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applegrove

(130,212 posts)
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 02:06 PM Dec 7

Europe may start downing Russian drones and jets that provoke.

⚡️ Czech president says Europe may start downing Russian drones or aircraft in response to provocations

Ukrainska Pravda 🇺🇦 (@pravda.ua) 2025-12-07T12:45:40.830Z
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Europe may start downing Russian drones and jets that provoke. (Original Post) applegrove Dec 7 OP
Wish they would stop being wishy washy and just say "will". Bev54 Dec 7 #1
Sad to do but if they dont Russia will move in. Srkdqltr Dec 7 #2
Just fucking start doing it, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 7 #3
'Bout damn time. Nt Fiendish Thingy Dec 7 #4
Europe must hang together or they will hang separately. surfered Dec 7 #5
May ? Nigrum Cattus Dec 7 #6
They should shoot down every drone that crosses the border NickB79 Dec 7 #7
Just do it. Deuxcents Dec 7 #8
Russkies are coming for all of them duckworth969 Dec 7 #9
They need to just do it. Happy Hoosier Dec 7 #10
Which side would trump join, if Putin starts WWIII? Bayard Dec 7 #11
I think we all know the answer to your question superpatriotman Dec 7 #13
Just do it.... Look at what they do, less on what they say,..nt mitch96 Dec 7 #12
I agree, just do it. Emile Dec 7 #14
Maybe they haven't ...because they can't. Melon Dec 7 #15

Bev54

(13,194 posts)
1. Wish they would stop being wishy washy and just say "will".
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 02:09 PM
Dec 7

Time to stop all this diplomatic BS and stop them.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,646 posts)
3. Just fucking start doing it,
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 02:09 PM
Dec 7

maybe Putin will get the message that Europe isn't going to knuckle under, despite Flim Flam Man aligning with Russia.

I can't hardly wait for 2026 and 2028 when we finally get the adults back in power and send this illegal regime into the shitter of history.

NickB79

(20,241 posts)
7. They should shoot down every drone that crosses the border
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 03:33 PM
Dec 7

They should have been for a couple years now.

Manned aircraft, not so much. Dead Russian pilots make great martyrs for Putin. Destroyed drones, not so much.

duckworth969

(1,171 posts)
9. Russkies are coming for all of them
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 03:48 PM
Dec 7

Europe knows this.

But they're willing to let the Ukrainians die to keep their leaders in office and protect their treasuries.

If Ukraine signs any "peace deal", the Russkies will be back with a million more soldiers and improved weaponry .

I agree that the Russkies can't be completely defeated. But they can have their minds changed in no uncertain terms.

Putin needs to die or be jailed, that's the only way to stop this version of Russia in its tracks.

Bayard

(28,531 posts)
11. Which side would trump join, if Putin starts WWIII?
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 04:55 PM
Dec 7

He keeps testing and poking other countries. I wonder what trump promised him in that Alaska meeting? Russia's budget and military are already exhausted.

superpatriotman

(6,805 posts)
13. I think we all know the answer to your question
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 05:31 PM
Dec 7

We would end up on the wrong side of history and become more of a pariah to our “allies”

Melon

(1,074 posts)
15. Maybe they haven't ...because they can't.
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 05:40 PM
Dec 7

Every time a drone is close to a border, and the radars are locked in, the Russians gain intelligence. That’s a chief reason why they do it. They are identifying gaps.

The intelligence given from actual retaliation could be much higher than the moral feelings of having shot down a low value drone. God forbid the EU unsuccessfully try’s downing drones, and weaken their own country’s security concerns. Just a counter point to consider.

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