The primary isn’t until June, and the filing deadline for candidates isn’t until April.

It’s waay too early for a coronation in a race that has more than two candidates.

Maine can do better than Mills

Mills may be better than Platner on issues of reproductive rights, but even if a bill codifying Roe is passed and signed by a Dem president, the current SCOTUS could simply overturn that law.

That’s why the filibuster must die and the court must be expanded.

Serious signs of questionable judgement and possibly untreated serious mental health issues.

When people say they remind them of Fetterman, this is what they are worried about.

I’m talking about finding a better, scandal free candidate who is willing to kill the filibuster and expand the court, otherwise, once Dems get the trifecta again in 2029, there no chance in hell they will pass anything but a watered down reconciliation bill, with absolutely no chance of neutralizing the MAGA majority on the court and repairing the damage of the Trump era.

I will be cheering for the one that supports the filibuster over a man that in his own words blamed victims of sexual assault that alone would make them unacceptable and disqualifying.

The state Dem party should be doing some aggressive recruiting right this minute.

And the filibuster-ending is a double-edged sword, and it's not happening anyhow.

We don't need another wack-job like Fetterman or Gallego
https://www.advocate.com/politics/ruben-gallego-mocks-democrats

And I dispute your certainty that Dems won’t get a majority for expansion.

If they don’t by 2029, then they will continue to be perceived as ineffective in governing the nation, and will lose more presidential elections to republican lunatics.

happened in 2024.

Aren’t you Canadian?

Emotional stability tops ideological interests almost every time.

And the filibuster-ending is a double-edged sword, and it's not happening anyhow.

We don't need another wack-job like Fetterman or Gallego
https://www.advocate.com/politics/ruben-gallego-mocks-democrats

too centrist/moderate for my taste (for example, she is pro filibuster, she is anti-decriminalisation for small personal use amounts of drugs, is anti red-flag laws for guns, she has vetoed collective bargaining rights, wealth taxes, protections for renters, and tribal sovereignty laws, etc).

Platner simply has far too much baggage for me. Very problematic that he was not vetted better.

I so wish the people of Maine (and by extension all Democrats nationwide) had a better viable third Democratic candidate option to chose over those two.

Mills - At the age when people start mentally deteriorating. Corporate, establishment Dem
Platner - No experience, has said and done questionable things in the past

Wasn't there a third candidate?

I think ME 2.

Thanks!

Gov Janet Mills is getting my Donation!

She will be 78 when (assuming she wins) she is sworn in for a six-year term. The actuarial tables are undefeated.

Find someone else.

The people who continually re-elect Collins are NOT very likely to suddenly choose some newbie from the far end of the political horseshoe. It's clear that Mills will not be a multi-term Senator... but she will be a DEMOCRATIC senator and we can finally kick that awful Collins out on her butt.

And as I'm sure you're aware, it's very difficult to defeat an incumbent... especially for some newcomer... especially in Maine. Let's work on winning rather than worrying about the actuary tables and other stealthy ageist comments.

I am dealing with reality, and the continuing failures of that generation of Dems. The upcoming generation has been ill-served by the establishment. How's Chuck Schumer working for us? Regrettably, Diane Feinstein was being 'Weekend at Bernie'd' towards her end as well. I will also add that THREE house Dems have died since January. Had people gotten out of the way, the Epstein files would probably have been out long before they were.

Do you want to win, or do you want to tone police and purity test?

If it is either, THAT is why we lose.

Good luck

Pretending that the Democrats in Maine are the same as the Democrats in Vermont is why we lose. A win right now is more important that risking a loss for the sake of "youth" and purity... or out of the paranoid fear that Mills might someday die.

Oh, and... ahem... "welcome to DU" (I didn't see you before, but now I do. I apologize for being tardy with my welcome!) 😆😉

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I'll get over to the Lounge at some point.

I never claimed that Maine and Vermont are the same thing. I live in NC so I know that a Southern Dem is very different from a Northern one.

I also cannot agree with your characterization of Mills kicking the bucket as a 'paranoid fear'. The actuarial tables are a real thing, for reasons I have already laid out. The danger is very, Very, VERY real. Feinstein was in terrible shape, and we put a 74 year old guy with cancer as the House Oversight ranking member. And he kicked the bucket. Absurd strategy.

The 'winning right now' strategy is also a bad take. The GOP played the long game and kicked the shit out of us by taking things over at the state level, and grooming young wingnuts there. And those people are now in the Hose and Senate (don't get me started on Federalist Society trash infecting the judiciary).

is 81 and Sen Sanders is 84.

Worth noting.

It changes nothing that I said. Also keep in mind that King was one of those who blew up the shutdown.

with Dems and Sanders is 84.

At this point it seems, rather deliberately. Do you think these people are going to be around forever? We would do well to start planning for this, because continuing to ignore this HUGE problem is self-defeating in the extreme. Neither one of the states they represent are like KY or MS.

I say this as someone who voted for Sanders in the 2016 primary.

making this personal.

Freshman senators don't have the same clout as returners. The senate rules give a lot of weight to seniority. So booting Collins, a very senior senator, in favor of a likely 1-and-done senator leaves Maine lagging in influence for at least 12 years.

It really would be to the benefit of the state, the Democratic party, and the nation to find other younger candidates for the upcoming primaries.

a sentiment among voters along the lines of "We wish he would retire BUT we're not going to kick him out of office". Does anyone think Dianne Feinstein would have been elected to the US Senate in either 2012 or 2018 if she was a non-incumbent seeking her first term instead of the incumbent seeking her fourth and fifth terms? Anyone think Chuck Grassley would have won his last couple of primaries if he wasn't the incumbent?

84.

But I understand why. A man who claims to be "progressive" runs around like crazy trying to delete previous statements that mocked violence toward women. Janet is indeed 77. She is also completely compos mentis, and has laudable public service behind her. I have seen posts saying Platner was endorsed by Bernie Sanders, and is thus the better candidate, especially since Janet must be "too old." Sanders was 83, and not "too old" when he ran for (and won) his latest term in the Senate, but Janet is too old at 77?

I don't always agree with Emily's List, but in this case we are 100% in synch. Getting "someone else" at this point only makes sense if Janet has a stroke, or some such medical issue. Barring that, I'm all for her going for (and, most likely, winning) this seat for us.

In less than three weeks, I'll be at a gathering where I've met with Janet for several years in a row now. It's all off the record, but, assuming she's there again this year, if I get the impression that she is slipping, I'll say so. However, if I get the impression that she is as solid as ever, I'll say that, too.

and even if we ignore the obvious benefits qualification and having a practical strategy, I'm always (and continually) befuddled by the support that Platner receives among those who would otherwise know better, except that this knowledge is clouded by an irrational hate or contempt for Mills, based presumably (if not blatantly) on her age and the fact that she has broad centrist appeal, and an unreasonable demand for absolute purity. It's a fantasy to believe that the voters of Maine are anything other than what they are and who they are. After all, they keep electing Collins and for the most part, they seem to be quite content with their choice. It makes no sense to me that they'd be willing to trot themselves en mass to the far ends of the political horseshoe or spectrum.

I'll let the residents of Maine decide and respectfully stay out of it.

will be in their 80s during their tenure. Elect someone younger and get new ideas.

They are NOT going to vote for a fellow aging person

I think that's what's driving Platner's rallies (which are mostly elderly people). They want someone younger

Mills is a far better candidate than Plantar

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Experience... What a Concept!!

Age is a number... one size does not fit all.

I think half of them must get their political training in Asterix's village.