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LetMyPeopleVote

(176,317 posts)
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:36 PM Aug 2025

FBI officials say bureau has 'no legal authority' to arrest fleeing Texas Democrats: MSNBC

A boast by Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) that the FBI will intercede and take into custody Texas Democratic lawmakers who have fled the state to avoid a controversial gerrymandering bill, was shot down by MSNBC's Ken Dilanian on Thursday morning.

A boast by Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) that the FBI will intercede and take into custody Texas Democratic lawmakers who have fled the state to avoid a controversial gerrymandering bill, was shot down by MSNBC's Ken Dilanian on Thursday morning.

Raw Story (@rawstory.com) 2025-08-07T16:30:34Z

https://www.rawstory.com/fbi-no-legal-nexus-msnbc/

According to Dilanian, Cornyn's comments should be taken with a grain of salt.

As he explained to host Anna Cabrera, "Well, the FBI has not responded to our inquiries asking that very question. So I think, first of all, we need to greet Cornyn's announcement with a bit of skepticism, given that he is in the most difficult primary battle of his career and is trying to appeal to far-right Republicans in Texas."

"But look, the experts, current and former FBI and Justice Department officials I've spoken to about this in the last half hour have uniformly said there is no grounds whatsoever, no legal authority for the FBI to assist local authorities in locating, for example, Texas legislators, most of whom are believed to be in Illinois. They would need a crime to have been committed, a federal crime, to have some kind of nexus to use their formidable surveillance powers."

He later added, "So it will be interesting to see whether the FBI later today actually answers our questions and describes what, if anything, they plan to do here."

"But what my sources are saying is a there's no grounds for this, but if the FBI is doing anything, it's very troubling because it suggests that the FBI, if they are doing something pursuant to this, has become kind of a Republican Praetorian Guard here because, again, no jurisdiction, no legal nexus, no federal crime committed. And so there are rules about when the FBI can use their vast surveillance powers, and they do not seem to be implicated in this case."


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tulipsandroses

(8,180 posts)
1. If trump wants them to, they will. Especially if he thinks it will divert attention from talking about Epstein
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:40 PM
Aug 2025

I won't be surprised if they come up with some absurd charge to get the FBI involved.

calimary

(89,253 posts)
13. Nope. He's a Repub. so all he cares about is POWER.
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 12:01 AM
Aug 2025

Unfortunately, that’s all the GOP cares about: POWER.

POWER to run your life. POWER to make the big important (AND personal and private) decisions FOR you. They don’t want you making your own decisions about YOUR life, YOUR needs and preferences, and YOUR circumstances.

markodochartaigh

(5,190 posts)
2. Once again
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:49 PM
Aug 2025

the floodwaters have hit the dike. Will the dike hold, or will the foundations of the dike prove to be rotten and be washed away faster than a Texas campground?

ancianita

(43,151 posts)
6. "no jurisdiction, no legal nexus, no federal crime committed" which means that if the FBI acts anyway, they'd be
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:15 PM
Aug 2025

a lawless gestapo.

The power of the Gestapo was used to focus upon political opponents, seological dissenters (clergy and religious organisations), career criminals, the Sinti and Roma population, handicapped persons, homosexuals, and, above all, the Jews. Those arrested by the Gestapo were often held without judicial process, and political prisoners throughout Germany ... simply disappeared while in Gestapo custody...
After the war ended, the Gestapo was declared a criminal organisation by the International Military Tribunal (IMT) at the Nuremberg trials, and several top Gestapo members were sentenced to death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo

If we ever get back in power, we're going to have to hold tribunals on behalf of all those shipped off to other countries, not to mention for our own national reconciliation.

FakeNoose

(40,584 posts)
7. Exactly right - the FBI hates this as much as we do
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:23 PM
Aug 2025

They aren't a lawless gestapo, and they don't want to become one either....

ancianita

(43,151 posts)
8. I hope you're right. But as you know, FBI people are getting fired for being too honorable in keeping their oaths.
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:31 PM
Aug 2025

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
10. Even I knew that. Cornyn as an attorney, jurist, and lawmaker should know it. Either stupidity or senility. . . . nt
Thu Aug 7, 2025, 08:31 PM
Aug 2025

Jack Valentino

(4,594 posts)
14. NO FUCKING KIDDING???!!!!
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 12:32 AM
Aug 2025

MAGATs talking about it is simple intimidation tactics
with no basis in law whatsoever....


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