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angrychair

(11,663 posts)
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 04:32 PM Dec 6

The least of these

I don't think this angle has been touched on at all or at the very least, not enough.

I am sure that us here at DU can universally agree that the "war of drugs" campaign started in the 80s was an absolute bust, completely ineffective and a unequivocal money pit.

Yet, here we are again.

I cannot imagine the death, pain, suffering and money we have sowed in the waters off the coast of South America at this point but I imagine it's a lot.
We have spent tens of millions of dollars to murder innocent people and I can't stop thinking about how this is the most American and Republican thing we could possibly do.

Americans are legendary around the world for shooting first, using wanton violence with no regard to the costs involved, and asking questions later.

That is exactly what we are doing here

We are likely spending millions of dollars a week on these operations and if you are not stopping to think about more effective ways we could have used that money and effort to actually address the root causes of drug addiction and the proliferation of drugs in poor communities, then maybe we should be thinking that way.
We have likely spent more on these operations to murder innocent people off the coast of South America over the last several weeks then we have spent on domestic drug treatment programs in multiple years combined.

The only conclusion is that it's not about stemming the tide of drugs into the US as much as it is a show of force and to simulate that the government is doing something about the proliferation of drugs in the US. Nothing more complicated than that.

In case the last 60 years has not made it clear enough: shooting your way out of a drug problem is about as effective use of resources as building a house out of mashed potatoes.

You will never stem the flow of drugs unless and until you address the root causes of drug addiction in the US.
The known driving factors of people resorting to abusive and chronic drug use is poverty, lack of opportunity, hopelessness and mental health issues. If you do not address these issues, at a community level, you will always be on the losing side of your "war on drugs".

Let me be clear, if you are a Democrat running for public office and this isn't your position then you should have to answer as to why it's not your opinion. We have serious problems and the time of lobbyists and half ass, centrist solutions is over. We need people in office that actually want to solve problems.








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The least of these (Original Post) angrychair Dec 6 OP
They key is just to have the word "War" in any announcement, EO, legislation, etc. erronis Dec 6 #1
Instead of having a "war on drugs"..... anciano Dec 6 #2
Agreed angrychair Dec 6 #3
Another point angrychair Dec 6 #4
Treat it like what it is...a medical/psychiatric problem... Wounded Bear Dec 6 #5
Attacks on those boats have nothing whatsoever to do with drugs Martin Eden Dec 6 #6
Yes. LoisB Dec 6 #7

erronis

(22,640 posts)
1. They key is just to have the word "War" in any announcement, EO, legislation, etc.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 04:37 PM
Dec 6

War On Terror
War On Drugs
War On Gangs
War On Non-Whites
War On Non-Xians

Nothing gets the little hearts of the small-brained people more excited that having a nice little War. Not that they will put themselves at the front lines.

angrychair

(11,663 posts)
3. Agreed
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 05:05 PM
Dec 6

It has been wildly successful in multiple countries that have been, in some cases, doing so for decades along side formal operations to assist and give them things like access to needles and other materials to slow the spread of diseases like AIDS and other blood pathogens.

angrychair

(11,663 posts)
4. Another point
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 05:09 PM
Dec 6

Anyone that says "we can't help people do drugs" I would refer them to the government controlled sale of cigarettes and alcohol for decades and by any definition they are "drugs".

Martin Eden

(15,358 posts)
6. Attacks on those boats have nothing whatsoever to do with drugs
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 06:27 PM
Dec 6

Those small open boats are entirely unsuited for ocean travel all the way from Venezuela to the US coast.

This is all about manufacturing a conflict with Venezuela -- for regime change, and for access to huge oil reserves.

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