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even though i still would want you know who gone, do we really want vance who is worse .? (Original Post) AllaN01Bear Dec 2025 OP
Catch 22 SuzyandPuffpuff Dec 2025 #1
Shady McMaybelline Jilly_in_VA Dec 2025 #2
Totally agree. Dave Bowman Dec 2025 #5
Vance is awful, but I doubt he will be able to hold the MAGA cult together. Ocelot II Dec 2025 #3
We have 2 bad options MustLoveBeagles Dec 2025 #4
Agree with everyone else Freddie Dec 2025 #6
Well the RWers are preparing him.................. Lovie777 Dec 2025 #7
Vance isn't worse. mr715 Dec 2025 #8
One step at a time. Sneederbunk Dec 2025 #9
I don't think Vance will be as effective because he doesn't have tbe following trump has. electric_blue68 Dec 2025 #10

SuzyandPuffpuff

(508 posts)
1. Catch 22
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 05:46 PM
Dec 2025

I just want 47 and his fetid cast and crew to pay the price we've had to endure for the last fucking decade

Jilly_in_VA

(14,286 posts)
2. Shady McMaybelline
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 05:46 PM
Dec 2025

doesn't have a cult following. Without him, I think MAGA will fall apart. Nobody likes him at all and I don't think he can get Congress to work with him, not even the RepubliKKKans. Without Shitler, I think the coalition, such as it is, will all apart. It's already cracking.

Ocelot II

(130,264 posts)
3. Vance is awful, but I doubt he will be able to hold the MAGA cult together.
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 05:47 PM
Dec 2025

Nobody seems to like him much, and it's likely that once President Piggy is gone (the sooner the better), the GOP will turn into something like a jar full of scorpions, with ambitious politicians trying to take Vance's presumed 2028 nomination away from him.

MustLoveBeagles

(15,982 posts)
4. We have 2 bad options
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 05:51 PM
Dec 2025

It can be argued that JD can't necessarily rely on Maga support like trump can. I agree with you that he's not any better.


Freddie

(10,095 posts)
6. Agree with everyone else
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 05:55 PM
Dec 2025

He doesn’t have the devoted fan base. He’ll be the 21st century Gerald Ford. Except Ford was probably the last pretty decent Republican president.

Lovie777

(22,793 posts)
7. Well the RWers are preparing him..................
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 05:56 PM
Dec 2025

although he might have give up his present wife and date a blonde, wink wink.

mr715

(3,443 posts)
8. Vance isn't worse.
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 06:13 PM
Dec 2025

Vance is an opportunist and without character, no doubt. But he doesn't have the sorcery that Trump does.

electric_blue68

(26,777 posts)
10. I don't think Vance will be as effective because he doesn't have tbe following trump has.
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 09:23 PM
Dec 2025

Thank goodness!

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