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Conjuay

(2,906 posts)
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 08:56 AM Oct 2025

I thought this was a very valid point:

Found on Bluesky:

"So if we can just cancel funding / projects that have already been Congressionally approved and appropriated,
What's the point of negotiating?

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I thought this was a very valid point: (Original Post) Conjuay Oct 2025 OP
Many years ago my then rep told me that he was in favor of a bill to give rurallib Oct 2025 #1
Mighty good point. calimary Oct 2025 #5
well.... poozwah Oct 2025 #6
Exactly Rebl2 Oct 2025 #13
LOL even more stupid popsdenver Oct 2025 #19
For that matter - what is the shutdown all about ? dweller Oct 2025 #2
The shut down is a way to fire more federal workers. And terrorize everyone. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #10
But they do that anyway dweller Oct 2025 #12
This was a new opportunity to commit crimes. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #14
And we may ask "what's the point of Congress and Article I?" Redleg Oct 2025 #3
Blue states must withdraw their federal government funding, now! Clouds Passing Oct 2025 #4
But... how? caraher Oct 2025 #8
It doesn't. Payroll taxes are FoxNewsSucks Oct 2025 #17
IDK but they need to figure out a way yesterday. Clouds Passing Oct 2025 #9
Yes popsdenver Oct 2025 #21
They don't need Congress angrychair Oct 2025 #7
Good point RogueRocket Oct 2025 #11
As opposed to what? Cirsium Oct 2025 #20
Short of some miracle popsdenver Oct 2025 #23
Why would you negotiate with a CROOK? BurnDoubt Oct 2025 #15
Very true 👍 TommieMommy Oct 2025 #16
That's autocracy Joinfortmill Oct 2025 #18
never negotiate with terrorists North Coast Lawyer Oct 2025 #22

rurallib

(64,557 posts)
1. Many years ago my then rep told me that he was in favor of a bill to give
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 09:08 AM
Oct 2025

the president a line item veto.
"Well, then what is congress going to do? If the president can just write his own budget, what are you guys going to do?"

Congress's one big power is the purse. If the president can just spend or not spend money as he wants, what is their function?

poozwah

(391 posts)
6. well....
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 09:40 AM
Oct 2025

the republicans view congress as a legitimizing entity used to rubber stamp trump’s authoritarianism. it has become little more than a corrupt money gathering institution which is subservient to the wealthy and only pretends to pay attention to us during election cycles. citizen’s united has destroyed our nation.

Rebl2

(17,417 posts)
13. Exactly
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 10:01 AM
Oct 2025

Republicans are letting him do this, not lifting a finger to stop him. So why bother having congress and senate.

popsdenver

(1,571 posts)
19. LOL even more stupid
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 11:35 AM
Oct 2025

are the Republican U.S. House Members, the U.S. Republican Senators, and the Republican U.S. Supreme Court Justices.......

They are all just as massively delusional as Trump Inc., to think that there is a Judicial Branch, and a Legislative Branch of government in
a Dictatorship/Tyranny.............

dweller

(27,864 posts)
2. For that matter - what is the shutdown all about ?
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 09:37 AM
Oct 2025

The repugs could just agree to funding Medicaid and ACA funding and pass the bill. … and Pisswig could let Vought eliminate it from funding .
Is it all kabuki ?

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dweller

(27,864 posts)
12. But they do that anyway
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 10:00 AM
Oct 2025

From the beginning with doge … and the repugs have always acted as a terrorist organization
Only purpose of the shutdown is to point a finger at Dems while repugs screw everyone


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Redleg

(6,818 posts)
3. And we may ask "what's the point of Congress and Article I?"
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 09:38 AM
Oct 2025

Trump does not negotiate in good faith.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,503 posts)
17. It doesn't. Payroll taxes are
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 11:17 AM
Oct 2025

sent directly to the IRS by employers. I would assume other federal taxes collected by retailers and other businesses are also sent directly to the federal government.

popsdenver

(1,571 posts)
21. Yes
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 11:39 AM
Oct 2025

without all the blue states money, Trump Inc. would have no money to send to the 30+? Red states that receive far more money, than they ever send in to the Feds........

RogueRocket

(20 posts)
11. Good point
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 09:54 AM
Oct 2025

This is a great point and I agree but do we just keep the government closed until Trump agrees to conditions that stop him from doing that?

popsdenver

(1,571 posts)
23. Short of some miracle
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 11:44 AM
Oct 2025

it seems we are destined to either Martial Law, or another Civil War..............Either way is fine with these quasi RepubliCONS.........

BurnDoubt

(1,488 posts)
15. Why would you negotiate with a CROOK?
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 10:25 AM
Oct 2025

Trump has lied and cheated every day of his life.
McConnell STOLE two Supreme Court appointments and destroyed our Government.
They are entirely untrustworthy.

North Coast Lawyer

(225 posts)
22. never negotiate with terrorists
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 11:41 AM
Oct 2025

Not negotiating with terrorists has been America's standard procedure. No reason to deviate from this maxim when dealing with an internal threat.

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