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TRYING to stoke chaos, fear, intimidation, conflict, and confrontation. To TERRORIZE us, by sending this nation's armed forces to WAGE WAR (his words) in American cities.
A "war" Based upon a phony-a** narrative designed (I believe) to build a CASE.
A case for seizing total power via martial law.
'Never-ending disaster!' Trump doubles down on wild 'lawless mayhem' claims in Portland - Rawstory
"As I determined on September 27th, when I activated and called into service the National Guard in Oregon, conditions continue to deteriorate into lawless mayhem," Trump posted Wednesday afternoon on Truth Social. "Our GREAT Federal Law Enforcement Officers have not been able to enforce the Laws in Oregon. ANTIFA and the Radical Left Anarchists have been viciously attacking our Federal Law Enforcement Officers, men and women who are simply doing their job, protecting Federal Property, and enforcing Federal Immigration Laws and the Rule of Law."
State Attorney General Dan Rayfield has filed a lawsuit challenging the deployment, saying (Trump) had misrepresented conditions in the city to justify the deployment.
"We will never allow MOBS to take over our streets, burn our Cities, or destroy America," Trump posted. "The National Guard is now in place, and has been dedicated to restoring LAW AND ORDER, and ending the Chaos, Death, and Destruction! We are a Nation of LAW, and we will PREVAIL...."
johnnyfins
(3,728 posts)The American PEOPLE will prevail. Not your phony, illegitimate Presidency ( 14th Amendment). FUCK YOU.
Volaris
(11,660 posts)And he doesn't have nearly enough cops to pull that off.
Jim__
(15,202 posts)Cha
(318,696 posts)is seeing to that.
We went out across the Nation from Maine to California to Hawaii on June 14th Flag Day and we're going out again on October 18.
misanthrope
(9,477 posts)when he told Gov. Kotek her accounts of Portland were different than the fires and things he was seeing. I don't think he seriously believed what he told her so much as he was playing dumb as a way to lie about it.
He knows that stuff isn't currently ongoing. He is just choosing to act like he believes it as a twisted form of plausible deniability.
CentralMass
(16,963 posts)I think he is conflating the anarchy of that point in time with the present.
misanthrope
(9,477 posts)Among the two known possibilities -- he was lying, or he was demented -- one is far more evidenced than the other. We know as fact that he lies with nearly every breath. We know much less about his cognitive state.
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Cha
(318,696 posts)Always.
B.See
(8,341 posts)he knows Portland isn't "under siege, just as he knows all the other shit that he vomits forth are complete lies and fabrication.
It's a pretext for sending the military to fight HIS WAR on American soil.
And not just against immigrants and "criminals." Against Americans who disagree with HIM.
He's outright TOLD military top brass to be prepared to do exactly THAT.
usonian
(24,958 posts)Make that cauliflower.

Fiendish Thingy
(23,001 posts)They couldnt control LA with 10,000 troops, they arent going to control Portland with 200.
(But I bet the streets will be free of litter!)
Trump is not omnipotent, and the states and people are not powerless.
SamuelTheThird
(1,019 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(23,001 posts)There arent enough troops to disrupt or control elections, even if limited to major cities in blue states.
They may have power, but they will never have total control.
Diraven
(1,877 posts)Is claim there are imaginary Antifa terrorists disrupting the election in a few Democratic stronghold cities in swing states, and then send in enough troops to scare everyone away from voting.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,001 posts)In which cities would Trump be able to scare enough Democrats from voting, leaving only brave Republicans to vote and therefore win the elections?
Portland?
San Francisco?
Chicago?
Boston?
You havent thought this through- this strategy might work in close gubernatorial or senate races, but not for congress, and its the house Trump is most afraid of losing, and the Dems are most likely to win.
Just_Vote_Dem
(3,631 posts)By the way, in the past I was critical of Garland, but I've heard Marcy Wheeler on a few podcasts and I'm understanding better that it was the Supremes and Roberts who were the actual villains there. I wasn't understanding your and Marcy's arguments, now I get them
B.See
(8,341 posts)what can't "possibly happen."
.. in the face of all that HAS happened.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,001 posts)There is a great potential for much chaos, destruction and chicanery, but some things simply arent possible with the existing resources and manpower.
CentralMass
(16,963 posts)democratsruletheday
(1,871 posts)threads like this get under my skin. Ain't happening for the reasons you stated. Enough with the BS fear mongering already. I'm sick and damn tired of it.
B.See
(8,341 posts)Crunchy Frog
(28,255 posts)MrWowWow
(1,461 posts)Once you do, that. Incentivizes trash💩mp to declare Martial Law. All bets are off after that. Hopefully, the 800 flag officers will not support this coup.
FromNY
(32 posts)Don't give any photographers/videographers anything other than National Guard standing around with nothing to do.
Repeat - no provocation...be wary that anyone trying to promote conflict may be an agent for the other side.
ShadesOfBlue
(101 posts)regarding his overall plan. Can we keep this to one or two threads? Discussions about this have been taking place since March.
B.See
(8,341 posts)"Discussions about this have been taking place since March."
FraDon
(543 posts)There are hundreds of operatives and assets awaiting orders from multiple hard-ball players.
Not enough rioting? No problem. We love doing rioting.
gay texan
(3,202 posts)onenote
(46,125 posts)Many times.
How many of those making the prediction actually know what "martial law" is?
Very few, if any.
The Supreme Court long ago explained what martial law is and the limits of its implementation under the Constitution:
Ex parte Milligan, 71 U.S. (4 Wall.) 2 (1866)
"If, in foreign invasion or civil war, the courts are actually closed, and it is impossible to administer criminal justice according to law, then, on the theatre of active military operations, where war really prevails, there is a necessity to furnish a substitute for the civil authority, thus overthrown, to preserve the safety of the army and society; and as no power is left but the military, it is allowed to govern by martial rule until the laws can have their free course. As necessity creates the rule, so it limits its duration; for, if this government is continued after the courts are reinstated, it is a gross usurpation of power.Martial rule can never exist where the courts are open, and in the proper and unobstructed exercise of their jurisdiction. It is also confined to the locality of actual war."
B.See
(8,341 posts)Well okay. Thanks for the clarification. Much appreciated.
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