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no_hypocrisy

(54,292 posts)
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 08:03 PM Aug 2025

Addressing any of you who are on TSF's Death Watch . . . . .

I can testify from experience that don't waste your time. It happens when it happens.

My own experience: My father was a malignant narcissist. I was the only one of the three children who returned home to look after him as he was 92 and our mother was predeceased. And he was a handful and still abusive.

You bet I had passing thoughts about his demise. But I didn't dwell on them.

Sunday night, I kissed him good night. Didn't see him at all on Monday. Tuesday at 6 p.m., I was having coffee at D&D when the town police called to notify me that he had been taken to the regional hospital.

I notified my siblings and rushed to the ER. The staff worked on him for 3 hours, but he was gone.

I found out later that his death was caused by his own hand. One week before, he rear-ended a van at a gas station, causing his breastbone to hit the steering column. (It was an old car w/o air bags.) He refused medical attention and hid from me and my siblings his accident. But because he didn't follow up with a doctor, he didn't realize that he had a partially dissected aorta, with a slow bleed into his chest for seven days. And on the day of his death, he had actually gone for a therapeutic massage, not realizing that his backache was a warning of an impending heart attack, which he later sustained. (The massage hastened the heart attack.)

And you bet I didn't see THIS coming . . . . .

So, my point is life and death are sort of like the theatrical device of deus ex machina, the proverbial hand of God coming out of the clouds and messing with the plot of the play. TSF will go when he goes and you won't see it coming.

Go get another cup of coffee or an icy cold bottle of beer. You'll know soon enough.


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Addressing any of you who are on TSF's Death Watch . . . . . (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Aug 2025 OP
I'm figuring on a delightful, serendipitous surprise, maybe even on a day Ocelot II Aug 2025 #1
Trump's demise rso Aug 2025 #2
My longstanding scenario for DJT's end... homegirl Aug 2025 #31
They'll keep him going, and going, and going, long after death. usonian Aug 2025 #3
Exactly so Nasruddin Aug 2025 #10
When AI is not rewriting the Epstein files. usonian Aug 2025 #13
He went golfing today anyway. LeftInTX Aug 2025 #4
Well I looked but no photos of him actually golfing. And he looked like shit. 58Sunliner Aug 2025 #33
I think he had a colonoscopy on Thursday Captain Zero Aug 2025 #41
Apparently he had one in 2019, but refused anesthesia LeftInTX Aug 2025 #42
They generally would not give a colonoscopy to someone who has health issues and is as old as him. 58Sunliner Aug 2025 #46
Yeah... I gave up after the covid fiasco ecstatic Aug 2025 #5
Yeah, I figured he would survive when he was harassing Secret Service and appearing on the balcony. LeftInTX Aug 2025 #20
I think we can probably bet on MF45 being kept alive FoxNewsSucks Aug 2025 #6
So the telekinesis I've been concentrating on Frasier Balzov Aug 2025 #7
That would be Thought Crime. thought crime Aug 2025 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author 58Sunliner Aug 2025 #36
I Plan To Party... GB_RN Aug 2025 #8
Is it that narcissists live longer or is it that the misery they cause just makes it seem that way? Intractable Aug 2025 #9
It's 3auld6phart Aug 2025 #14
Personally, I like to fantasize about the moment I hear about it. Buddyzbuddy Aug 2025 #11
I picture Krasnov terrified... ultralite001 Aug 2025 #43
Me too. But it's only one aspect of a whole movie Buddyzbuddy Aug 2025 #44
I hear you... ultralite001 Aug 2025 #47
He won't die in my lifetime out of shear spite. BigmanPigman Aug 2025 #12
We enjoyed a few hours of happiness! BidenRocks Aug 2025 #15
Trump's a pig (and many other bad things) and I won't be sorry to see him go Jarqui Aug 2025 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2025 #17
GTFO Lucky Luciano Aug 2025 #18
Post removed Post removed Aug 2025 #21
They don't hate the left. They hate milquetoast. Lucky Luciano Aug 2025 #24
Post removed Post removed Aug 2025 #28
You gave no advice Lucky Luciano Aug 2025 #29
Welcome to du Emile Aug 2025 #23
Funny how they never seem to stick around for long. Xavier Breath Aug 2025 #26
I'm going to get a city permit for a street dance when it happens. n/t dobleremolque Aug 2025 #19
All this reminds me.... ReRe Aug 2025 #22
Yes, he is. Wasn't he supposed to die about 20 years ago? LeftInTX Aug 2025 #39
Believe me, I never cared for him. ReRe Aug 2025 #40
No, it can't be soon enough. nt KPN Aug 2025 #27
I can't help it. He looks just bad enough Demobrat Aug 2025 #30
A known fact about accident victims and chest compression caused by the steering wheel. 58Sunliner Aug 2025 #32
He sounds like my malignant mother. murielm99 Aug 2025 #34
Want to start a Dead Pool? Xolodno Aug 2025 #35
No because we'll all lose LeftInTX Aug 2025 #37
Your karma will be very severe if Gm7 Aug 2025 #38
There's too much evil in this world to believe Buddyzbuddy Aug 2025 #45

Ocelot II

(129,098 posts)
1. I'm figuring on a delightful, serendipitous surprise, maybe even on a day
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 08:08 PM
Aug 2025

when I could use a little cheering up. But it will be a surprise in any event.

rso

(2,635 posts)
2. Trump's demise
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 08:15 PM
Aug 2025

I certainly hope that Trump does not make it to 92 or anywhere close to that.

homegirl

(1,926 posts)
31. My longstanding scenario for DJT's end...
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 10:24 PM
Aug 2025

he has a stroke leaving him speechless, confined to a wheelchair for 30 years before he finally dies!

usonian

(23,571 posts)
3. They'll keep him going, and going, and going, long after death.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 08:17 PM
Aug 2025


Dr. FrankEpstein on the job!

You know, he's already a chatbot ...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220281483
reposted here


https://www.techdirt.com/2025/04/29/the-hallucinating-chatgpt-presidency/

Judge for yourself.

Tue, Apr 29th 2025 09:34am - Mike Masnick

We generally understand how LLM hallucinations work. An AI model tries to generate what seems like a plausible response to whatever you ask it, drawing on its training data to construct something that sounds right. The actual truth of the response is, at best, a secondary consideration.

snip

But over the last few months, it has occurred to me that, for all the hype about generative AI systems “hallucinating,” we pay much less attention to the fact that the current President does the same thing, nearly every day. The more you look at the way Donald Trump spews utter nonsense answers to questions, the more you begin to recognize a clear pattern — he answers questions in a manner quite similar to early versions of ChatGPT. The facts don’t matter, the language choices are a mess, but they are all designed to present a plausible-sounding answer to the question, based on no actual knowledge, nor any concern for whether or not the underlying facts are accurate.

snip

This is not the response of someone working from actual knowledge or policy understanding. Instead, it’s precisely how an LLM operates: taking a prompt (the question about job losses) and generating text based on some core parameters (the “system prompt” that requires deflecting blame and asserting greatness).

The hallmarks of AI generation are all here:
• Confident assertions without factual backing
• Meandering diversions that maintain loose semantic connection to the topic
• Pattern-matching to previous responses (“ripped off,” “billions of dollars”)
• Optimization for what sounds good rather than what’s true


Great article and hard to summarize, because the author gives so many spot-on examples.

Nasruddin

(1,177 posts)
10. Exactly so
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:20 PM
Aug 2025

Maybe that's the point of the support for AI. Planning on keeping him "alive" as a digital entity until a functional android body can be put in place.

usonian

(23,571 posts)
13. When AI is not rewriting the Epstein files.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:30 PM
Aug 2025

Mikey bought some time, and the Trump crime family are masters of delay.

Look for hallucinations.

58Sunliner

(6,273 posts)
46. They generally would not give a colonoscopy to someone who has health issues and is as old as him.
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 09:44 AM
Aug 2025

Unless he had some other factor, like bleeding from the rectum that wasn't caused by an anal fistula or hemorrhoid's. With his diet, colon cancer would not surprise me.

ecstatic

(35,012 posts)
5. Yeah... I gave up after the covid fiasco
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 08:25 PM
Aug 2025

A few YouTube psychics had me convinced that trump was about to die. 🙄

LeftInTX

(34,015 posts)
20. Yeah, I figured he would survive when he was harassing Secret Service and appearing on the balcony.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:43 PM
Aug 2025

Like a king.
What? He was hoarse? And that was about it.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,501 posts)
6. I think we can probably bet on MF45 being kept alive
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 08:26 PM
Aug 2025

via the best taxpayer-funded healthcare possible, until ONE day after his second complete year.

That way Couchfucker Vance can serve the maximum time. Of course, that assumes republicons continue to give minimal lip service to the constitution.

Frasier Balzov

(4,871 posts)
7. So the telekinesis I've been concentrating on
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 08:45 PM
Aug 2025

is futile?

No. I refuse to believe that.

I just need more folks to join me in the mental focus needed to still that offending heartbeat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telekinesis

Response to Frasier Balzov (Reply #7)

Intractable

(1,646 posts)
9. Is it that narcissists live longer or is it that the misery they cause just makes it seem that way?
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:17 PM
Aug 2025

3auld6phart

(1,670 posts)
14. It's
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:30 PM
Aug 2025

The misery, that makes time drag out. Like your take on this matter… que Sara, what will be

Buddyzbuddy

(2,130 posts)
11. Personally, I like to fantasize about the moment I hear about it.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:26 PM
Aug 2025

I also occasionally buy a lottery ticket when the amount is a life changing event. I buy it not expecting to win but for the nights filled with dreams of the help that I would be able to provide to family, friends and those in need. To me, that's worth a few bucks. And, I prolong hearing about the results as long as possible. It's my guilty pleasure.

So, waiting for the bad, horribly, devastating news just makes me giddy with anticipation. It will happen when it happens, I only wish for long bouts of pain and misery for his eventual final breath. Maybe a moment of clarity at the realization of his inept, failed existence and fear of the end.
I too had an abuser and that piece of dung is still in existence after 82 years but I will get no joy in his demise because I don't care.

Buddyzbuddy

(2,130 posts)
44. Me too. But it's only one aspect of a whole movie
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 05:35 AM
Aug 2025

I have screening in my mind. Retirement has left me with too much time and too little focus for the things that are more fulfilling. What a waste of 3.4 years.

BigmanPigman

(54,574 posts)
12. He won't die in my lifetime out of shear spite.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:27 PM
Aug 2025

He is the most vengeful spawn ever and he lives to harm others. A true sadist. His hatred feeds him.

"Clots and Prayers" none the less!

Jarqui

(10,824 posts)
16. Trump's a pig (and many other bad things) and I won't be sorry to see him go
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:35 PM
Aug 2025

But he's only there because Republicans wanted him to be there.
His enablers won't die with him.
They'll enable Vance to carry on ...

Our focus needs to be on those who enabled Trump.

Response to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Lucky Luciano

(11,814 posts)
18. GTFO
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:41 PM
Aug 2025

Your hero is a sadistic psychopath that needs to be stopped. He is actively causing death and misery. He relishes it because he is a sadist.

I’d prefer he goes to prison, but that has a lower probability of happening than the KFC finally taking him out. True Vance et al still exist, but they don’t have the cult appeal.

Response to Lucky Luciano (Reply #18)

Lucky Luciano

(11,814 posts)
24. They don't hate the left. They hate milquetoast.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 09:50 PM
Aug 2025

Democrats need to step up and get much more rambunctious. The old political game is done. Unfortunately, we have to resort to the retaliatory tactics of Newsom. The low approval of democrats in polls included people like me that want them to get more aggressive instead of being Droopy Dog Merrick Garlands. I sure as fuck want MAGA dead and buried where people are ashamed of ever associating with it.

Bill Clinton noted that people do have a propensity of voting for strong and wrong over quiet and principled- not to say Dems are always principled - they do have billionaires to please as well. Authoritarian is always wrong. Always. There is no spectrum. It is black and white.

Response to Lucky Luciano (Reply #24)

Lucky Luciano

(11,814 posts)
29. You gave no advice
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 10:06 PM
Aug 2025

David Hogg deserved a bigger voice. Sure.

Bernie started it, but AOC and Mamdani seem like the path forward. They have the charisma which is key these days. I know you’ll drone on about communism or whatever the fuck, but I don’t think they are proposing state control of everything. Your boy is with his INTC stake.

They want basic things to be affordable. You allow that to happen and things will be a lot better. Instead you vote in MAGA which has nobody’s interests in mind who is worth less than $10B. At least you get to own the libs though, amirite?

LeftInTX

(34,015 posts)
39. Yes, he is. Wasn't he supposed to die about 20 years ago?
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:07 PM
Aug 2025

Heart attack in 1978
Heart bypass in 1988
Defibrillator implanted since 2001.
A bunch of other heart procedures as VP which I can't even pronounce
Atrial Fibrillation since 2007

More heart surgeries after he left office

In early-July 2010, Cheney was outfitted with a left-ventricular assist device (LVAD) at Inova Fairfax Heart and Vascular Institute to compensate for worsening congestive heart failure.[228] The device pumped blood continuously through his body.[229][230] He was released from Inova on August 9, 2010,[231] and had to decide whether to seek a full heart transplant.[232][233] This pump was centrifugal and as a result he remained alive without a pulse for nearly fifteen months.[234]


Heart transplant in 2012

His health history ends in 2012. The reason he lives on: He's evil. The guy had no pulse for 15 months! And he's still alive.

ReRe

(12,174 posts)
40. Believe me, I never cared for him.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:38 PM
Aug 2025
He was the evil one behind W and Colin Powell. He's got to be on a high powered batterie or something. How on earth could he still be alive??? I used to look at him as old. Now I'm old! He must be ancient in there. Like Halloween in there.

Demobrat

(10,263 posts)
30. I can't help it. He looks just bad enough
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 10:13 PM
Aug 2025

to keep hope alive. And it gives me something to look forward to every day. Those first few moments in the morning before I check the news when I say to myself “Is this the day? Did he die overnight?”
It’s like that moment right before you scratch the lottery ticket. You know the odds are bad, but…it’s fun anyway.

58Sunliner

(6,273 posts)
32. A known fact about accident victims and chest compression caused by the steering wheel.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 10:51 PM
Aug 2025

Accidents with chest compression caused by the steering wheel are not uncommon. In nursing and RT they hone this point in emergency care. Many accident victims don't realize there is a problem until it's critical.
As for your father, you were not, I assume, eagerly anticipating his demise. I find the anticipation has a distinct frisson. It may be sad, but I will take my pleasure where I find it with this horror.

murielm99

(32,693 posts)
34. He sounds like my malignant mother.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 10:59 PM
Aug 2025

She made it to 95.

I did my best to make sure she had what she needed. So did my middle brother. She was hateful and abusive anyway. She should have been in a nursing home. Eventually, I got her powers of attorney, financial and medical. I got a guardian for her. She insisted on living at home, alone. She fell and broke her pelvis in four places. Then she landed in a nursing home. She was supposed to stay in bed unless she had assistance getting up. She didn't listen. She fell again and broke her hip. Then she died. Everyone who knew her said that her death did not happen soon enough.

LeftInTX

(34,015 posts)
37. No because we'll all lose
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 11:03 PM
Aug 2025

My bet: It won't happen until he's out of office.

He's too consumed with power to die.

He's been dying since 2015. So, I'm not expecting much.


Dick Cheney is still around. He had his first heart attack in 1978
He also didn't have a pulse for 15 months! He had some bypass thing implanted until he could get a new heart.
He also had numerous surgeries while he was VP.

Buddyzbuddy

(2,130 posts)
45. There's too much evil in this world to believe
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 05:48 AM
Aug 2025

Karma's real. It's like making yourself feel better by believing evil people will get what's coming to them. When evil people meet their demise at the hands of another, I think it's just the odds. Such as Whitey Bulger and Jeffery Dahmer. The life you choose to live likely ends in the manner you chose. Again, Sadam, Gaddafi, Mussolini. That's just the likelihood, in my opinion.

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