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MineralMan

(150,609 posts) Sat Dec 6, 2025, 02:32 PM Dec 6

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The Real Reason for ICE Masks and Anonymity

It's not about the fear of being doxxed and threatened at all. That's what they say, but that's not even close.

The masks and hidden identities and nametags are deliberate. Designed so those ICE agents can get away with violating the human and constitutional rights of those they grab, detain, deport, and otherwise disappear.

Nobody, and I mean nobody knows who those individual ICE agents are, other than themselves and maybe their buddies. If someone's rights are violated, or if they are injured or even killed, nobody will be able to identify the individual ICE agents who did the violations or harm. There are no records of who was there on a particular actions, I suspect, so there's nobody who can be charged for such violations of the law.

The anonymity of ICE agents is a feature, not a flaw.

We don't know who they are. We don't know how they were selected. We don't know how they were trained. We don't know anything about them. They are anonymous and unidentifiable. They can't be held to account, because they cannot be identified. It's sort of a perfect disguise for people who want or are ordered to break the laws through their actions.

I don't see any move to change any of this. We don't know how much they are paid. We don't know much of anything about those men who are mobbing people where they live, work, go to school or walk down the street. They can't be identified, so we can't hold them to account for any crimes they commit.

This is a very, very dangerous problem, for which I find no ready solution.

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The Real Reason for ICE Masks and Anonymity (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 6 OP

That's a deeper dive than most, Congress should be looking into this bucolic_frolic Dec 6 #1

Dream on, BF..........NC popsdenver Dec 6 #19

The reason they come hard at any members of congress is to make THEM afraid so they don't come see what's happening Attilatheblond Dec 6 #35

Kidnapping, human trafficking, (grand) theft, a bunch of other crimes sakabatou Dec 6 #2

Well said, my dear MineralMan! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 6 #3

SSN's and payroll records. We arrest and charge them all and watch the rats jump off the ship ms liberty Dec 6 #4

we'll never see that rampartd Dec 6 #6

That will never happen popsdenver Dec 6 #20

Chain of custody dickthegrouch Dec 6 #28

I don't think many of theses "arrests" end up... Shipwack Dec 6 #34

These monsters have disappeared folks Billsdaughter Dec 6 #43

My thinking as well. Tax returns, Credit, financing, etc Billsdaughter Dec 6 #41

Exactly HarryM Dec 7 #58

Kicked. Great post MM ... you are absolutely right. KPN Dec 6 #5

I've asked this before (because i do not understand exactly how congress works) I feel you are more in tuned to how bluestarone Dec 6 #7

Well, Nuremberg trials did not go after the "rank & file" Nazis and SS... They went after those who hlthe2b Dec 6 #8

This was pretty obvious from the get-go GenThePerservering Dec 6 #9

Seems obvious, doesn't it. But I'm not seeing any discussion of this MineralMan Dec 6 #10

So, If one of "Them" Were to, Say, Die on the Job, Would We Be Talking About Another The Roux Comes First Dec 6 #11

Groups of locals have run ICE cops off several times. MineralMan Dec 6 #12

That Was a Big Part of My Point. Confronted With Possible Exposure and Actual Investigation The Roux Comes First Dec 6 #33

J6ers Deep State Witch Dec 6 #13

NRA is nowhere to be found on resisting government tyranny IronLionZion Dec 6 #14

The NRA was totally complicit popsdenver Dec 6 #23

I'm told there is a $50,000 signing bonus Richluu Dec 6 #15

$200? MadameButterfly Dec 6 #36

You may be right Richluu Dec 6 #42

Reduced to 47 days of training Geuricol Dec 6 #16

I propose another reason: Being masked and weaponized and violent is to promote terror erronis Dec 6 #17

Kinda like description of a modern day Ku Klux Klan ....... just asking ? Bigerhalf Dec 6 #18

My thought as well - masks instead of hoods Jersey Devil Dec 7 #59

Something else you may want to consider jmowreader Dec 6 #21

Good point. calimary Dec 6 #39

I am going to go out on a limb here maxrandb Dec 6 #22

Sure, cause they learned from J6 that we could identify the bastards. txwhitedove Dec 6 #24

MinMan - Exactly right and there has been no mention of this travesty on the media. FadedMullet Dec 6 #25

The solution I support is relatively simple AZProgressive Dec 6 #26

Whoever hired them and whoever pays them knows and has records of who they are. Sogo Dec 6 #27

They may not even be ICE, just vigilantes. nt doc03 Dec 6 #29

Loaners from Erik Prince, probably. Captain Zero Dec 7 #49

Are they always male? Nt Hope22 Dec 6 #30

Vids I've seen have shown some women in the gear duckworth969 Dec 6 #40

It's because the boss makes them get gnoem face surgery cynical_idealist Dec 6 #31

I always suspected that was a least part of it. ShazzieB Dec 6 #32

If they are getting bonuses for each person arrested, Ilsa Dec 6 #37

ICE hires thugs and criminals Alice Kramden Dec 6 #38

Spot on again MM KS Toronado Dec 6 #44

Supposedly, Congress has oversight authority, and any member Qutzupalotl Dec 7 #45

I wonder if there's some small tagging system that could be set up to identify them. summer_in_TX Dec 7 #46

It is also psychological misanthrope Dec 7 #47

Some politicians have pointed out... Xolodno Dec 7 #48

KNR niyad Dec 7 #50

I thought this was already understood. pandr32 Dec 7 #51

I'm sure it is - by some. MineralMan Dec 7 #53

I didn't mean to come off as insulting. pandr32 Dec 7 #57

So they can appear and act as a non-human or humanoid. Detachment. Clouds Passing Dec 7 #52

Criminals wear masks... dlk Dec 7 #54

Agree, but i would add just one word in front of criminals. that word is bluestarone Dec 7 #55

When the regime falls JustAnotherGen Dec 7 #56

When Dems in Power, Audit ICE for thr $3,00O bounties pioche4 Dec 7 #60

ICE Agents gfarber Dec 7 #61

The obvious answer is that they are cowards randr Dec 7 #62

Any govt agent; city state or fed, should be required to be identifiable. BY LAW Callie1979 Dec 7 #63

How can this admin complain about being called johnnyfins Dec 7 #64

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1. That's a deeper dive than most, Congress should be looking into this