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rsdsharp

(11,789 posts)
2. He looked worse when he grabbed the "medal" off the tray,
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 03:33 PM
Dec 6

and hung it around his own neck before they could go through the presentation ceremony.

GIMME GIMME GIMME!

eppur_se_muova

(40,951 posts)
5. OMG, he did that ??? Just like Napoleon took his imperial tiara from the Pope's hands and crowned himself ?
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 04:05 PM
Dec 6

I've been reading a biography of Napoleon, and been learning for the first time what a truly horrible despot he was -- his boundless narcissism was well recorded by history, but Trmp seems to be matching him in that regard.

(BTW, don't blame Pius VII for giving in to pressure to crown NB Emperor -- Pius VI's death in one of Napoleon's prisons was all the persuasion it took. It didn't keep Pius VII out of jail forever, either. Like I said -- a truly horrible despot.)

soldierant

(9,281 posts)
9. In case it gives you any small satisfaction,
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 06:39 PM
Dec 6

Napoleon also threw up a lot. He war dumber than the Orange Oligarch about eating. There's a YouTube channel called "Tasting History" which I find fascinating for many reasons, He reconstructs, cooks, and tastes recipes for historical foods. and throws in complementary cultural information. Look for the video on "Chicken Marengo" and check it out if you want to know just how bad his digestion was. I'm not saying this as an excuse - there is no excuse - but you might take some comfort for his horribleness in the way he suffered.

eppur_se_muova

(40,951 posts)
10. He suffered from epileptic attacks, which were well hidden from all but his most trusted inner circle.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 08:16 PM
Dec 6

I suspect that was connected to the vomiting.

From what I've been reading, Napoleon was a lot like Hitler -- very convinced of his own greatness, but making huge blunders especially re. logistics and supply, with occasional brilliant victories which owed something to luck and capable officers -- against the British, with their more rigorously trained officers, he consistently came up short. Even if the allies hadn't defeated him, the French people were getting pretty sick of his constant "appetite for war", with his constant calls for conscripts to replace the ones lost in his previous campaigns. I've just reached the point where his disastrous campaigns in Iberia caused the age for conscription to drop to sixteen. He had lost two entire armies by that point and was grinding away at what was left of the current army -- and we haven't even gotten to the invasion of Russia yet. All in all, a pretty horrible "leader". But he's still remembered favorably by some. He did introduce the new French Code of Law, but also introduced an omnipresent secret police force, suppression of most newspapers, and imprisonment of his critics -- which went so far as execution in some cases. On balance, I'd say France (and Europe) would have been much better off without him.

soldierant

(9,281 posts)
14. You are probably right about the connection.
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 08:37 PM
Dec 7

The digestive issues were also hidden.

But his nutrition was virtually non-existent. You've heard of "meat and potatoes" men. Well, Napoleon wouldn't even eat the potatoes. I doubt that caused the vomiting - but it also couldn't have helped.

calimary

(89,028 posts)
7. I saw that. SOOOOOOOO incredibly cheesy!
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 05:49 PM
Dec 6

It looked like what it seems to be:
“HEY YOU IDIOTS! See this? I just got a new MEDAL, and you didn’t! I think I’ll wear it around all day, just because I know that’ll annoy you! It’s GOOD to be the king!”

I can’t wait til he’s OUT of OUR Oval Office, for good!!!

Coldwater

(921 posts)
3. Next
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 03:35 PM
Dec 6

The Ronald McDonald Clown of the Year Award,
The Social Media Stalker Award,
The "Not My Department" Award,
The "It's 9:00 AM Somewhere" Award

The “I molested The Wendy’s Girl Award” handed out each year until 2019 by Jeffrey Epstein. (but will graciously accept the 2025 Award from Ghislaine Maxwell upon her pardon and subsequent release from the Federal Penitentiary)

The "Adolf Hitler Award” trying to outdo Hitler who received 29 awards while the leader of the Nazi party which included Time Man of the Year Award in 1938, and a 1939 nomination to win the Nobel Peace Prize in 1939 (naturally he didn’t win)

calimary

(89,028 posts)
12. I've seen that photo before.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 11:35 PM
Dec 6

From a little farther back. I think that’s his oldest daughter.

Coldwater

(921 posts)
13. Yes, it is his daughter
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 01:12 AM
Dec 7

the same daughter he claims he would like to screw, if she wasn't his daughter.

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