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Miles Archer

(22,640 posts)
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:50 AM Sep 2025

Why, Donny RIngo...you look like Epstein just...walked over your Rose Garden umbrella patio

Frantic Trump Tries to Kill Vote to Force Open Epstein Files
RAMPING UP THE PRESSURE
A rogue Republican is rounding up GOP signatures.
Cameron Adams
Cameron Adams Reporter
Updated Sep. 3 2025 4:34AM EDT
Published Sep. 3 2025 4:22AM EDT

https://www.thedailybeast.com/frantic-trump-tries-to-kill-vote-to-force-open-epstein-files/

The White House has warned Republican rebels in Congress that pushing for the full release of the Jeffrey Epstein pedophile abuse files would be seen as “a very hostile act” by President Donald Trump.

The GOP-controlled House Oversight and Government Reform Committee released more than 33,000 Epstein documents on Tuesday evening, after a closed-door meeting with multiple victims of Epstein and accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell.

Democrats complained, however, 97 percent of the documents were already in the public record, and Republican Thomas Massie, who has clashed regularly with Trump this year, stepped up his push for a House vote on the release of the documents in full.

A White House official told CNN, “Helping Thomas Massie and Liberal Democrats with their attention-seeking, while the DOJ is fully supporting a more comprehensive file release effort from the Oversight Committee, would be viewed as a very hostile act to the administration.”

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Why, Donny RIngo...you look like Epstein just...walked over your Rose Garden umbrella patio (Original Post) Miles Archer Sep 2025 OP
This message approved by the Spirit Of Val Kilmer. hatrack Sep 2025 #1
If Trump is innocent why is releasing the files a hostile act? Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #2
It would be nice if someone from our johnnyfins Sep 2025 #3
It would be nice if every agency in the country were asking this of every rethug in the country. OldBaldy1701E Sep 2025 #26
Because he's not innocent. spanone Sep 2025 #9
Exactly, an innocent man would demand the files be released to clear his name. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #13
This is like a confession! spanone Sep 2025 #15
Yes he just made a public admission that he is guilty as hell. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #16
It's impossible to snip out the "Jeff likes beautiful women, just like me, many of them on the younger side" thing Miles Archer Sep 2025 #17
Throw in Trump's 'modeling' agency and teen beauty pageants... Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #28
The "Modeling Agency" is how he met his Slovenian trophy wife Miles Archer Sep 2025 #32
Melania (if we were to get the complete, unvarnished story) Grammy23 Sep 2025 #41
I agree with all of that. She was some of the merchandise at first and then probably travelingthrulife Sep 2025 #43
Well, he's claiming the Oversight Committe release is/will be more comprehensive MadameButterfly Sep 2025 #19
f he's not implicated in the files John Farmer Sep 2025 #46
G.O.P. on its knees to protect pedophiles BoRaGard Sep 2025 #4
. . . and themselves RVN VET71 Sep 2025 #8
And we don't know for sure about Mike Johnson's proclivities ... YET. live love laugh Sep 2025 #12
His fear that his son might explore internet porn and whack off to it RVN VET71 Sep 2025 #18
Also, older bulls like to keep the younger, up & coming bulls out of the herd. Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #29
Love the pic of Gen'l Butler RVN VET71 Sep 2025 #33
Some of the people Butler exposed were behind attempt to assasinate FDR before he was sworn in too. Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #34
Received 2 Congressional Medals of Honor and declined a third RVN VET71 Sep 2025 #36
Yep! Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #37
I read that a while back, also War is a Racket. Fascinating -- horrifying -- books RVN VET71 Sep 2025 #42
You and I would be comfortable with each other's book shelves. Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #45
I think his fear is that he does that and it becomes known, so his son is helping travelingthrulife Sep 2025 #44
Li'l Pervy took his young daughter to a Purity Ball, gave her a ring, & got her to promise to let daddy ... Hekate Sep 2025 #38
Soft incest ... live love laugh Sep 2025 #40
Hostile? EYESORE 9001 Sep 2025 #5
"Very hostile act" - really??? So was the sexual abuse of minor girls! augyboston Sep 2025 #6
He's guilty Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2025 #7
Nice reference. marble falls Sep 2025 #10
I'll be his huckle bearer. twodogsbarking Sep 2025 #11
TACO Don is going to have his Johnny Ringo moment. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2025 #14
So come on press IbogaProject Sep 2025 #20
Yeah but assuming guilt gets us nowhere MadameButterfly Sep 2025 #22
Nah, not our lazy, subservient press Hey Joe Sep 2025 #31
This is a threat MadameButterfly Sep 2025 #21
Every accusation is a confession: MLWR Sep 2025 #23
They just released that missing minute in the Epstein video... Trueblue Texan Sep 2025 #24
Perhaps some Repukes now see Donnie as a dead end? paleotn Sep 2025 #25
Sadly, Trump isn't the only one Putin has files on Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #30
"DOJ is fully supporting a more comprehensive file release" Martin Eden Sep 2025 #27
I think it H2O Man Sep 2025 #35
See film clip at post #14. I would never have caught that reference without it. Hekate Sep 2025 #39

johnnyfins

(3,706 posts)
3. It would be nice if someone from our
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:02 AM
Sep 2025

wonderful press would have the guts to actually ask that question.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,920 posts)
26. It would be nice if every agency in the country were asking this of every rethug in the country.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:34 AM
Sep 2025

Repeatedly.

Miles Archer

(22,640 posts)
17. It's impossible to snip out the "Jeff likes beautiful women, just like me, many of them on the younger side" thing
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 07:30 AM
Sep 2025

Here's the issue that I have NOT heard articulated by ANY "reporter / journalist."

Trump HANGING OUT WITH EPSTEIN, OFTEN, is not "fake news." HE DID.

That means he saw, first-hand, how "young" these women were. It's not like Trump spent an hour with him, left, and then Epstein yelled "OK, he's gone, bring out the underaged girls!"

Trump has no filters. He just says what's on his mind and doesn't give a damn about how anyone takes it. That's how we got the Access Hollywood tape.

So he was THERE. And, whoever wants to believe Ghislane "Golly Gee, I Sure Would Love A Pardon" Maxwell, he saw what was going on. He got a pretty good understanding of "what Jeff liked."

Now he wants to either pretend that he wasn't there, or that he was an innocent bystander.

ALAN DERSHOWITZ got a "massage" from one of Epstein's underaged girls and said it was OK "because he kept his underpants on."

That's what we're dealing with here, folks.

Attilatheblond

(8,660 posts)
28. Throw in Trump's 'modeling' agency and teen beauty pageants...
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:52 AM
Sep 2025

What's that smell? Fear!

Isn't there ample evidence that a lot of trafficking of women and girls used 'modeling agencies' to round up and move 'talent'? And there are plenty of beautiful grown women to have pageants with so why did he insist on having one for teen age girls that he could walk in on while they were in states of undress?

Why?
BECAUSE HE'S A CHILD MOLESTER, likely rapist.

Miles Archer

(22,640 posts)
32. The "Modeling Agency" is how he met his Slovenian trophy wife
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:34 AM
Sep 2025

Trump and Epstein both used the same "Modeling Agency." She's tried to deny that's how they met but did you notice she SUED the Daily Mail (U.K.) for discussing her "past," but hasn't threatened to SUE anyone over the "Modeling Agency" comments? She's DENIED it, but she's even more petulant and litigious than her husband, so if it were a falsehood, SHE WOULD HAVE ALREADY SUED.

Grammy23

(6,113 posts)
41. Melania (if we were to get the complete, unvarnished story)
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 11:01 PM
Sep 2025

Was probably one of Jeffrey’s “girls” and, in fact, had sex with her BEFORE tRump did. We know the Republicans have pushed the narrative that Melania is a high class, educated, cultured woman. But none of that was ever true — she was part of Epstein’s stable of girls that he kept for himself and his friends. She was ambitious and when given the chance to meet tRump and had her chance to be wife #3, she succeeded in landing him. The bargain they made (pre-nup) is probably in a legal document three feet thick. LOL. It is highly likely that Melania drove a hard bargain that has been regularly amended to meet her increasing demands in order for her to remain married to DJT.

travelingthrulife

(5,030 posts)
43. I agree with all of that. She was some of the merchandise at first and then probably
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 08:27 AM
Sep 2025

became part of the business. Trump was likely in business with Epstein...did he ever pass up a deal to make money? Especially if it satisfies his 'other needs' too.

MadameButterfly

(3,964 posts)
19. Well, he's claiming the Oversight Committe release is/will be more comprehensive
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 07:40 AM
Sep 2025

than Massey's bill, just to confuse the issue for the uninformed

John Farmer

(395 posts)
46. f he's not implicated in the files
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 04:27 PM
Sep 2025

why would he work so hard concealing them?

If he was the heroic informant, why not release the files and bask in the glory?

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
4. G.O.P. on its knees to protect pedophiles
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:08 AM
Sep 2025

repubes like to think of themselves as morally superior -- while circling the wagons to protect their pedo BESTIES.

RVN VET71

(3,175 posts)
8. . . . and themselves
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:54 AM
Sep 2025

I'm not saying that all Fascist Republicans (which is a redundancy, I know, I know) are pedos, themselves. I'm just saying that so many of them are, it's understandable why they'd want to protect one of their own. The rest, of course, the non-pedos, are just sniveling moral cowards, like Mike Johnson.

RVN VET71

(3,175 posts)
18. His fear that his son might explore internet porn and whack off to it
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 07:33 AM
Sep 2025

makes me wonder if he thinks that's the way to secure his "God's" forgiveness for his transgressions against children. Makes sense, in a sordid kind of way.

RVN VET71

(3,175 posts)
33. Love the pic of Gen'l Butler
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:13 PM
Sep 2025

A true American hero ignored by the Government when he exposed the operators of a would-be fascist coup. Even FDR, for chrissakes suffered from Democratic wimpiness at times. Even FDR.

Attilatheblond

(8,660 posts)
34. Some of the people Butler exposed were behind attempt to assasinate FDR before he was sworn in too.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:57 PM
Sep 2025

A true patriot who enlisted when under age and rose thru the ranks. He was beloved by most soldiers under his eventual command. That's why the rich bastards wanted him to be their puppet leading pissed off WWI veterans who got screwed out of their promised benefits.

Butler needs to be taught in US History, not ignored by it. His life is a study in dealing with manipulation, corruption of government by corporations and greedy bastards. All of the roots of today's problems.

RVN VET71

(3,175 posts)
36. Received 2 Congressional Medals of Honor and declined a third
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 08:52 PM
Sep 2025

I've always thought that he big shot fascists mistook his courage and discipline as a sign of mental weakness. They must have felt he was a patsy, easily manipulated.

But he pretended to be sucked in by their bullshit and went public with their treasonous plans to destroy America.

Some pols were riled by his testimony and, I'm sure, wanted to act on it. But most -- including FDR -- felt it more prudent to sweep it all under the feeling, I guess, that, after all, Butlers public testimony made the traitors (may they all continue burning in Hell) back off. Personally, I've often felt that public hangings of these rich oligarchic traitors would have had a beneficial effect on the patriotic pride of the American people.

Attilatheblond

(8,660 posts)
37. Yep!
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 09:10 PM
Sep 2025

This is a succinct bio of Butler with info on the corporate giants of the time who wanted him to lead the desperate WWI vets in a revolt against incoming FDR admin. Lots of those name are still around today. Very important read for a view on how the common man in the military was used and tossed out and the men of empire who profited and then wanted to emulate Hitler and Mussolini methods, IOW American fascists.

https://archive.org/details/plottoseizewhite0000arch

RVN VET71

(3,175 posts)
42. I read that a while back, also War is a Racket. Fascinating -- horrifying -- books
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 08:08 AM
Sep 2025

Butler was totally committed to America and to American law and order. A genuine Conservative from back when the word wasn't synonymous with Constitution shredding treason.

Also recently re-read "The Plot Against America", arguably Philip Roth's best novel; and watched the excellent HBO dramatization of it. Also, of course, Sinclair Lewis' "It Can't Happen Here," written in 1935 when Fascism was stretching its wings in Europe.

Two of the books I'd take with me to Yellow Knife -- which is my mythical escape haven for when it all comes crumbling down. Sadly, at 80 I'll have to stick around to see the MAGA marching morons have their fecal way with the land of my birth.

travelingthrulife

(5,030 posts)
44. I think his fear is that he does that and it becomes known, so his son is helping
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 08:30 AM
Sep 2025

to protect him.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
38. Li'l Pervy took his young daughter to a Purity Ball, gave her a ring, & got her to promise to let daddy ...
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 09:22 PM
Sep 2025

…guard and protect her virginity for her, until the day he walked her down the aisle and gave her away.

And if that kind of language and behavior doesn’t make you gag, I don’t know what would.

EYESORE 9001

(29,608 posts)
5. Hostile?
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:12 AM
Sep 2025

Historically, prosecutors are inherently hostile towards defendants of any sort. What makes the people on Epstein’s lists sofa king special?
💰💸💵💶💷💴🤑

augyboston

(379 posts)
6. "Very hostile act" - really??? So was the sexual abuse of minor girls!
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:20 AM
Sep 2025

RELEASE THE BEAUTIFUL EPSTEIN FILES NOW!!!

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!

IbogaProject

(5,785 posts)
20. So come on press
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 07:49 AM
Sep 2025

This warrants "We can assume Trump is guilty based on his actions", if asking for disclosure during fact finding is a hostile act then the only reasonable course is to assume his guilt.

Hey Joe

(555 posts)
31. Nah, not our lazy, subservient press
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:23 AM
Sep 2025

After all, they may lose their precious access to the thug if they actually ask pertinent or fact based questions. Amiright CNN, NBC,CBS, ABC,
Fox,Newsmax, etc…

MadameButterfly

(3,964 posts)
21. This is a threat
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 07:51 AM
Sep 2025

So far Republicans have caved to every threat.
Is it different with the Epstein files?
Will Massie himself hold up?
The threat is likely sufficient to keep the additional 2 he needs from siding with Massie.
Usually they allow a few dissdents as long as it's not enough to pass a vote. Anyone who has real power to pass a bill (like the additional 2 Rs they need) will be threatened with more than a primary.

I got my hopes up that Rs in the House would go for this en mass. But when it's down to a 2-3 critical votes, the risk is too high. I hope I'm wrong. This is our chance if there ever is one.

MLWR

(970 posts)
23. Every accusation is a confession:
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:20 AM
Sep 2025

“Helping Thomas Massie and Liberal Democrats with their attention-seeking, while the DOJ is fully supporting a more comprehensive file release effort from the Oversight Committee, would be viewed as a very hostile act to the administration.”

Trueblue Texan

(4,361 posts)
24. They just released that missing minute in the Epstein video...
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:27 AM
Sep 2025

Nothing to see, but who else was thinking there was someone hidden in the trash can?

paleotn

(22,018 posts)
25. Perhaps some Repukes now see Donnie as a dead end?
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:29 AM
Sep 2025

Actually and figuratively? They’re never about justice for anyone, ever. So that’s not behind this push for release. In addition to their fetish about Dems and Epstein, perhaps they feel this may rid them forever of Donnie’s dying carcass. Just a passing thought.

Martin Eden

(15,525 posts)
27. "DOJ is fully supporting a more comprehensive file release"
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:45 AM
Sep 2025

Yeah, right. Trump wants EVERYTHING released, and simply doesn't want a side effort distracting from his FULL TRANSPARENCY.

Plus, for a limited time only, the Trump administration has a special offer to sell a bridge in Brooklyn.

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