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Good on Go Pritzker.
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BREAKING: In a powerful moment, Governor JB Pritzker just announced that he will not allow Texas Rangers to come and arrest anyone in Illinois. This is amazing.
Link to tweet
Skittles
(169,298 posts)What the FUCK would they think of Illinois sending people to Texas to arrest somone? The hypocrisy of repukes NEVER ceases to amaze me.
AllaN01Bear
(28,509 posts)zorbasd
(512 posts)but not hell or high water vice versa. The superiority complex is from the fascist Christian nationalist mindset, that they are the privileged ones to rule over others by force.
Skittles
(169,298 posts)but JFC, the way they come off to ANYONE with critical thinking skills
PatSeg
(51,979 posts)that they can do whatever they want. Laws be damned, they don't need no "stinkin' laws".
MyOwnPeace
(17,441 posts)by allowing a convicted felon to manipulate the courts and laws to once again hold the highest office - giving him approval for his destruction of this once-great country.
I weep for what weve become.
PatSeg
(51,979 posts)when it suits their prejudices. They want the law to punish their enemies, but turn a blind eye to members of their tribe.
Their idea of illegal or immoral is contingent on who is the perpetrator and what is their race, religion, politics, and gender identity.
MyOwnPeace
(17,441 posts)tracking down "ILLEGALS!"
Maybe start at the White House!
PatSeg
(51,979 posts)It's not about "illegals", as it is quite clear that they don't care about what is legal and what is illegal. It is about what and who they like and what and who they dislike.
These tend to be the most subjective people in the world, seemingly incapable of seeing any situation through the eyes of other people.
Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #91)
PatSeg This message was self-deleted by its author.
thought crime
(1,145 posts)calimary
(88,898 posts)What WOULD they do, facing that old turnabout is fair play approach? How would they like it, pray tell?
soldierant
(9,261 posts)thought crime
(1,145 posts)BTW - Based on population California should have Forty Senators.
Can a war breakout between Texas and Illinois?
I spent many years in Illinois, none in Texas.
I guess I will be joining the Illinois militia/
Irish_Dem
(79,454 posts)Starting with Texas rangers and Ill State Police?
thought crime
(1,145 posts)Irish_Dem
(79,454 posts)Just what Trump wants.
thought crime
(1,145 posts)Irish_Dem
(79,454 posts)It is a blue on blue conflict then.
byronius
(7,891 posts)And it all ends when California gets pissed off.
Fuckers.
vanlassie
(6,217 posts)Magoo48
(6,687 posts)From my point of view here in South California, the bear is really getting pissed off.
thought crime
(1,145 posts)hadEnuf
(3,512 posts)but if push comes to shove these Texas morons need to understand that they are not going to push other states around. And if it takes opposing force for them to understand that then so be it.
Skittles
(169,298 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 10, 2025, 04:51 AM - Edit history (1)
as with the Civil War, one side is clearly wrong
thought crime
(1,145 posts)berniesandersmittens
(13,059 posts)Chasstev365
(7,032 posts)They'll turn tail quickly!
Attilatheblond
(8,191 posts)Trump is begging for excuses to usurp the Guards in every state.
Hornedfrog2000
(866 posts)Democrats should just say no. Want to know why? Because Donald Trump was installed by Putin, and our own intelligence agenices say that was the case. It literally doesnt matter what he, or the illigitimate supreme court thinks.
The numbers are on our side.
Attilatheblond
(8,191 posts)and it doesn't bode well for democracy.
ITAL
(1,251 posts)They say the Russians meddled in our election by influencing the electorate through targeted ads and mass disinformation. But there was nothing that came out from them saying they actually changed vote totals.
Now did they cause Trump to win? It's likely that program worked just enough to tilt the election. But they weren't actually stuffing ballot boxes or removing votes, so saying Putin installed him isn't exactly factual.
padah513
(2,706 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,124 posts)That's what everybody says. Nothing much, just a little meddling, like an annoying in-law.
It was conspiracy.
ITAL
(1,251 posts)But it's also a far cry from installation.
Chasstev365
(7,032 posts)Response to Attilatheblond (Reply #21)
Chasstev365 This message was self-deleted by its author.
Captain Zero
(8,721 posts)Crowman2009
(3,395 posts)William Gustafson
(529 posts)ancianita
(42,768 posts)B.See
(7,659 posts)AG (and a gaggle of other MAGAT signatories) tried to sue four OTHER states in the hopes of throwing out THEIR 2020 election results.
the South shall reich again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._Pennsylvania
orangecrush
(28,134 posts)littlemissmartypants
(31,492 posts)Wants a Nobel. Ridiculous.
Historic NY
(39,585 posts)quakerboy
(14,699 posts)What other authority is needed in a country under unified control?
Arazi
(8,684 posts)Good
sueh
(1,932 posts)hamsterjill
(16,923 posts)Very grateful for him.
greatauntoftriplets
(178,592 posts)The man has guts.
mountain grammy
(28,640 posts), You sure can pick em!
chicoescuela
(2,611 posts)boonecreek
(1,368 posts)"These warrants are only enforceable within state lines, making them a largely
symbolic threat that also ensures any members who return to the statecan be
apprehended and returned to the chamber."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/paxton-asks-illinois-court-to-enforce-texas-arrest-warrants-against-democrats-who-left-the-state/ar-AA1K7xf5
AntiFascist
(13,718 posts)https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sen-cornyn-fbi-granted-request-locate-fleeing-texas/story?id=124446304
Hornedfrog2000
(866 posts)Fuckem, send it to the courts, and tie it up in litigation. If the supreme republicans speed hear the case, do it again, or do something else to slow them down. Thank god someone is getting it.
AntiFascist
(13,718 posts)the FBI may move ahead, probably with the blessing of the DOJ.
PortTack
(35,810 posts)NOT be arresting anyone.
AntiFascist
(13,718 posts)you never know what masked, unidentified "agents" may try to do,
Hornedfrog2000
(866 posts)If they come, they should be arrested. Illigitimate president.
maspaha
(703 posts)berniesandersmittens
(13,059 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 7, 2025, 08:52 PM - Edit history (1)
Maybe Pritzker/Beshear
maspaha
(703 posts)Andy Beshear makes me proud to be from Kentucky!!
Lovie777
(21,602 posts)must win by anything necessary by stomping democracy. I truly hate the GQP along with their judges and justices.
MichMan
(16,565 posts)The Texas representatives can stay in Illinois for months if needed.
summer_in_TX
(4,023 posts)The pressure on them and on their families is enormous.
Opinion
JACK HOPKINS NOW
This Is Not a Drill: When the FBI Hunts Lawmakers for Political Resistance...Youre in a Coup
[snip]
By turning law enforcement into a political hit squad, Abbott signals that resistance to authoritarian agendas wont be tolerated. Its chilling.
This isn't just political theater; its precedent-shattering.
If the federal government can go after state legislators for political resistance, theres nothing stopping future governors from either party from weaponizing law enforcement against their opposition. Thats not hyperbole its a future already written.
[snip]
Trump directly backed the push calling on the FBI to intervene and declaring Republicans are entitled to more House seats.
Cornyn publicly thanked Patel and Trump for swift action, reinforcing the message that federal might serves partisan ends now.
This isnt a red-state aberration its a national test run.
The message is clear: resist us and youll be hunted.
By merging state coercion with federal power under the aegis of Trumpism Texas has accelerated from norm erosion to authoritarian training ground.
[snip]
Redistricting is weaponized; dissenters are illegal targets.
FBI becomes partisan enforcer not neutral protector.
Next session: civil rights protests voting access defenders anti-gerrymandering groups at risk of federal arrest orders.
MichMan
(16,565 posts)That's like pocket change
FBaggins
(28,618 posts)This isn't the first time this has happened
Last time we lasted 38 days... and we had several more Democrats in office at the time (meaning that fewer had to stay away to maintain the quorum-bust).
Texas legislators are "part time" and don't actually get paid much. Most have "real jobs" elsewhere. I'm not sure whether it would be legal or not for someone else to pay them to stay away... but whether that could happen or not they can't stay away indefinitely.
The strategy works if it gains enough national attention and energy to make the redistricting untenable for republicans... it can't win outright by denying the vote indefinitely. My guess is that we'll know in a few days when the term ends and the governor decides whether or not to call a special session.
H2O Man
(78,539 posts)I surely do like this!
C Moon
(13,433 posts)they'll be arrested. When did the gop start obeying the law? They feel they are way above the law right now.
Captain Zero
(8,721 posts)Texas legislature sessions?
How do TX Republicans say they aren't Nazis at that point?
hadEnuf
(3,512 posts)their made up laws.
We are going to be pushed to a point where we're just going to have to say NO and be ready to back it up. Unfortunately we're not as ready for trouble as most of these red states are.
choie
(6,528 posts)from arresting anybody, can he?
BidenRocks
(2,705 posts)it would be kidnapping.
That would be fun to watch.
FakeNoose
(40,023 posts)They have no authority to arrest Texas politicians in or outside of Texas.
choie
(6,528 posts)IcyPeas
(24,794 posts)Trump will get his way. He's talking about national guard in Wash DC because one guy got beat up. FFS
These fuckers and their law and order.
Gavin Newsom fought trump over the national guard in the courts. First Gavin won, then Trump's courts overruled a few hours later.
.
Trump deployed the troops through a presidential memo on June 7 and cited a rarely used federal statute permitting a president to deploy the National Guard in times of invasion, domestic rebellion or the inability for the federal government to carry out its laws. Trumps order was for 60 days and technically applied to all of the state Nation Guards in the U.S.
Trump praised the courts decision in a social media post last night and hinted that he may consider federalizing state National Guard troops in the future.
https://share.google/I2ltVo9VpfjlqIY3i
(Initially there were 2000 national guard troops here about 200 remain)
Iris
(16,833 posts)UTUSN
(76,724 posts)Sneederbunk
(17,223 posts)MissouriDem47
(392 posts)Why doesn't Illinois put a group to together and go down to Texas and pull an ICE style raid, (no identification, no warrants) and gather up the Republican Texas Governor and all high ranking Texas Republican officials and take back to Illinois or ship them to a 3rd world country?
Skittles
(169,298 posts)just a guess
MissouriDem47
(392 posts)I know they are not, been married to one, who was "the one" for the last 33 years.
bluestarone
(21,083 posts)I hope we can trust your law enforcement people.
bluestarone
(21,083 posts)Love him from this day forward!!
murielm99
(32,648 posts)stage left
(3,189 posts)You wouldn't mind lending him to the entire US for say, 8 years?
bluestarone
(21,083 posts)myohmy2
(3,704 posts)...this is what we need...
...more Dems like Illinois Governor Pritzker...
...
LeftInTX
(34,013 posts)And we welcomed them. They are still here too.
Jack Valentino
(4,274 posts)if they wish to drink water out of mud puddles--- that is ok...
democrank
(12,080 posts)Bold, unwavering opposition to these fascists is the only way forward.
stollen
(1,040 posts)and over 100 adults to a flood catastrophe of the state's own making, and this is how Abbott spends his time??
Clouds Passing
(6,860 posts)dsp3000
(683 posts)Prairie Gates
(7,133 posts)dsp3000
(683 posts)Prairie Gates
(7,133 posts)WTF?
dsp3000
(683 posts)Jewish isn't gonna fly. If pritzker has enough charisma to overcome that then it's possible.
DFW
(59,697 posts)Abbott wants to cheat the voters of Texas out of their representation with his blatantly corrupt gerrymandering, for which he needs an even more unevenly drawn district map of Texas than exists now.
This reminds me of a situation between France and Switzerland some 45 years ago. France, totally incapable of managing their budget, kept dreaming up more and more taxes upon their people. Even then, our infant office in Paris was paying a 55% (!!!) payroll tax for our employees there, and they were getting hit for nearly another 50% out of what was left over, as well as paying a 20% VAT on everything they bought. But even that wasn't enough.
Many French citizens who could, hid their money in Switzerland, right across the border. That wasn't illegal, though not declaring it was. But the French weren't content with what pressure they could bring to bear on the Swiss through diplomatic channels, nor on their own citizens, who had been giving French governments the finger since 1789. So, they illegally sent their own agents into Switzerland to spy on French citizens. The Swiss noticed right away (it's like the move was unexpected), and arrested some of the French government people for operating illegally on Swiss Territory. The French went predictably ballistic, but the Swiss said, this is our country, and we have our laws, and while French citizens are welcome here, they will respect our laws, or get arrested and tossed out. Now Switzerland is tiny compared to France, and outside of watches, cheese, chocolate, and outdoor sports, they don't have much outside of their banking industry. But they DO have their fiercely guarded independence (neutral and no interest in joining the EU, which surrounds them on all sides), and they do not appreciate ham-fisted neighbors telling them what to do.
Pritzker may have some Swiss blood in him, but in any case, he is taking the same stance. Illinois is THEIR state, with laws enacted by ITS people, which will be enforced by Illinois law enforcement. Pritzker may not be able to force Texas to conduct its elections fairly, but he sure as hell is under no legal obligation to let Abbott enforce Texas laws in Illinois that have no standing in Illinois.
I don't have to presume that it would do any good to remind Abbott that the resistance to his gerrymandering of Texas is due to the fact that Texans don't want it.
markbark
(1,622 posts)And then arrest them once they hit the state.
Take them to an "undisclosed location"
When asked, reply "Rangers? What Rangers. We know nothing of any Rangers"
Goose, gander, sauce -- you know the deal.