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kentuck

(115,122 posts)
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 09:59 AM Dec 10

After ten years, everyone still trying to understand, rationalize, and explain the actions of a narcissistic psychopath

There is no other explanation. He is a mentally sick and deformed human being.

There is no need to look for further explanations when he tears down the White House, bombs people in small boats, pardons hardcore criminals, extorts his billionaire "friends", threatens his political enemies, commits all sorts of criminal acts, and tears down our country with every passing day.

We have seen enough. There is no rationalizing his actions. He is a malevolent narcissist, which by definition is a cruel person, with no empathy for others.

This morning he is threatening the NYTimes because they reported on his health. In his ten years in the public spotlight, he has lied and refused to give the people any information about his health.

We do not need any further explanations about Donald J Trump.

He just needs to be gone so America can try to heal itself.

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After ten years, everyone still trying to understand, rationalize, and explain the actions of a narcissistic psychopath (Original Post) kentuck Dec 10 OP
Absolutely correct. Onthefly Dec 10 #1
Not everyone...just the complicit mass media. Ferrets are Cool Dec 10 #2
The only true analysis of him is from late night tv hosts Grim Chieftain Dec 10 #12
Medias Touch give pure facts. Ferrets are Cool Dec 10 #14
As do many other Substack writers. They are all independent media. Terry Moran went there when he was fired from Amaryllis Dec 10 #31
IOKIYAR Kid Berwyn Dec 10 #3
A veritable Queen of Hearts dalton99a Dec 10 #4
He's late for jail. Emile Dec 10 #5
Nail hit on the head! ABC123Easy Dec 10 #6
Well said, thank you. OLDMDDEM Dec 10 #7
Ten goddamned looooong years. CrispyQ Dec 10 #8
He is a mirror of some of us IbogaProject Dec 10 #9
I'm a baby-boomer myself and I'm embarrassed that so many boomers actually voted for him FakeNoose Dec 10 #13
Patton Oswalt once said that it was the aging population's revenge moment. OldBaldy1701E Dec 10 #30
League of Women Voters used to run real debates. And then there was the Fairness Doctrine. Quaint ain't it? Evolve Dammit Dec 10 #37
Late boomers & Gen X are more the ones who turned IbogaProject Dec 10 #41
Because, sadly, people are worse than we thought Joinfortmill Dec 10 #44
This is as good an explanation as any Seinan Sensei Dec 10 #45
But our daughters don't have to compete against boys in sports; or share a bathroom with them; or be burdened... Ol Janx Spirit Dec 10 #10
He is a mad man. That is all! flashman13 Dec 10 #11
AND popsdenver Dec 10 #20
Anyone from New York knew his (multiple) problems for far longer than 10 years. FailureToCommunicate Dec 10 #15
I'm also fed up with all the "look! This is fascism!" revelations JoseBalow Dec 10 #16
Someone who is a thin-skinned and easily wounded a weenie as he is has no business... 3catwoman3 Dec 10 #17
What sends me straight up a wall is when Alice B. Dec 10 #18
He is not the only one that is damaged in this administration liberalgunwilltravel Dec 10 #19
He is not the problem ibegurpard Dec 10 #21
Correct Cosmocat Dec 11 #47
Everyone still chases the shiny object. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 10 #22
Nor do we need anymore agingdem Dec 10 #23
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Dec 10 #24
Your description of narcissistic psychopath is exactly right DeeDeeNY Dec 10 #25
I'm no psychologist, but I always throught Trump sounded like a malignant narcissist. Lanius Dec 10 #26
Malignant. Narcissist. Psychopath. And that's just for STARTERS B.See Dec 10 #27
I wasn't on here till about ?2020 but I am a NYC'r. I regarded him as a... electric_blue68 Dec 10 #39
And yet, nobody stops him and nobody does anything about it. lees1975 Dec 10 #28
I've known since the early 80's he was scum kimbutgar Dec 10 #29
More - Explain why 77-million Americans VOTED FOR this narcissistic psychopath?? Grins Dec 10 #32
I think it is largely the media propaganda networks, like Fox News and right-wing radio dedl67 Dec 10 #34
four decades of Limbaugh and 25 of Faux News took its toll. No doubt about it. Now 10 years of Orange madness Evolve Dammit Dec 10 #38
Yep. That's what first "fertilized the fields". calimary Dec 10 #42
Thanks. I watched my Dad fall under the spell of Rush Limbaugh, so can see the power of right-wing media dedl67 Dec 11 #49
I want this nightmare to END. bluestarone Dec 10 #33
An Aug 2017 post pat_k Dec 10 #35
This should have been obvious 10 years ago?? Evolve Dammit Dec 10 #36
It was obvious pat_k Dec 11 #50
But MSM ignored it, and largely continues to. Evolve Dammit Dec 12 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author pat_k Dec 12 #52
The insanity of circular thinking. How could he be profoundly mentally ill? He is/was the U.S. president. pat_k Dec 12 #53
I hope you're right Pat. Evolve Dammit Dec 13 #55
They sycophants in his administration are disgusting and sickening on every level mdbl Dec 10 #40
But, Joe.....What bullshit. Joe is still rocking it with goddamn cancer Joinfortmill Dec 10 #43
Absolutely Correct. But Those of Us in the Blue Tend to Want to Analyze and Evaluate The Roux Comes First Dec 11 #46
We know what he is OnionPatch Dec 11 #48
How much does someone have to be to be such a fuck up and still live? 10mi 20? uponit7771 Dec 13 #54

Onthefly

(1,156 posts)
1. Absolutely correct.
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 10:13 AM
Dec 10

He needs no further explanation. But the news media does not acknowledge it as he is entertainment value for them.

Grim Chieftain

(1,269 posts)
12. The only true analysis of him is from late night tv hosts
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 11:11 AM
Dec 10

Colbert and Kimmel are ruthless and spot on.

Amaryllis

(10,987 posts)
31. As do many other Substack writers. They are all independent media. Terry Moran went there when he was fired from
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 05:14 PM
Dec 10

ABC for saying Stephen MIller was a hater. .

CrispyQ

(40,689 posts)
8. Ten goddamned looooong years.
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 10:44 AM
Dec 10

Just die you fuck. Just die. We are so fucking sick of your orange face & cruelty & self-adoration, you worthless piece of skin.

IbogaProject

(5,627 posts)
9. He is a mirror of some of us
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 10:47 AM
Dec 10

He is a direct reflection of selfish middling white folks and the wealthy who court their support.

FakeNoose

(40,223 posts)
13. I'm a baby-boomer myself and I'm embarrassed that so many boomers actually voted for him
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 11:24 AM
Dec 10

Why can't they see what he is? How could they have been so easily fooled?

OK I get it - not everyone in this country is a Democrat. We're not all liberal, that's fine. It's a big country and we know how to handle a myriad of viewpoints. Or at least we used to know, but now I'm not so sure.

Chump's been elected twice, and I blame the Boomers - my generation - for letting it get this far. We used to be so much better.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,225 posts)
30. Patton Oswalt once said that it was the aging population's revenge moment.
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 03:52 PM
Dec 10

Each generation, as its ages out, finds itself being left behind and ignored. So, they do one last evil thing, which is usually voting in the worst person running for president, just to make a statement and to get the last laugh.

I wish that theory made less sense than it does, to be honest.

Evolve Dammit

(21,506 posts)
37. League of Women Voters used to run real debates. And then there was the Fairness Doctrine. Quaint ain't it?
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 08:36 PM
Dec 10

Ol Janx Spirit

(737 posts)
10. But our daughters don't have to compete against boys in sports; or share a bathroom with them; or be burdened...
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 10:52 AM
Dec 10

...by making choices about their own bodies--so it is all worth it...





Seriously, for too many people that is all they need....

popsdenver

(1,571 posts)
20. AND
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:24 PM
Dec 10

don't forget SADIST..........when he sat alone and watched J6th for three hours he probably had an erection the whole time....
Hurting others directly or indirectly makes him Giddy with pride........His grand slam pleasure was not only J6th, but delaying Covid care, along with PPE and Vaccines. Authorities feel that at least 500,000 additional Americans died due to his actions/inactions. He also delayed, or didn't send, PPE to Blue States........ His spawn and Jared confiscated ALL PPE in the country, or new shipments coming into the country for their own personal "dispersing".......

FailureToCommunicate

(14,583 posts)
15. Anyone from New York knew his (multiple) problems for far longer than 10 years.
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 11:32 AM
Dec 10

His narcissistic psychopathology was splashed across the tabloids almost weekly for decades.

The rest of the country just had to find out the hard way.

JoseBalow

(9,182 posts)
16. I'm also fed up with all the "look! This is fascism!" revelations
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 11:34 AM
Dec 10

No shit, we are so way past all that. Welcome to the party.

3catwoman3

(28,609 posts)
17. Someone who is a thin-skinned and easily wounded a weenie as he is has no business...
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 11:45 AM
Dec 10

...in office of any kind, most especially POTUS.

Alice B.

(697 posts)
18. What sends me straight up a wall is when
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 11:58 AM
Dec 10

Talking heads and experts and panelists talk about what he needs to do or should do or should say, like he has EVER independently done the right thing or operated from a place of reason. Like that’s even a possibility. Or he’s ever demonstrated the capacity for change. Like he hasn’t shown us what he is over a freaking decade-plus.

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,086 posts)
19. He is not the only one that is damaged in this administration
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:11 PM
Dec 10

There are several extremely ill psychopaths in his administration. The two doing the most damage are Stephen Miller and Russell Vought. But they are hardly outliers. We have been facing an existential crisis since January 20th, 2025. And yet little of substance is being done to face the threat.

ibegurpard

(17,075 posts)
21. He is not the problem
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:27 PM
Dec 10

The millions of people that voted for him and continue to support him knowing full well what he is are the problems.
And organizations with anti-democratic and evil agendas that use him to enact their plans are the problems.

Cosmocat

(15,350 posts)
47. Correct
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 04:38 AM
Dec 11

I have had heartburn since the 90s seeing where this was headed. He highjacked it, but the gaslighting/brainwashing from the right which their people have guzzled up for going on a half century is what got us to the point to put the man child in charge, not once, but twice.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,866 posts)
22. Everyone still chases the shiny object.
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:28 PM
Dec 10

“Did you hear what he said?” “He’s crazy, demented, about to die!”

And blah, blah, blah.

Ten years and they still play his game. It’s pathetic.

agingdem

(8,769 posts)
23. Nor do we need anymore
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:38 PM
Dec 10

“understanding” the Trump voter screeds..they voted for a degenerate psychopath because they are racist fucks.. they voted for an amoral sadistic sub-human because they were never again going to “allow” a person of color to occupy the Oval Office..

DeeDeeNY

(3,902 posts)
25. Your description of narcissistic psychopath is exactly right
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 01:02 PM
Dec 10

What I can't figure out is his MAGA base who adore him. They scare me almost as much as he does.

Lanius

(645 posts)
26. I'm no psychologist, but I always throught Trump sounded like a malignant narcissist.
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 02:24 PM
Dec 10

While not a formal diagnosis, malignant narcissism describes a combination of traits from narcissistic personality disorder and antisocial, paranoid, and sadistic personality features. To my untrained eye, the label fits Trump to a tee.

B.See

(7,808 posts)
27. Malignant. Narcissist. Psychopath. And that's just for STARTERS
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 03:00 PM
Dec 10

It gets worse from there. Much worse.

But then again, I called it back then, in 2016, when he was calling Obama a non citizen (see: BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP), calling Brown immigrants 'criminals and rapists,' bragging about sexual assault upon women, (when he wasn't mocking them), hiding his tax reports, begging Russia to hack American servers, relishing the thought of shooting someone on 5th Avenue, and questioning the integrity, impartially of a judge of Hispanic heritage.

Said what would happen if he and his MAGATs gained control of all three branches of government.

But no, I was an alarmist, a concern troll, a doom-sayer, a chicken little and told what couldn't possibly happen because, ' gross usurpation of power' something something.

MANY of us knew back then. Not enough were listening, though.

electric_blue68

(25,965 posts)
39. I wasn't on here till about ?2020 but I am a NYC'r. I regarded him as a...
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 09:07 PM
Dec 10
loud boor. Didn't pay much attention to him otherwise.

But once he started insulting Obama that raised a Red Flag.Then all the other awful stuff you mentioned like "Russia, if you're listening", 5th Ave, grab em, etc. 🚨🚨🚨 😑😑😑

(and he should have been jailed after J6)

lees1975

(6,908 posts)
28. And yet, nobody stops him and nobody does anything about it.
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 03:03 PM
Dec 10

He goes on, we complain, he goes on, we complain, he goes on.......

kimbutgar

(26,832 posts)
29. I've known since the early 80's he was scum
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 03:05 PM
Dec 10

And I’m not that smart of a person but I saw then he was a major bullshitter and a mean person!

How anyone with a rational mind thinks he would have been a good president is beyond me and an idiot!

Grins

(9,246 posts)
32. More - Explain why 77-million Americans VOTED FOR this narcissistic psychopath??
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 05:34 PM
Dec 10

Trump is the disease, but they are the cause.

dedl67

(173 posts)
34. I think it is largely the media propaganda networks, like Fox News and right-wing radio
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 06:57 PM
Dec 10

These media have honed the tools of propaganda. They feed on the the emotions of resentment and fear to which most people are vulnerable to some degree, and amplify those emotions into hatred of anyone not a member of their 'tribe'. Fox News is pitched at about a 5th grade level of intellect, so it attracts a large viewership of followers who can only handle simplistic viewpoints. It becomes easy to brainwash those people into whatever Fox News wants them to think. In particular, liberals are demonized to the extent that Trump seems to be the only alternative. Anyway, that is my view.

Evolve Dammit

(21,506 posts)
38. four decades of Limbaugh and 25 of Faux News took its toll. No doubt about it. Now 10 years of Orange madness
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 08:40 PM
Dec 10

Welcome to DU!

dedl67

(173 posts)
49. Thanks. I watched my Dad fall under the spell of Rush Limbaugh, so can see the power of right-wing media
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:45 AM
Dec 11

bluestarone

(21,220 posts)
33. I want this nightmare to END.
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 05:40 PM
Dec 10

I really do not give a shit how it ends anymore! Just DIE ASSHOLE!!

pat_k

(12,665 posts)
35. An Aug 2017 post
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 07:23 PM
Dec 10

Run down of the criteria. He ticks every box, meeting more criteria than necessary for diagnosis:

DT is mentally ill: Antisocial Personality Disorder and Narcissistic Personality Disorder
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1846040

pat_k

(12,665 posts)
50. It was obvious
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 02:54 PM
Dec 11

At least it was crystal clear eight years ago.

From Aug 2017

DT is mentally ill: Antisocial Personality Disorder and Narcissistic Personality Disorder
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1846040

Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #51)

pat_k

(12,665 posts)
53. The insanity of circular thinking. How could he be profoundly mentally ill? He is/was the U.S. president.
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 10:35 PM
Dec 12

That just doesn't compute for far to many.

For decades from now, historians will be contending with the confluence of dysfunctional government, massive transfer of wealth from the many to the few, and simultaneous transfer to the old at the expense of the young, combined with a multi-trillion dollar propaganda infrastructure fomenting rage at the wrong targets, while alienating people from their own power to shape their government (and instead declaring the government of We the People as the enemy)... And the question of how, out of all of that, enough people lashed out with their votes and elected a clearly sick man -- and thereby, essentially said "burn it all the hell down."

Some way, some how, the sleeping giant of the American people will wake and roar, and perhaps give us a shot at actually bringing about transformative change.

I just hope it happens before I shuffle off this mortal coil.

mdbl

(8,129 posts)
40. They sycophants in his administration are disgusting and sickening on every level
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 10:07 PM
Dec 10

There is no way they look at themselves in the mirror.

As far as trying to figure out Dump's narcissism, I gave up on that long ago. What I keep trying to figure out is the good for shit GOP Congress that doesn't do anything to stop his destruction of our society.

The Roux Comes First

(2,156 posts)
46. Absolutely Correct. But Those of Us in the Blue Tend to Want to Analyze and Evaluate
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 12:01 AM
Dec 11

Until, as they say, "the cows come home," one of our several weak points. Fortunately, we have many more strong points, including the obvious ones of not being criminals, cheaters, grifters, and liars, all now conspicuous, distinctive repub trademarks.

OnionPatch

(6,312 posts)
48. We know what he is
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 05:44 AM
Dec 11

We need to figure out what makes so many people support him. They have to be as sick as he is.

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