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riversedge

(79,501 posts)
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 01:36 PM Nov 12

...Trump is calling Mace & Boebert today pleading with them to remove their names from the Epstein petition

Well, this afternoon may be interesting to say the least. ---or maybe not.

Ron Filipkowski‬
‪@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social‬
· 23m
The fact that Trump is calling Mace and Boebert today pleading with them to remove their names from the Epstein petition at the last minute tells you everything you need to know about how incriminating the info in the files is to him and his cronies.


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Ron Filipkowski
@RonFilipkowski
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Trump desperately pressuring Republicans who signed the Epstein petition before Grijalva signs it at 4:10 PM when it will then be too late to stop it.

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...Trump is calling Mace & Boebert today pleading with them to remove their names from the Epstein petition (Original Post) riversedge Nov 12 OP
I wonder what the price leadership is willing to fork over. Torchlight Nov 12 #1
I am certain that both Mace and Boebert have secrets they wish to keep hidden. Irish_Dem Nov 12 #19
Yeah, I don't think the word "pleading" is what is going to happen. hamsterjill Nov 12 #23
Exactly. The correct verb is THREATENING. Irish_Dem Nov 12 #27
We really need brave whistle blowers to get the files out...they will need new identities from witness protection... wcmagumba Nov 12 #2
I predicted weeks ago that Mace would pull her name. rsdsharp Nov 12 #3
It would be completely hypocritical of Mace to back down. Renew Deal Nov 12 #4
Check their bank accounts! Chasstev365 Nov 12 #7
Bwaaaah malaise Nov 12 #5
No. What was it? Ocelot II Nov 12 #6
From -18.20 malaise Nov 12 #10
My fav altered pic of Karoline. area51 Nov 12 #31
Love it 😀 malaise Nov 12 #33
For the love of God: will someone just leak the Epstein Files already? Chasstev365 Nov 12 #8
We could use an Assange or Snowden or Manning round about now. TheRickles Nov 12 #13
That would really be a surprise... kentuck Nov 12 #9
I expect if it comes to it he will threaten their lives. BannonsLiver Nov 12 #14
I would bet he already has rurallib Nov 12 #17
If, just what if, they refuse to change their minds? GusBob Nov 12 #15
Both Mace and Boebert are very weak and not very bright. Irish_Dem Nov 12 #20
If the price is right they will fold like lawn chairs. Irish_Dem Nov 12 #28
I've been expecting this. Bozvotros Nov 12 #11
I figure the fix was in. doc03 Nov 12 #12
With all the time in the world, Mblaze Nov 12 #16
If the Epstein Files exonerated him, Trump would be threatening to primary the two if they didn't release the files surfered Nov 12 #18
I would not be surprised if one or the other caves. Trump is very powerful, and can provide financial incentives and/or Fil1957 Nov 12 #21
He can team them up with some of his shadowy "republican mega-donors." NBachers Nov 12 #22
They only have about an hour left to remove their signature(s) Wiz Imp Nov 12 #24
I don't believe either will remove their signatures at this point, however, even if one did Wiz Imp Nov 12 #25
Pleading or Traildogbob Nov 12 #26
My $1 bet is on... WestMichRad Nov 12 #29
He could make Mikey expel either Mace, MTG or Boebert on the grounds of mental instability and moral turpitude. Marcuse Nov 12 #30
Yes and that would almost guarantee that Jefferies becomes speaker in January karynnj Nov 12 #34
Kick dalton99a Nov 12 #32
Seriously you guys thought we wouldn't get fitzmased ? mucifer Nov 12 #35
K&R BlueWavePsych Nov 13 #36
There are some interesting dynamics to this, but one of them is Jbraybarten Nov 13 #37
"pleading?" garybeck Nov 13 #38

Torchlight

(6,321 posts)
1. I wonder what the price leadership is willing to fork over.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 01:39 PM
Nov 12

Or what the leverage is against the two.

Or (most likely) a little of both.

hamsterjill

(17,059 posts)
23. Yeah, I don't think the word "pleading" is what is going to happen.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 03:00 PM
Nov 12

Trump is going to be threatening them; not pleading with them.

wcmagumba

(5,661 posts)
2. We really need brave whistle blowers to get the files out...they will need new identities from witness protection...
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 01:40 PM
Nov 12

rsdsharp

(11,798 posts)
3. I predicted weeks ago that Mace would pull her name.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 01:44 PM
Nov 12

It sounds like Trump thinks she’s a prime candidate, too.

Renew Deal

(84,709 posts)
4. It would be completely hypocritical of Mace to back down.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 01:45 PM
Nov 12

But she is a loose cannon either way.

kentuck

(115,122 posts)
9. That would really be a surprise...
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:02 PM
Nov 12

...if they said "No" to Trump. They will break under pressure, I would guess.

GusBob

(8,136 posts)
15. If, just what if, they refuse to change their minds?
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:31 PM
Nov 12

But if they did, would they then take the rap for the cover-up?

They shoulda kept this arm twisting stuff private

Irish_Dem

(79,917 posts)
20. Both Mace and Boebert are very weak and not very bright.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:45 PM
Nov 12

They can easily be kissed or kicked into compliance.

Bozvotros

(951 posts)
11. I've been expecting this.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:13 PM
Nov 12

Boebert and Mace have been softened up to fold already. Today they're just going to hear the specifics of "or else."

Mblaze

(925 posts)
16. With all the time in the world,
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:36 PM
Nov 12

Republicans will never come up with a better program than the ACA. The only real answer is Single-Payer and they seem to be "over my dead body" about that.

surfered

(11,616 posts)
18. If the Epstein Files exonerated him, Trump would be threatening to primary the two if they didn't release the files
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:42 PM
Nov 12

Fil1957

(547 posts)
21. I would not be surprised if one or the other caves. Trump is very powerful, and can provide financial incentives and/or
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:50 PM
Nov 12

serious threats. "Silver or lead" as the saying goes. However, he has been weakened by recent events, and the chances of them holding firm are better today than they were a few months ago.

Wiz Imp

(9,020 posts)
24. They only have about an hour left to remove their signature(s)
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 03:16 PM
Nov 12

As soon as the petition receives 218 signature, it is officially entered into the record and members can no longer remove their signature.

Grijalva is set to be sworn in around 4:00 pm and as soon as that happens, my understanding is she will immediately sign the petition.

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R45920

Members may add or remove their names until a petition has obtained 218 signatures. If a discharge petition reaches this threshold—a majority of the House's 435 Members—the list of names is frozen, printed in the Congressional Record, and the discharge motion is entered in the House Journal and in the "Calendar of Motions to Discharge Committees" section of the House Calendar. Once on the Calendar, an additional seven legislative days must elapse before a Member who signed the petition may notify the House in a floor statement of an intention to offer the discharge motion on the floor. The motion may then be called up by that Member "at a time or place, designated by the Speaker, in the legislative schedule within two legislative days after the day on which a Member whose signature appears thereon announces to the House an intention to offer the motion."5 A discharge motion is not in order, however, during the last six days of a congressional session.

Wiz Imp

(9,020 posts)
25. I don't believe either will remove their signatures at this point, however, even if one did
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 03:24 PM
Nov 12

there will be another Democrat elected to the House via a Special Election Runoff in Texas in January (both candidates in the runoff are Democrats). There is also a Special Election in December in Tennessee which is likely to be won by the Republican, but there is at least an extremely slight but nonzero chance for the Democrat to win.

Traildogbob

(12,561 posts)
26. Pleading or
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 03:28 PM
Nov 12

Threatening their lives. I suspect door number 2.
Cave or the hounds of hell will rip you and your families into hamberder meat.

WestMichRad

(2,939 posts)
29. My $1 bet is on...
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 03:32 PM
Nov 12

… some Repuke to cave and pull their name from the petition, before the House had to vote on it.

Marcuse

(8,812 posts)
30. He could make Mikey expel either Mace, MTG or Boebert on the grounds of mental instability and moral turpitude.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 03:55 PM
Nov 12

Resulting in a 217-217 tie. The cover up is complete.

My money is on MTG because she’s been a pain in his bountiful butt over the shutdown, the Georgia Senate race and Epstein. Plus she didn’t get a pleading presidential call.

karynnj

(60,791 posts)
34. Yes and that would almost guarantee that Jefferies becomes speaker in January
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 05:07 PM
Nov 12

In addition to a possible court case, it would take months to replace them. Right now there are 219 Republicans and 214 Democrats with 2 vacant seats. There would then be 217 Republicans to our 214 if they were expelled. One of the vacant seats is a run off in January between 2 Democrats, the other is the TN seat where Republicans are favored.

So, until elections to replace these two, on any piece of legislation, he could lose at most ONE representative and if, in a miracle, we win TN, he can't lose any with 217 R to 216 D. Not to mention, given their dysfunction, could we get one Republican to become independent and caucus with us?

Jbraybarten

(180 posts)
37. There are some interesting dynamics to this, but one of them is
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 11:48 AM
Nov 13

several Rs are invested in this and it's not really simple to just say no now, even by their shameless standards.

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