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Senator Jeanne Shaheen just threw the minority leader under the bus.
Senator Jeanne Shaheen revealed that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer knew the entire time about the plan for a few Democrats to capitulate to Republicans on the government shutdown.
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Senator Chuck Schumer, your leader in the Senate, said I cannot support a continuing resolution that fails to address health care, I am voting no. Did you do this outside leadership, and was there a big push for you not to join the others and break the 60 threshold? Kilmeade asked.
No, we kept leadership informed throughout, Shaheen responded. And I think its important to remember whos responsible for why we got into this shutdown. We are here because we are concerned about the health care costs rising significantly on millions of Americans, and we didnt have any indication before the shutdown started that our Republican colleagues were willing to address it.
Aside from serving as further proof that the Democrats are failing to act as an opposition party in any meaningful way, Shaheens comments also reveal one of two possible scenarios. Either Schumer was scheming to end the shutdown behind the scenes, only pretending to be against it while pinning the blame on the eight people who arent up for reelection anytime soon, or he has no control over his party. Either way, it proves the need for Democrats to jettison the minority leader.
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https://newrepublic.com/post/202942/democrat-caved-shutdown-chuck-schumer-knew-shaheen

This only confirms my suspicions from the start. And the suspicions of many others who post on different message boards, mainly Reddit. The 8 were sacrificial lambs.
Thank you Ro Khanna
Autumn
(48,763 posts)Not tomorrow. NOW.
Ars Longa
(438 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 10, 2025, 06:07 PM - Edit history (1)
This was cooked-up by Leadership from the get-go!
We need decent, honest operating people in Leadership!
dem4decades
(13,711 posts)berksdem
(895 posts)vanessa_ca
(616 posts)iemanja
(57,429 posts)W_HAMILTON
(10,089 posts)There was already reporting on it. This is just another leftwing news outlet trying to sensationalize it by feeding their users more conspiracy theories about what happened.
AZJonnie
(2,839 posts)Thank you
That said, I still favor jettisoning Chuck Schumer.
W_HAMILTON
(10,089 posts)Let Bernie Sanders be minority leader.
He'll either be a great change or certain people will see that he's no savior and either they'll throw flames at him too or maybe finally come to the realization that you can expect only so much from a party you give absolutely no federal power to.
We wouldn't be having ANY of these conversations if Hillary or Kamala had been elected.
AZJonnie
(2,839 posts)They'd never give it to Schiff in part because he's too new in the Senate, but that's who I'd want. Or Liz Warren.
W_HAMILTON
(10,089 posts)ITAL
(1,267 posts)Warren is older than Schumer.
AZJonnie
(2,839 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(17,761 posts)the fallout from this betrayal of the Dem voters by voting no when all along knowing what was going to happen.
Sen. Schumer needs to be replaced, and I don't say this lightly, I have the highest respect for the man, but what happened last night is the straw that broke this camel's back, figuratively speaking.
La Coliniere
(1,760 posts)the Susan Collins Method. Of course he knew the vote was a done deal. He needs to be replaced.
bigtree
(93,396 posts)...what a fucking sham this is.
Eight senators, Dems and independents, broke ranks. Schumer has as much power to stop that as any majority leader has had in this century, which is next to none. The fact that they held out this long is the testament to his leadership, not that these politically fraught members caved.
Pasting that onto Schumer is the height of sophistry, and really just absolute bullshit.
CentralMass
(16,862 posts)radicalleft
(566 posts)and that we should trust Schumer for whatever was happening...
BlueTsunami2018
(4,867 posts)Of course he knew, of course he set the whole thing up.
Do people really still believe in the kabuki theater going on in Washington? Its crazy.
iemanja
(57,429 posts)Claiming Schumer had nothing to do with it.
RockRaven
(18,741 posts)collective performance over the past two months, they have their heads very very far up their own asses.
There seems to be an enormous disconnect between people who spend their days in the Capitol and everyone else, in terms of how legislative votes are viewed. Most voters are not going to listen to any "Now see here, what you need to understand about what we did is..." kind of talk. Voters are scared and angry, to a degree that those in DC seem not to quite grasp.
Pisces
(6,157 posts)MontanaMama
(24,616 posts)Of course Schumer knew. He either orchestrated this and or was aware it was going to happen. Either way, he needs to GO.
Is anyone going to tell me Schumer isnt aware of the rethug efforts to sneak in a national abortion ban into the bill as Senator Ron Wyden is saying? BS. Schumer will sell women out on this effort too.
https://www.finance.senate.gov/ranking-members-news/wyden-slams-gop-health-care-plan
pecosbob
(8,311 posts)ITAL
(1,267 posts)She'll first be up for re-election in the House net year if she chooses to (obviously she will). After that who knows AOC will do. She may try to go for the presidency instead of Schumer's seat.
Nanjeanne
(6,511 posts)johnnyfins
(3,451 posts)Don't fight for anything unless the outright lying, badfaulith merchants on the other side give you a hint that you may win.
Got it.
I forgot that the colonists knew from the start that King George was open to American Independence.
I also forgot that the Confederacy didn't really mean it when they left the union. They were also looking forward to freeing all of their slaves.
Damn, I must have been asleep in history class on the day we learned that the Axis powers really wanted peace.
This strategy was also at play in every labor strike ever in the U.S. Strikes only happen when management tells you you will win.