-zohran-mamdani-nyc-mayor/



-------------------------------

What is a right wing source that's badmouthing a Democrat doing here?



mcar

(45,653 posts)
215. Wow, thanks for discovering this!
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:43 PM
Aug 2025

I wonder what all the people bashing Booker on this thread think about their support of a right-wing rag?

lapucelle

(20,943 posts)
225. I always post the link rather than anchor text.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:56 PM
Aug 2025

It's more transparent. There's a lot of link washing on *social media* these days.



yardwork

(68,945 posts)
217. You mean the hit and run OP who hasn't bothered to post in their thread?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:48 PM
Aug 2025

The one who has posted threads in support of Cuomo in the past?

A bunch of us have noticed.

lapucelle

(20,943 posts)
252. My response was to the person who posted the giant picture of the Algemeiner headline and story.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 03:30 PM
Aug 2025

While Algemeiner was described as a "NYC Jewish newspaper", the weekly print edition is more accurately characterized as a Yiddish language weekly tabloid whose target audience is Brooklyn's Hasidic community.

Algemeiner launched an e-paper English version of its weekly Yiddish tabloid in 2010, and the English language conservative website grew out of that.

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
265. Brooklyn's Hasidic community is extremely conservative.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 05:45 PM
Aug 2025

They support Netanyahu. They support Trump. They don't reflect the opinions of most Jewish Americans.

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
297. Politically, afaict American Hasids are more closely aligned w American Evangelicals than w Democrats
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:14 PM
Aug 2025

Which is a fairly important point if a poster is going to use Algemeiner and imagine it represents a broader American Jewish opinion toward Democratic candidates.

Also, the Hasidic community is tiny.

At any rate, Senator Booker (NJ-D) did not do what The Alegmeiner accused him of. It was a gotcha question and it’s pretty clear to me that had he answered it otherwise, they still would have framed it negatively.

lapucelle

(20,943 posts)
367. Link washing the source and then a mischaracterization of it as a "NYC Jewish newspaper"...
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 10:43 AM
Aug 2025

... all in the service of badmouthing a popular Democratic senator.

electric_blue68

(25,781 posts)
309. From Pew Research Center Re Orthodox Jews
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:58 PM
Aug 2025
From Pew Research Center:
( with my underline)
"Orthodox Jews, however, stand out as a small subgroup (roughly one-in-ten Jewish adults) whose political profile is virtually the reverse of Jews as a whole: 60% of Orthodox Jews describe their political views as conservative, 75% identify as Republicans or lean toward the GOP, and 81% approved of Trump’s job performance at the time of the survey."

lapucelle

(20,943 posts)
313. Indeed it is. And no, it does not reflect the opinions of most Jewish Americans or Jewish New Yorkers.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 08:39 PM
Aug 2025

That's why i was surprised to see the Algemeiner described the way it was.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
74. You are absolutely correct! He should be able to endorse or not-endorse whomever he wants or doesn't want to.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 05:35 AM
Aug 2025

I stand by his decision and support him in whatever he decides to not-do, or do.

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,739 posts)
249. Senator Booker is going a tremendous job
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 03:21 PM
Aug 2025

I am very glad that Senator Booker is in the Senate

H2O Man

(78,603 posts)
8. That's terrible.
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 10:17 PM
Aug 2025

A half-step in the direction of a quiet endorsement of the re-tread governor, who lost the primary and is running on another ticket. The Democratic Party should remain democratic, rather than have "leaders" picked by one economic-social sub-group willing to betray a Democratic primary winner.

W_HAMILTON

(10,047 posts)
9. Has Booker made any endorsement for NYC mayor since he became a senator?
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 10:35 PM
Aug 2025

I see that he made an endorsement back in the 2000s when he was also a mayor, but I don't see that he has made any endorsements since becoming a senator -- anyone able to cite a reputable source showing otherwise?

radical noodle

(10,480 posts)
15. I'm also unable to find an instance
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 11:27 PM
Aug 2025

of Cory Booker endorsing a mayoral candidate for New York City since he's been a senator. I think some in the media may be trying to stir the pot because why not make this whole thing into a big split in the Democratic Party so they can ignore all the crap trump is doing.

Jack Valentino

(4,330 posts)
20. I tend to agree that it isn't his business, one way or the other,
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 12:09 AM
Aug 2025

to make endorsements or with-hold them for local offices in some other state...

Fiendish Thingy

(21,966 posts)
14. Your old road is rapidly aging
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 10:59 PM
Aug 2025

Get out of the new one if you can’t lend a hand…

For the times, they are a changing.

W_HAMILTON

(10,047 posts)
339. If Mamdani needs every Democrat in the United States to endorse him to win MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY...
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 12:44 AM
Aug 2025

...I'm not sure the times are a changing as much you wish they were.

Elected Democrats -- especially those outside of New York -- have MUCH more pressing matters to tend to than New York City's mayoral race.

Fiendish Thingy

(21,966 posts)
363. There is a significant difference between a spontaneous, unsolicited formal endorsement
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 08:51 AM
Aug 2025

And dodging a direct question.

Mamdani doesn’t need to be endorsed by every elected Democrat in the country, but when any elected Democrat is asked about the candidacy of any Democratic nominee for any office, they should express support for that nominee to win that race, rather than using weasel words to evade answering the question directly.

Example of a better answer:

“I’m not making any formal endorsements for races outside of New Jersey, but I wish Mr. Mamdani, and all our Democratic nominees for elected office across the country, all the best in winning their races”.

See the difference between the statement above and Booker’s actual statement?

The statement above, while not a formal endorsement, slams the door shut on any possibility of an endorsement of another candidate who isn’t a Democrat, and shows solidsrity with Mamdani and other Dem candidates.

It’s the least Booker, or any other Dem, can and should do.

vanessa_ca

(613 posts)
18. Shameful because it really isn't hard
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 11:38 PM
Aug 2025

“I don’t agree with Mr. Mamdani on every position he’s taken but as the winner of the democratic primary, of course I support him in the general election.”

That would show you respect the democratic will of the voters. Sheesh.

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
54. Yes, it kinda is hard. Booker is respecting the will of his voters.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:05 AM
Aug 2025

Many of whom oppose Mamdani, like the folks who read the Journal cited in the OP.

I could not find any record of Booker ever endorsing an NYC mayoral candidate. He is smart to continue to stay out of NYC politics.

Besides, Mamdani does not need Booker's endorsement. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5439256-nyc-mayoral-race-mamdani-leads/

 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
122. Booker played it fine -- his comment is not the news -- the lede is buried
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:33 AM
Aug 2025

Publishing the article casts Booker's neutral comment as a "non-endorsement". "Non-endorsement" is a negative framing of a neutral position, especially when there is literally no historical precedent of NJ Senators endorsing NYC mayoral candidates.

What is actually the news here is the outlets pushing this:

https://www.algemeiner.com/2025/08/04/us-sen-cory-booker-refuses-endorse-zohran-mamdani-nyc-mayor/

https://www.foxnews.com/media/sen-cory-booker-refuses-endorse-zohran-mamdani

These are big power broker outlets that clearly do not like Mamdani and want to create a perception of non-support.

You are witnessing very high-level psychological ops here, masquerading as "news".

vanessa_ca

(613 posts)
126. It's negative framing, but it's the truth and there's a lot of disappointment about this the party needs to address
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:43 AM
Aug 2025

Democratic Party bigs are painfully aware that voters want to see if they stand by Vote Blue No Matter Who when it comes to progressive candidates or if that only applies to centrist candidates with big money and AIPAC's stamps of approval. It's more than a perception of non support. So far, our party is failing miserably and I hope they come out forcefully, in support of Mamdani, before they sever what ties they have left with the leftist youth vote.

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
128. Were you this upset with Rashida Tlaib urging her constituents not to support Harris?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:48 AM
Aug 2025

If there's "a lot of disappointment" that Mamdani is likely going to be the next mayor of NYC, beating out Andrew Cuomo, it sounds like sore winning to me.

Take your win. Stop whining.

And the constant refrain about AIPAC is boring.

Cha

(316,680 posts)
23. There is No Shame on Sen Booker.. it is
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 12:20 AM
Aug 2025

too bad that anyone is falling for the Clickbait Divisiveness of that headline. "Dems in Dissaray" !


SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
53. The irony is that the Journal cited in the OP obviously thinks it's a good thing Booker didn't endorse.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:01 AM
Aug 2025

Cha

(316,680 posts)
57. That is Ironic... I went to the link
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:12 AM
Aug 2025

but missed that the Journal thought it was a good idea...

Why did they think that? TY!

sheshe2

(95,817 posts)
332. I don't understand what the big hoopla is about.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:19 PM
Aug 2025

Mamdani won his primary for Mayor of NYC. It is a local election, period. My guess is he will win the seat.
We have more serious matters at hand than worry about who endorses who.

Take a deep breath and focus, people.

Cha

(316,680 posts)
334. Right, she... No Reason At All for
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 12:04 AM
Aug 2025

Dems to bring out the long Knives on Sen Cory Booker.



betsuni

(28,693 posts)
341. It's like Booker stood them up at the altar.
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 01:39 AM
Aug 2025

A mayor can't start a revolution in the U.S., no harbinger that the Democratic Party will be destroyed and replaced, no need to get mad and demand everybody bend the knee, have a hive mind, toe the line and so on!

betsuni

(28,693 posts)
387. It's stubbornly nasty when there's an almost religious fervor that only they are right, moral, smarter,
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 10:20 PM
Aug 2025

know what's really going on (all dysfunction in politics caused by money, everyone's bribed by oligarchs and billionaires except the pure hearted passionate fighting heroes -- the only ones who can save us with strongly worded rallies -- but the corrupt Democratic Party despise, are terrified by anything and anyone progressive and plot and rig against them, why establishment centrist status quo AIPAC money money money evil caricature Democrats (today it's Booker) must never be given the benefit of the doubt (untrustworthy, effective especially against Democratic women) -- come to think of it, maybe that's why Democrats are mocked for saying something Christian like Jeffries' tweet -- they see Democrats as deceiving Satans),

So if anyone disagrees with this Good or Evil simplistic Democrat-bashing, one is not wrong, one is immoral, evil, stupid, and treated accordingly. There's always a personal attack. You are the enemy.

 

Hornedfrog2000

(866 posts)
27. Honestly, the way dems have rolled over
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 12:32 AM
Aug 2025

Im not sure anyone will support us going forward. We are completely rudderless, and being blugeoned to death by a foreign country and sociopaths. The answer is you support the dem nominee, and if there was no dem nominee youd support a fucking rock over a republican.

Cha

(316,680 posts)
59. What do you mean.? Dems are NOT "rolling Over... "
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:17 AM
Aug 2025

They're Out there Fighting For Us Everyday!

But it Sure Doesn't help our Democracy when this is posted..

".. the way dems have rolled over.."


The Title of the OP is Divisive Bull Feathers..

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
320. Yes indeed. Also....
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:47 PM
Aug 2025

As I pointed out at the bottom of the thread, the OP is nowhere to be found. Lost in the woods with Hansel and Gretel, maybe?

IcyPeas

(24,826 posts)
35. Booker was the only Dem to vote in favor of Charles Kushner (felon) to be Ambassador to France
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:00 AM
Aug 2025

He has ties with Ivanka and Jared. Charles Kushner (felon) donated to his campaigns in the past. Booker was the only Democrat to vote alongside Republicans in favor of President Donald Trump's pick for the role.

I dunno......

Ping Tung

(4,134 posts)
45. How very...... end- justifies-the-means and CYA of him. Even if it's not ethical or progressive of him.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:31 AM
Aug 2025

SunSeeker

(57,496 posts)
47. Mamdani is winning by double digits. Booker is just making sure he wins reelection.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:45 AM
Aug 2025

Mamdani doesn't need Booker's endorsement. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5439256-nyc-mayoral-race-mamdani-leads/

Booker can't afford to alienate some of his voters, like the voters who read that Journal cited in the OP and oppose Mamdani.

There is nothing "unethical" or not "progressive" about what Booker is doing. We need Booker in the Senate.

 

Justice Brandeis

(405 posts)
56. All throughout 2024 Zohran demanded that Kamala Harris "earn" his support
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:12 AM
Aug 2025

Booker is just applying that same standard to him now.

lostincalifornia

(4,897 posts)
70. Is this any different than Rashida Tlaib refusing to endorse VP Harris? Are the same folks who are upset about
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 03:47 AM
Aug 2025

Booker not endorsing Mamdani, were they also upset when Rashida Tlaib refused to endorse VP Harris?

DFW

(59,723 posts)
63. I had never heard of the source of the article cited in the OP
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:41 AM
Aug 2025

"the algemeiner" is a misspelling, whether deliberate or otherwise, of a German word meaning "general" with a small "g," as in "in general." The German word is spelled with a double "L," i.e. "Allgemeiner."

One paragraph in the OP's article reads: Mamdani has also repeatedly refused to recognize Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state, falsely suggesting the country does not offer “equal rights” for all its citizens, and promised to arrest Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu if he visits New York.

As a Senator from a state with a large Jewish constituency and a substantial Muslim constituency, I can understand why Booker would be reluctant to pin himself down in a race where the front-runner has adopted such a position. Plus, the article says Booker "declined" to endorse Mamdani, not "refused" to endorse him. "Decline" suggests an abstention, where "refuse" suggests an outright no. I find it significant that whoever wrote the article used "decline," where whoever wrote the headline (and those who choose to take it as the main thrust) chose the word "refuse," which the author of the article does not start out with. The article also cites Booker as saying, "I’m sorry, the left-right lens is not the right lens to look at this right now......" I take this to mean he is saying he is not interested in getting involved in a heated dispute in another state right now where he can only lose. I do not take it to mean he refused categorically to endorse Mamdani ever. In politics, those in office often choose their fights carefully. Considering the demographic make-up of New Jersey, I think Booker has studied his options, and chosen his current position based thereupon.

DFW

(59,723 posts)
87. I just saw that, thanks. It does put a few things in perspective
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:27 AM
Aug 2025

First off, there is no reason I would have heard of a publication put out by, and serving a community with whom I have no connection. Secondly, as “refuses” would better fit their narrative, they chose to emphasize that, even if it does not reflect what Booker is attempting to say. The “one L” might be a transliteration from Yiddish, though I don’t read the Hebrew alphabet, and wouldn’t know.

Celerity

(53,608 posts)
72. The moderate and conservative Dems will never vote for her over Jeffries. They (with Pelosi aiding them) blocked AOC
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 04:43 AM
Aug 2025

in favour of a dying (and now dead, unfortunately) septuagenarian in Connolly for ranking member on Oversight. Almost zero chance they will support her for Speaker anytime soon, if ever. They probably will not even vote for her as Chair of a major House Committee.

Her main best hope is to run for US Senate in either 2028 or 2030. She cannot win a Dem POTUS primary I fear (and is even less likely to win a POTUS general, at least not for ages) and any winning Dem POTUS nominee will be under massive pressure to NOT pick her as their running mate.

IF she does run for US Senate in 2028 or 2030, it is going to be a shitshow both here on DU and in the NY Dem primary. There will perhaps be hundreds of millions spent against her by all the anti-progressive Dem groups, plus AIPAC and all the RW billionaire-backed groups. It will likely make the 2025 NYC general election with Mamdani look like a stroll in the park, as it is the best (and likely last if she wins a US Senate seat) chance to run AOC out of all elective offices at a federal level.

lostincalifornia

(4,897 posts)
69. I see no difference in Rashida Tlaib refusing to endorse VP Harris, and this.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 03:44 AM
Aug 2025

Were those who are upset about the lack of endorsement from Booker also upset about Tlaib's refusal to endorse VP Harris?





Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
76. Well... one BIG difference is that Booker isn't encouraging people to cast a protest-vote or to abstain from voting.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 05:40 AM
Aug 2025

So there's that.

The answer to your specific question, however, is: "NO! They were not."

I find that to be... interesting.



lostincalifornia

(4,897 posts)
118. Yes, and thank-you. One additional point is that Booker is a Senator from New Jersey, NOT New York.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:14 AM
Aug 2025

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
130. I know, right? I like Senator Booker... and apparently so do his constituents.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:56 AM
Aug 2025

He's a loyal Democrat who's not afraid to call himself a Democrat without any disclaimers or qualifiers or extra adjectives. That's always a positive thing. We need more party loyalty and it's obviously something that's very important to him.

PunkinPi

(5,243 posts)
78. The only difference is one is a mayoral race being nationalized and the other was an actual national...
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 05:44 AM
Aug 2025

race of greater consequence. Mamdani said he voted for Harris, he never endorsed her, and was also supportive of the "uncommitted/leave it blank" campaigns (same as Tlaib), which likely in part suppressed the vote for Harris.

And Senator Booker and MVP Harris have been close for a long time, so it would not be a surprise for him not to wade into NYC's mayoral race due to that fact, along with concerns about Mamdani from his own constituents.

And to answer your question, probably not.

lostincalifornia

(4,897 posts)
119. All excellent points, and as you point out indirectly, Booker is a Senator from New Jersey, NOT NY.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:16 AM
Aug 2025

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
79. What a surprise. As it pertains to this non-issue... who specifically do you "blame" and for what?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 05:45 AM
Aug 2025

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
85. I support Senator Booker. He's free to remain noncommittal. At least he's not urging people to vote "Uncommitted" or *
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:51 AM
Aug 2025

* to vote third party or some other form of treachery and betrayal. Booker is an honorable and LOYAL Democrat. We need more DEMOCRATS like that who are LOYAL to the party.

But, I'm still curious who in "democratic leadership" do you blame, and for what?

Emile

(40,528 posts)
93. Seriously, it's expected that democratic leaders
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:46 AM
Aug 2025

support the democratic nominees. Do you support the democratic nominee?

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
94. Well, if you don't want to answer my question, that's fine. I don't have time for games.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 08:08 AM
Aug 2025

Good bye.

Emile

(40,528 posts)
95. Listen, I already answered your question. You
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 08:11 AM
Aug 2025

on the other hand are afraid to answer my question.

I fully support the democratic nominee for mayor, do you?

mcar

(45,653 posts)
221. For what?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:55 PM
Aug 2025

As has been noted several times in this thread, Sen. Booker has never endorsed a NYC mayoral candidate. Thus, this is not an issue.

People here are using this non-issue as an excuse to bash Democrats. We really never learn, do we?

no_hypocrisy

(54,233 posts)
77. Perspective
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 05:42 AM
Aug 2025

1. Booker isn’t endorsing other candidates (Cuomo, Adams).

2. Booker also hasn’t condemned Mamdani’s candidacy.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
80. With all this faux-outrage, one might falsely assume he'd told voters to vote for "UNCOMMITTED" or to vote *
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:05 AM
Aug 2025

* for a third party, or to stay home and "send a message" (or some other treachery). Yet when those things actually happen, the loudest complainers when it comes to Booker's decision, had nothing to say in opposition or criticism when it affected VP Harris. That's weird. And very ... revealing.

gab13by13

(31,156 posts)
81. Adams and Cuomo both met with Krasnov
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:28 AM
Aug 2025

or spoke with Krasnov.

There are Rabbis who are asking the US not to send arms to Israel.

Ursus Rex

(473 posts)
83. Why in the world would a Senator from New Hersey endorse a mayoral candidate in another state?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:46 AM
Aug 2025

I mean, this isn’t a surprise to me, and I understand that people are trying get something going for Booker, but he is who and what he is, which is not the leftish firebrand a lot of people seem to want. I hope that he’s not the nominee for POTUS (like, ever), and it’s interesting that he’s so vividly showing his bona fides like this so early.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
231. Why does that matter?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:03 PM
Aug 2025

He was asked "do you support him?" (as a follow up to "I’m wondering if part of the issue with your party, do you think, is not embracing enough of the energy on the left flank of your party?" ), and he could have just said "I support all Democratic candidates in general elections", or "yes". Maybe no interviewer has asked him before if he supports a Democratic candidate - because, in a sane world, the answer would be "of course". As we've seen, one of Booker's supporters here says it's because there's money involved in every election, so Booker has to keep quiet in fear of offending donors. Not that he'd be able to admit that in public, of course.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
262. You're welcome - as long as you answer my question
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 05:40 PM
Aug 2025

Why does it matter - to you, or to anyone?

(no need to wave - I can see you)

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
347. What a waste-of-space answer. And now we know he did endorse for NYC mayor before.
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 03:09 AM
Aug 2025

Bloomberg in 2009 - see further down the thread.

So, answer my question - why would it matter if he hadn't endorsed before? The question was asked of him this time.

Passive-aggressive use of the "wave" smiley is a bane on DU.

Cha

(316,680 posts)
256. TY for pointing that out, mcar... Good on Sen Booker
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 04:26 PM
Aug 2025

It's too bad it's being used to Bash our Democratic Senator from New Jersey.



mcar

(45,653 posts)
261. Sen. Booker has been a stalwart fighter
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 05:35 PM
Aug 2025

for our country and Democratic principles. So let's trash him because of one thing we don't like - as reported by a RW media outlet.

mcar

(45,653 posts)
303. Booker has been amazing, but some RW pub said something
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:23 PM
Aug 2025

So here's the pile on.

I fear nothing is ever good enough for some.

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
316. I expect the next time someone starts a thread about how all the govs are unacceptable to run for POTUS...
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:38 PM
Aug 2025

…that right after my gov is mentioned yet again for some imagined perfidy, Booker’s name will come up and the entire pile-on will happen again. With the same people. Maybe we should save time by sending out invitations to the brawl.

Mike Nelson

(10,910 posts)
84. Horrible article...
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:49 AM
Aug 2025

... "REFUSES" becomes "declined" becomes something I would have expected Booker to say... The writer lost me with the FOX et al phrase "anti-Israel." Because I protest killing off Palestinians, I'm labeled "anti-Israel." Of course, the reminded readers Mamdani is a socialist. They've successfully redefined socialism as Communalism. They're loving a story that could make these two look bad.

Torchlight

(6,285 posts)
89. "You guys figure out your elections. I'm going to be focused on mine"
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:31 AM
Aug 2025

Sounds both rational and objective. I can't find the room to pretend either concern or optics on this one.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
91. Well, you see... there's the thing... you're logical and rational.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:40 AM
Aug 2025

That's one of your best traits and I like that about you.

Scrivener7

(58,247 posts)
92. And yet Cory Booker enthusiastically voted yes to make ex-con Kushner ambassador to France.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:45 AM
Aug 2025

Imagine that.

What a disappointment that man is being.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
96. Enthusiastically? Was he dancing? Cheering? Waving flags and banners? Wearing a party hat? Holding balloons?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 08:18 AM
Aug 2025

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
129. 😂😜🤣 Oh good grief! That's quite a leap...
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:52 AM
Aug 2025

... right up there with the use of the word "enthusiastically"

misanthrope

(9,362 posts)
97. OK, and?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 08:22 AM
Aug 2025

Mobile, Alabama has mayoral elections this year; Booker hasn’t offered an endorsement.

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
99. Misleading headline. Read Booker's actual quote.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 08:26 AM
Aug 2025

He says he never endorses for NYC mayor.

Scrivener7

(58,247 posts)
105. OK, but right now, don't you think it's important that every Democratic candidate gets full-throated support from
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 08:48 AM
Aug 2025

every member of the party? Especially if his primary showing was so strong and the views of the Democratic electorate in question (one which has a lot of ideological overlap with Cory's own electorate) have been made clear?

Enough with Democrats being coy. Now is not the time.

Here's how it should go: Reporter- "Do you support the Democratic candidate?" EVERY DAMN DEMOCRAT- "Yes."

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
107. I think it's a mistake for Cuomo to run.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 08:58 AM
Aug 2025

I think it's a mistake for the DNC to allow Cuomo to run.

Given the politics, though, I'm definitely not going to blame Booker. He's a solid Democrat. This circular firing squad based on purity policing is the biggest mistake of all.

Booker is a senator from New Jersey. Leave him alone and stop trying to play purity gotcha.

Scrivener7

(58,247 posts)
111. Nope. The DNC has nothing to do with Cuomo running as I.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:06 AM
Aug 2025

And when we see our own being coy about Democratic support, now of all times, we need to say we don't support that, if indeed we don't. And I don't.

This is a lot more basic than "purity.:

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
115. How do you know what the DNC is doing?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:11 AM
Aug 2025

Go ahead and write off Corey Booker, a solid progressive Democratic senator that we desperately need right now, because you think he should have used different wording in saying he's staying out of NYC politics.

Mamdani is so far ahead, even if Cuomo or Adams drop out and give all their votes to Sliwa, he'll still win.

This is a non-issue. It's absurd to be attacking Booker for it.

And I see the new catchword is coy. Geez.

Scrivener7

(58,247 posts)
139. Do show where I ever said I was writing him off.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:17 AM
Aug 2025

Or where I said anyone else should. What I said was that he is being a disappointment.

Speaking of demanding "purity" that's what you're doing. I found his response to be disappointing. I said so. That's allowed.

And by the way, the replies I made to you were perfectly civil. I guess when your standards of purity are breached, we can't expect the same back.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
164. I haven't been able to find that yet.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:50 AM
Aug 2025

Can you point to it as a quote, or a timestamp in a recording, please?

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
166. It's right in the OP.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:51 AM
Aug 2025
When asked last week by CNN reporter Manu Raju whether he would support Mamdani, a far-left democratic socialist, Booker said, “I have learned a long time ago, to let New York politics be New York politics. We have enough challenges in New Jersey.”

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
174. That says something quite different.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:12 AM
Aug 2025

After all, you claimed in reply #100 that it "basically" says "I will support my Party's nominee".

"Let New York politics be New York politics" is neither "I will support my Party's nominee", nor "I never endorse for NYC mayor".

Quiet Em

(2,531 posts)
104. This article is a deliberate attempt to stir up controversy where there is none
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 08:38 AM
Aug 2025

NYC is not a proxy battle for the future of the Democratic Party. Booker, a Senator from NJ, should not be expected to make an endorsement in a NYC Mayor race.

I like Zohran Mamdani. I want him to win. Attempts to create divisions in the Party where there should not be any will only harm his chances in the General Election.

lostincalifornia

(4,897 posts)
120. Perhaps, but it sure seems that a good number in this thread are not happy that a New Jersey Senator isn't
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:20 AM
Aug 2025

endorsing someone in a NY Mayoral race.

Quiet Em

(2,531 posts)
125. There is no benefit to this division
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:43 AM
Aug 2025

The con artist and the Republican MAGA party are going to go after Mamdani hard. The out of touch wealthy donors are going to go after Mamdani hard. NYC is unique and it's politics are unique. There is zero benefit in attempting to make Mamdani a litmus test and creating divisions within the party. If that happens, Cuomo will probably benefit from it and I don't want that. But that is exactly what those who are fighting so hard against Mamdani want.

Kid Berwyn

(22,858 posts)
113. If he does, he'll be dead to Wall Street.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:07 AM
Aug 2025

It’s about money and power and who gets what.

Socialists, shudder, want to share what’s not theirs.

Like Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes put it in 1927: “Taxes are what we pay for a civilized society.”

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
176. Why would that be a point of contention?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:19 AM
Aug 2025

Being dead to Wall Street?

3 of my neighbors and constituents work on Wall Street. My nephew works for Goldman Sachs. All four are Democratics who hate Trump.

What's the issue here?

Kid Berwyn

(22,858 posts)
187. Happy for them. Not much has fallen off the table for me and mine.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:32 AM
Aug 2025


And while Wall Street has been doing great for 50 years of Trickle Down, it's been a disaster for Democracy.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
193. What does that have to do
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:39 AM
Aug 2025

With them?

My nephew is a 31 year old Black Man who is very often the only Black person in the room.

He's being held in a holding pattern because the magapubs made it illegal for Black people to start-up venture capitalists that serve the Black Americans who NEVER get the VC money. Check out the Fearless Fund and how they put their boots on the necks of Black women.

My grandfather and his father and his grandfather thrived in Talladega Alabama and gave their financial assistance ONLY to Black People in Jim Crow. But now -

even taking care of one's own is illegal.

So if you want to go off topic about trickle down - lets take it over to the AFAm Group. The class war is not my issue.

Rising tides NEVER lifted Black Americans' boats and they never will.

There was this thing called the New Raw Deal you see . . .

Kid Berwyn

(22,858 posts)
207. You seem to be inventing offense where none is meant.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 12:19 PM
Aug 2025

My reply has nothing to do with you or your family. My reply has to do with the national economic policy that serves to make the rich richer and the poor, including what's left of the middle class, poorer.

Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746

Sorry never meant to make you think I was blaming you or your family for that.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
212. Thank you for understanding that
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:08 PM
Aug 2025

I think Black folks have always been left out of the economic equation.

I believe that class war is white on white American crime - with blame being laid on all non-white people by the upper echelons of white Americans.

It's a god damn shame.

LBJ was right. So here we are.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
136. Good - Sherrill
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:12 AM
Aug 2025

And our Democratic Party Assembly and Senate Candidates need his endorsement more than Mamdani does.

This is a Tri-Fecta year in NJ.

NYC is going to elect Mamdani.

We cannot risk a Shitarelli Admin in NJ. Anything that pulls moderates to votes for our Democratic Candidates needs to be done.

That includes Booker putting his nose in where it doesn't belong.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
178. I think so
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:20 AM
Aug 2025

Or people who want NJ to lose everything and live like people do in Mississippi. Those folks have literal SEWAGE coming up in their yards.

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
181. We saw it in 2015 and it was proven to be Russian trolls.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:22 AM
Aug 2025

We saw it in 2024 and it looked like Russian trolls to me then. And here it is now.

democratsruletheday

(1,812 posts)
138. Who CARES?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:16 AM
Aug 2025

Virtually NO one in the USA that lives outside of NYC gives a shit about this.....asking politely to stop clogging up this board with something as inconsequential as the mayor of NYC....doesn't matter.

BeyondGeography

(40,803 posts)
159. The prospect of a progressive Muslim mayor in NYC is inconsequential?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:39 AM
Aug 2025

Good one.

You’ll see how inconsequential it is when Mamdani wins.

This isn’t about the real-life consequences of an NYC mayoral race for people living outside NYC. It’s about how Trump and MAGA world will demonize Mamdani to manipulate people all over the country and how squishy (or not) elected Democrats will be in the face of that.

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
170. I sure hope Mamdani is better at politics than some of his supporters are.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:05 AM
Aug 2025

The whining and complaining in this thread on behalf of a candidate who is way ahead is a sight to see.

This here is one reason Democrats lose elections.

Mamdani is enormously popular among Democrats and Independents, but for some reason that's not good enough.

betsuni

(28,693 posts)
205. Populist conspiracy theories of evil corrupt enemies who will stop at nothing to thwart their heroes,
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 12:05 PM
Aug 2025

even when the hero is winning and popular and it's an election, it's politics, of course there are PACs and other candidates running against them. Desperate to be victims of nothing real. Republicans are real.

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
206. Some of it is entitlement and complacency.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 12:07 PM
Aug 2025

If one is a fairly affluent citizen of another country, it's easy to sit at one's keyboard and tell people what to do. It's easy to get up on a high horse and cosplay "courage."

Those of us living with the result of divisive purity politics feel differently.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
185. They can't - not in NJ
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:28 AM
Aug 2025

Fulop and Baraka were great candidates (I supported Baraka in the primary).

At the end of the day - the Moderate Liberal won.

Rob H.

(5,781 posts)
324. It's not being a member of the purity police to point out that there's no way
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:12 PM
Aug 2025

Booker will endorse Mamdani, a Muslim candidate, when AIPAC has given him 870,000+ reasons not to. If he were to do that, next election they’d bury Booker’s opponent under a mountain of campaign funds. Like it or not, AIPAC has a history of doing that to any candidate who crosses them or comes out against Israel’s actions in Gaza.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
183. It is several places on this thread
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:26 AM
Aug 2025

It's also showing a monumental lack of consideration for the residents of New Jersey.

We just don't matter at ALL to some folks.

NYC - should be alllllllllllll we care about. Uh - nope.

I live 45 miles away from there. IDGAF.

lostincalifornia

(4,897 posts)
194. Strange that some have no problem with the AAPAC, the Arab American
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:41 AM
Aug 2025

Political Action Committee. Some Only seem obsessed with an American PAC supported by many AMERICAN Jews, but also other Americans for maintaining good US-Israel relations.

It isn’t not run by Israel or any other foreign entity, which is misrepresented and lied about by its detractors. It is an American PAC, whose members are Americans.

but a nice excuse to blame instead of directly calling out what they really mean.


Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
210. It's no longer a code when most people easily understand what is meant.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 12:45 PM
Aug 2025

Ub-it's nub-o lubonguber uba cubode whuben mubost pubeopuble ubeasubily ubunduberstuband whubat ubis mubent.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
258. It's blatant
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 05:16 PM
Aug 2025

They just don't want any Jewish people to have agency.

Its ALL over threads right now.

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
325. A tiny portion of the US population, yet somehow responsible for the troubles of the whole country
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:15 PM
Aug 2025

The pot-stirrers aren’t even subtle at this point.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
182. Or mine
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:24 AM
Aug 2025

As a person has given over $4K over the years to his campaigns.

BTW - Not a member of aipac.

Let's correct this:

He's not going to do ANYTHING to piss off independent moderates in NJ - and potentially harming Sherrill, Freiman, and Drulis campaigns this year.

Can I ask a sincere question -

Do you honestly believe that if Booker is an aipac shill - it would be to Mamdani's benefit?

Rob H.

(5,781 posts)
251. IF? They've given him $870K+ and he posed in a group photo with war criminal Netanyahu in DC less than a month ago nt
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 03:29 PM
Aug 2025

Rob H.

(5,781 posts)
323. Only 8% of Democrats back what blood-soaked genocide enthusiast Netanyahu
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:02 PM
Aug 2025

Last edited Fri Aug 22, 2025, 01:57 PM - Edit history (1)

is doing in Israel. If you want to potentially commit electoral suicide by nominating someone who’s okay with posing for publicity photos with him, go off, I guess. Just don’t expect the rest of us to come along for the ride.

Rob H.

(5,781 posts)
377. It was a Gallup poll taken literally last month
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 01:16 PM
Aug 2025

that showed that only 8% of Democrats support Israel's military actions in Gaza and only 9% approve of Netanyahu himself. If you want to see the group photo Booker and others were in with Netanyahu, try Google. It was taken, and even posted about here, on July 11.

Next time, do your own homework.

JustAnotherGen

(37,526 posts)
357. So it WOULD hurt Mamdani!
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 05:47 AM
Aug 2025

. If you want to potentially commit electorsl suicide by nominating someone who’s okay with posing for publicity photos with him, go off


If you want Mamdani to lose, you will demand an endorsement from someone in a picture with Israel's Trump.

You have to understand - there are folks in America that do not have the Hamas Israel war in their top ten issues.

You have to accept that. You don't have to LIKE it - but acceptance is key.

Black folks see things for what they are. There are people in America that will use us, but then once they get what THEY want - throw us away. Tell us to wait. Say things are impossible.

We will.protect Booker. So will the ancestors.



BannonsLiver

(20,236 posts)
195. My takeaway from this thread is that I'm beyond sick and tired of hearing about the NYC mayoral race
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:45 AM
Aug 2025

And I know I can’t possibly be alone in that. I don’t GAF who wins I just want it to be over.

GiqueCee

(3,390 posts)
209. From what I've read...
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 12:35 PM
Aug 2025

... Mamdani is NOT anti-Israel, but he IS anti-Netanyahu, as any decent human being should be, and the two are NOT synonymous, though a great many zealots – especially Bibi – would have you believe they are. What he has done to Gaza is a war crime, period.

demmiblue

(39,202 posts)
213. I can only see maybe a third of the responses...
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:15 PM
Aug 2025

the ignore function is a wonderful thing!

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
223. He is correct to point out that he's in New Jersey, and New Yorkers can figure this out. Is he wrong?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:56 PM
Aug 2025

yardwork

(68,945 posts)
228. Apparently, he's a cowardly traitor. And more.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:00 PM
Aug 2025

This thread is a sight to see. Quite a ruckus on behalf of a candidate who is way ahead and doesn't need (or probably even want) an endorsement from an out of state senator.

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
236. Had to click on the link to find the name of the source: The Algemeiner. Why do I not know them?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:23 PM
Aug 2025

What is their particular slant?

Brenda

(1,930 posts)
239. Seems like Infighting is the intention of this OP.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 02:39 PM
Aug 2025

Also seems like certain people at DU only post flame bait and never contribute other than the lit fuse.

I mean - look at the source for this thread: the algemeiner. Who or what is that and why should I care about their attempt to rile up Dems about a non-issue?

Distraction from the Epstein files once again.



Brenda

(1,930 posts)
246. I gave it a cursory glance
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 03:09 PM
Aug 2025

so no, I have no idea who reads it. Do you?

I didn't see an "About" page which usually explains what the website is about.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,842 posts)
266. Funny how he had no problem endorsing NYC mayoral candidates before.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 05:47 PM
Aug 2025

I wonder why he won’t do it now….hmmm.

Actually I don’t wonder.

This entire party needs to be overhauled. Get off the ruling class money tit and get back to work for the People.

Quiet Em

(2,531 posts)
272. Chuck Schumer was the only Senator to endorse Eric Adams for NYC Mayor in 2021
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:10 PM
Aug 2025

The 2009 Bloomberg endorsement was made when Cory Booker was the Mayor of Newark.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,545 posts)
274. Booker "reached out" to Adams in 2021. Why does Booker being Mayor in 2009 matter?
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:16 PM
Aug 2025
Why Top Democrats Are Listening to Eric Adams Right Now

...
Still, there is no question that Mr. Adams has quickly made a national splash.

Mayor Nan Whaley of Dayton, Ohio, the president of the United States Conference of Mayors, has been texting with Mr. Adams and intends to speak with him soon, she said. She plans to invite him to the Conference’s annual meeting, slated for Austin toward the end of the summer.

Mr. Adams is also navigating critical relationships closer to home. He met with Chuck Schumer, the Senate majority leader, over the weekend. Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey, among others, has also reached out.

https://archive.ph/gCCgf

I'd have thought the fact that Bloomberg was running as a combined "Republican" and Independent, against a Democrat, is the more notable fact about the endorsement.

Quiet Em

(2,531 posts)
283. Booker never endorsed Eric Adams. Schumer was the only Senator that did.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:32 PM
Aug 2025

Booker and Bloomberg formed a friendship as Mayors of Newark and NYC on their common ground on gun control.

SocialDemocrat61

(6,767 posts)
273. Not according to Wikipedia
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:14 PM
Aug 2025
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_New_York_City_mayoral_election#Endorsements_2
The only democratic senator who endorsed Adams was Schumer. And can’t find anything about him endorsing anyone in 09 or any other NYC Mayors race. If I’m wrong and you have links to confirm he made previous endorsements, please provide them.

SocialDemocrat61

(6,767 posts)
279. Ok thanks
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:27 PM
Aug 2025

But Booker was Newark Mayor back then and Newark elections are nonpartisan. So Booker was an independent Mayor who endorsed another independent Mayor. Has he endorsed anyone since he was elected to the senate as a democrat?

electric_blue68

(25,781 posts)
312. This Algemeiner paper is a Orthodox Jewish Publication for the Hasidic Community. From Pew Reseach...
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 08:13 PM
Aug 2025

Last edited Fri Aug 8, 2025, 05:53 PM - Edit history (1)

I'm reposting this quote about this paper since I posted it in a way smaller sub-pist section.

(my underline)

"Orthodox Jews, however, stand out as a small subgroup (roughly one-in-ten Jewish adults) whose political profile is virtually the reverse of Jews as a whole: 60% of Orthodox Jews describe their political views as conservative, 75% identify as Republicans or lean toward the GOP, and 81% approved of Trump’s job performance at the time of the survey."


Hope this helps 👍

Cha

(316,680 posts)
338. Wow.. Problem is.. "republcans" are A Cult Now and
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 12:42 AM
Aug 2025

Run by a Pedo Rapist, Racist, Felon, Traitor and Psychopathic Liar..

No Excuses for hat.

TY

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
317. The OP is missing and presumed just looking for excitement. 317 posts and no sign of he who posted first.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:43 PM
Aug 2025

True Dough

(25,808 posts)
354. This is my first post in this thread
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 04:55 AM
Aug 2025

Yours prompted me to speak up. I have noticed a pattern of divisive posts by certain individuals. Threads started that highlight division within the party. Of course, I'm not naively suggesting that everyone should just get along, but a few individuals on the Du seem to relish exploiting even minor differences of opinion.

Anyway, I'll go back to observing now, but I have, once again, made a mental note of where this all started.

FakeNoose

(40,120 posts)
362. I've occasionally noticed this also
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 08:17 AM
Aug 2025

Whenever I see a post such as this one, where certain people keep harping the same points and won't let it go, I have a solution.... I put those DUers on my "ignore" list. It seems to take care of the problem, for me anyway.

betsuni

(28,693 posts)
369. Discovering a new nitpicking Democrat-bashing source is very very exciting! Like a dog running home
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 11:25 AM
Aug 2025

madly wagging its tail and drooling, LOOK LOOK LOOK LOOK LOOK I HAVE FOUND A BONE THIS IS FANTASTIC DID YOU SEE MY BONE! and all the dogs start barking.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,176 posts)
319. So OP now that your thread has invited animosity
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:46 PM
Aug 2025

and the inevitable demand for "purity" while successfully dividing Dems, what's your opinion?

myohmy2

(3,704 posts)
333. it's...
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 11:50 PM
Aug 2025

...times like these that tests the mettle of a person...

...IMO, Cory failed that test...

...this will be remembered...

...

bdamomma

(69,155 posts)
358. very
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 06:12 AM
Aug 2025

disappointed in Senator Booker, is he part of the status quo????

After reading most of these comments about Senator Booker, I guess his focusing on his own campaign and state he would be better off.

All the best to Mr. Mamdani. I'm all in for some new ideas and people in our party.

betsuni

(28,693 posts)
359. As usual, Democrats never get the benefit of the doubt, their motives assumed to be nefarious,
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 06:49 AM
Aug 2025

the flimsiest negative stories and conspiracy theories instantly believed without proof, insult with weaponized Us vs Them words like establishment, centrist, status quo that don't mean anything.

lapucelle

(20,943 posts)
368. And the source of the link-washed story turns out to be a right wing website
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 11:02 AM
Aug 2025

that was later framed as a "NYC Jewish newspaper".



Initech

(107,370 posts)
374. Cowards!!!
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 12:07 PM
Aug 2025

Quit letting Rupert Murdoch control the narrative. They will steal this election if you let them!

The Bopper

(277 posts)
382. Putting this in
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 05:49 PM
Aug 2025

My Who gives a F file. Thinking like this gave us Trump. Purity tests are a fantasy and complaining gets us no where. The people who are voting one way or the other aren’t going to be swayed.

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