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niyad

(130,652 posts)
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 10:41 AM Nov 2025

The rehabilitation of war criminal dick cheney is in full swing, everywhere.

And frankly, it is nauseating. He spoke out against krasnov??? He helped create the orange monster, let us never forget. One moment of clarity (and, personally, I think it was jealousy that krasnov is a bigger grifter and wannabe tyrant) does NOT make up for a lifetime of evil.

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The rehabilitation of war criminal dick cheney is in full swing, everywhere. (Original Post) niyad Nov 2025 OP
Thank you leftstreet Nov 2025 #1
You are most welcome. niyad Nov 2025 #10
Cheney does not deserve rehabilitation. Ocelot II Nov 2025 #2
No, when you have obits reading "possibly based on faulty assumptions" niyad Nov 2025 #13
Didn't see that! Who said "possibly based on faulty assumptions"? Ocelot II Nov 2025 #25
the cnn politics obit was the first thing I read. nauseating. niyad Nov 2025 #28
No surprise. CNN seems to have gone to the dark side. Ocelot II Nov 2025 #42
He showed his true colors, writ large, to the entire nation Torchlight Nov 2025 #3
Assuming the planet has not been totally destroyed by then. niyad Nov 2025 #6
Time for saint dick? SheltieLover Nov 2025 #4
Canonization in progress. niyad Nov 2025 #7
No fucking doubt. Nauseating. SheltieLover Nov 2025 #12
"de mortuis nil nisi bonum" is one of the stupidest, damaging strictures around. niyad Nov 2025 #14
Not here. I got rid of MSM because of him and the other one. peacebuzzard Nov 2025 #5
Much less stressful that way. niyad Nov 2025 #8
that era is when my high BP started peacebuzzard Nov 2025 #20
Limiting one's exposure to the toxicity does help! niyad Nov 2025 #23
Agree mr715 Nov 2025 #9
Most of them not soon enough. niyad Nov 2025 #21
.... MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #11
Tthe jealousy and the protectiveness can both be operational at the niyad Nov 2025 #15
What do you expect from the billionaire-owned corporate media? Mysterian Nov 2025 #16
Exactly what we are seeing. But I was not referring solely to the media. niyad Nov 2025 #18
The MSM is afraid of offending Schlump for fear of losing access to White House press briefings, among other things. ShazzieB Nov 2025 #50
He shot a guy in the face. Initech Nov 2025 #17
I have never forgotten that one! niyad Nov 2025 #19
He should have died in The Hague Nanjeanne Nov 2025 #22
And he is not the only one. niyad Nov 2025 #24
When someone dies you should say something good. underpants Nov 2025 #26
Exactly! niyad Nov 2025 #34
Steer clear of Morning Joe tomorrow (if you don't already) NCDem47 Nov 2025 #27
I do not have tv, and have despised joescum for years. niyad Nov 2025 #30
It was. Totally. oberle Nov 2025 #53
Or the murder of thousands of people in foreign countries malaise Nov 2025 #29
I do not forget the people of Iraq and Afghanistan, to name but two. niyad Nov 2025 #32
You are so right. Duncanpup Nov 2025 #31
Thank you. niyad Nov 2025 #33
There is pushback. We should all make sure of that. Martin68 Nov 2025 #35
I am doing what I can with my contacts and friends. niyad Nov 2025 #36
Yup, and didn't we see this coming Grim Chieftain Nov 2025 #37
Same with any other Republicans popsdenver Nov 2025 #38
Somebody OKed the assassination of Pat Tillman Kevin Cloyd Nov 2025 #39
I remember. niyad Nov 2025 #55
I guess a Trump-endorsed Kirk-style state funeral won't be happening. Dr. T Nov 2025 #40
:) Solly Mack Nov 2025 #41
The media are tired and bored of talking about the orange turf and the shut down kimbutgar Nov 2025 #43
Wait till the mango musillini dies. spanone Nov 2025 #44
I'm breaking sobriety for that one. Iggo Nov 2025 #59
Too bad he died before he could endorse Cuomo Nanjeanne Nov 2025 #45
Lied about WMD which resulted in the unnecessary deaths of 4,431 US service personnel. surfered Nov 2025 #46
And let us not forget the dead, wounded, displaced Iraqis. And the niyad Nov 2025 #56
He began the GOP mean streak that's now revels in our country's misfortune. pecosbob Nov 2025 #47
The same thing happened with Ronald Reagan. ananda Nov 2025 #48
As we all well know. niyad Nov 2025 #58
Obviously, there is some of that, but surprisingly karynnj Nov 2025 #49
Oh, I read that coverage. I was referring to our complicit media niyad Nov 2025 #60
There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it. Lord Acton Ping Tung Nov 2025 #51
That's what happens choie Nov 2025 #52
Amen. A living devil does not get to become a dead saint. LoisB Nov 2025 #54
EVERYWHERE !!! Iggo Nov 2025 #57

Ocelot II

(129,789 posts)
2. Cheney does not deserve rehabilitation.
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 10:46 AM
Nov 2025

But maybe what looks like rehabilitation is actually just a recognition that by comparison to what we've got now, he only looks very bad instead of spectacularly bad and galactically stupid.

niyad

(130,652 posts)
13. No, when you have obits reading "possibly based on faulty assumptions"
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 11:38 AM
Nov 2025

to describe lying us into the Iraq horror, that is not a "by comparison" downplay, but a basic whitewash.

Ocelot II

(129,789 posts)
25. Didn't see that! Who said "possibly based on faulty assumptions"?
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 12:15 PM
Nov 2025

That's just bullshit. We've known for years that the WMD report was a bald-faced lie.

Torchlight

(6,540 posts)
3. He showed his true colors, writ large, to the entire nation
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 10:49 AM
Nov 2025

His 2025 Rehab Tour will be lauded by sealions, but not many others of good will. He passed without any redemption, an asterisked footnote to poli-sci textbooks in 50 years will be his only legacy.

SheltieLover

(78,496 posts)
12. No fucking doubt. Nauseating.
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 11:37 AM
Nov 2025

Not sure why people rush to try to make a dead person a saint.

He was a fucking evil repuke war criminal.

peacebuzzard

(5,842 posts)
5. Not here. I got rid of MSM because of him and the other one.
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 11:28 AM
Nov 2025

Glad I can’t hear-it.
Oh and the radio? when it’s on, It’s on the College station, primarily classical music and limited news.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,886 posts)
11. ....
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 11:36 AM
Nov 2025
One moment of clarity (and, personally, I think it was jealousy that krasnov is a bigger grifter and wannabe tyrant) does NOT make up for a lifetime of evil.


I agree with most of your post, except for the part above, I think it had to do with Been A Dick Donald and his miserable band of MAGAt's going after his daughter, he was like a mama bear protecting her cub, but you are right, one good deed does not wipe out a lifetime of evill.

niyad

(130,652 posts)
15. Tthe jealousy and the protectiveness can both be operational at the
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 11:44 AM
Nov 2025

same time.

As I was telling a friend earlier, I am not forgiving or generous when it comes to human monsters.

Mysterian

(6,259 posts)
16. What do you expect from the billionaire-owned corporate media?
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 11:46 AM
Nov 2025

The mass media is the enemy of freedom and democracy.

ShazzieB

(22,359 posts)
50. The MSM is afraid of offending Schlump for fear of losing access to White House press briefings, among other things.
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 01:53 PM
Nov 2025

When reporters ask too many questions he doesn't like or write too many unflattering things about him, they can get kicked out of the White House press corps. I think reporters are under a lot of pressure from their employers to avoid doing that.

Unfortunately, reporters have bills to pay just like the rest of us and need to keep their jobs, and most of the major media outlets are either in "don't rock the boat" mode or are owned by billionaire Trump sycophants. It sucks big time.

Grim Chieftain

(1,446 posts)
37. Yup, and didn't we see this coming
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 12:41 PM
Nov 2025

I live in a very red state and drove around for months with a "Bush Lied, Soldiers Died" bumper sticker. Cheney was instrumental in that horrid war. Damn him.

popsdenver

(1,900 posts)
38. Same with any other Republicans
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 12:44 PM
Nov 2025

coming "out"...........Like Liz Cheney.........you put him into power, like Frankenstein's monster, released him on all of us, and now don't know how to control him, OR Steven Miller, and Russel Voght......

Kevin Cloyd

(108 posts)
39. Somebody OKed the assassination of Pat Tillman
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 12:46 PM
Nov 2025

Three American rounds in the forehead and an instant cover-up, including burning his clothes and armor is not random friendly fire.

Did I mention that Tillman was going to come out against the invasion of Iraq and had contacted Noam Chomsky on that subject?

kimbutgar

(27,011 posts)
43. The media are tired and bored of talking about the orange turf and the shut down
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 01:10 PM
Nov 2025

The death of another evil villain is more interesting to report on TV.

surfered

(12,426 posts)
46. Lied about WMD which resulted in the unnecessary deaths of 4,431 US service personnel.
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 01:21 PM
Nov 2025

31,994 wounded, a lot of PTSD, and illnesses associated with toxic burn pits and exposure to our own depleted uranium munitions.

And the lasting damage of lying not only to the public, but also to the men and women who sign up to protect this country from actual threats.

karynnj

(60,835 posts)
49. Obviously, there is some of that, but surprisingly
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 01:50 PM
Nov 2025

there were at least at least some very negative assessments. I heard of his death when it was mentioned on NPR. Shortly after, there was BBC News which was pretty hard on him, especially in a longish segment where an Iraqi spoke of Cheney. Referring to after the fact comments that even knowing everything, it was the right thing to do. Asked if eliminating Saddam was worth it. His answer was very stark - over 1 million dead and the infrastructure decimated - no, it was not worth it.

niyad

(130,652 posts)
60. Oh, I read that coverage. I was referring to our complicit media
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 09:30 PM
Nov 2025

and others who seem to think that FINALLY speaking out against the monster that he helped create somehow earns him points.

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