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Trueblue Texan

(4,197 posts)
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 01:35 PM Aug 2025

Speculation about Epstein...

I've been thinking that if they could redact TSF from the Epstein Files, they certainly would have. So, why haven't they released them? Why haven't they purged all references to TSF and left members of the Left to hang out to dry? It seems to me, the only reason they wouldn't is that TSF was in too many places in those files. Maybe he was MAIN subject of the files. What if Epstein knew he was going to be busted and raided and put only those videos and other evidence in his NY apartment that pertained to TSF? What if every bit of video confiscated merely implicated TSF? Wouldn't that be a clear warning to TSF and his corrupt justice department that he had a lot more to lose than gain from pursuing charges against Epstein? hmmmm It would certainly add incentive to those implicated to handle him quickly and efficiently.

I just think this is a really interesting story and one that we all have thoughts to share about it.

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FakeNoose

(40,230 posts)
1. There's also the theory that Putin paid Epstein or rewarded him for any evidence against Chump
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 01:49 PM
Aug 2025

If true, that made Epstein a very wealthy man.

Yes Epstein would have been smart to collect all the stuff he had on Chump and keep it handy ... just in case.

mwmisses4289

(3,266 posts)
3. Been seeing speculation that trumpy boy was much
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 02:13 PM
Aug 2025

more involved with epstien and Maxwell than being good friends and attending parties at epstiens various properties. Maybe business partners?

usonian

(23,610 posts)
4. Anything more than suspected pedophilia is beyond even my speculation (such as spying and so on)
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 02:49 PM
Aug 2025

It's likely that both Epstein and Putin were photographing stuff. They are/were both photographers/videographers.

Check this out.
Found on Mainboard.



Caption:
Vladimir Putin (while a KGB agent) poses as a tourist within killing range of President Reagan.

Putin DEFINITELY has goods on little Krasnov. His behavior is completely in line with that.

Maybe he thought that he could "handle" Epstein. That's pretty murky, but he ain't Saint Paul, getting a flash of light and changing. He is a consistent abuser and rapist, who likes them "on the younger side" And a very long companionship.

I think that the delays (Thanks, Mikey) are for AI to alter documents. But something will go wrong in the process, and of course, AI hallucinates like it was on LSD. Delay always worked for him. Distract, Delay, Deflect, ....

And, big matter, there are lots of Epstein customers in politics and on courts, no doubt. Hint, Hint. that aren't on Putin's stash.

Trueblue Texan

(4,197 posts)
5. I do suspect that TSF wanted a cut of the profits and that's why their friendship ended.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 05:44 PM
Aug 2025

Epstein believed TSF turned him in to the FBI. That's probably because he couldn't get a cut. He's so vindictive like that. I hope it will prove to be his fatal flaw.

RealityChik

(394 posts)
8. If you follow emptywheel.org...
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 09:54 PM
Aug 2025

There has been discussion on the timeline of their friendship. It’s quite possible Epstein and Trump were partners in the sex-trafficking operation and the blackmail/extortion thing. Someone has been tracking their wealth accumulation during that time. Trump was trying to recover from a divorce and a recent bankruptcy. Yet he had money that was hard to trace. Epstein, well, no one has figured out for sure if he was a spy for Massad or not. All this stuff is out there, but tying it all together is still a laborious crapshoot, according to researchers. Emptywheel.org is quite dense in high level data, for the advanced researchers. Nobody does it better. Marcy Wheeler got her start researching the mob. She has the goods on Russiagate, Epstein, the Russian mob. It’s mind boggling. I lurk only cuz I don’t have the depth of knowledge to contribute anything useful there. It’s quite intimidating, but what’s found there is jaw-dropping.

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