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31 - 19 Indiana votes to reject the MAGA gerrymandered map. (Original Post) applegrove Dec 11 OP
Mother's revenge newdeal2 Dec 11 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author applegrove Dec 11 #4
I think it was self preservation a bit because gerrymandering applegrove Dec 11 #5
Good point. Yeah, I think they see the writing on the wall. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 11 #6
That is what CNN said. applegrove Dec 11 #18
I really love that take! wolfie001 Dec 11 #16
CNN applegrove Dec 11 #19
Here's the thing... radical noodle Dec 11 #7
Obama won 2008 Lulu KC Dec 11 #28
Very likely popsdenver Dec 11 #20
That is a good question ... ananda Dec 11 #21
Great news malaise Dec 11 #2
Gives me. some comfort to see this decency. mahina Dec 11 #3
I think it is never decency. lostnfound Dec 11 #15
(R) Incumbents have figured out that redistricting weakens their own re-election chances bucolic_frolic Dec 11 #8
Another sign of Trump;s lame duck status Big Blue Marble Dec 11 #9
I've been saying they wouldn't pass it. IN isn't MAGA as much as it is generational moderate repuke Cheezoholic Dec 11 #10
I did not know that. applegrove Dec 11 #11
They ran Pence out of the Gov's office over his insane abortion shit. Indy was covered with Pence get out of town signs Cheezoholic Dec 11 #13
I can very much live with that. Volaris Dec 11 #22
I live in Indiana IndyPepper Dec 11 #12
Thanks malaise Dec 11 #17
Explained well Lulu KC Dec 11 #27
Thank you. Was looking for an informed explanation Raven123 Dec 11 #29
thank you for the outstanding assessment Skittles Dec 11 #38
Thanks! Ruby the Liberal Dec 12 #41
Honestly surprised angrychair Dec 11 #14
Cool headline on nbc.com senseandsensibility Dec 11 #23
Here comes the punisments from Trump gay texan Dec 11 #24
Which is being ignored more and more as Flim Flam Man becomes more and more MarineCombatEngineer Dec 11 #36
The heritage foundation can take their threat from earlier and stick it where the sun dont shine Mr. Sparkle Dec 11 #25
YAY YAY YAY Lulu KC Dec 11 #26
Lol He is now on CNN saying he wasn't senseandsensibility Dec 11 #30
Very brabe of them considering the bullying from the Whate House Warpy Dec 11 #31
Yup. All the threatening and thuggery Trump is doing is just hitting applegrove Dec 11 #32
Color me surprised duckworth969 Dec 11 #33
good . AllaN01Bear Dec 11 #34
.... MarineCombatEngineer Dec 11 #35
BREAKING NEWS: 31 Indiana Republicans have a SPINE! Jack Valentino Dec 11 #37
It is not often I am proud of this state EnergizedLib Dec 11 #39
Great news. The beginning of the end for Trump? Martin68 Dec 12 #40

newdeal2

(5,230 posts)
1. Mother's revenge
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 04:55 PM
Dec 11

Aka did Pence have anything to do with this?

Either way, quite funny. I wonder if they will lose their funding like Trump threatened to do.

Response to newdeal2 (Reply #1)

applegrove

(131,608 posts)
5. I think it was self preservation a bit because gerrymandering
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 04:57 PM
Dec 11

would have spread out Republican voters really thin making them extra vulnerable to a huge blue wave election. That was part of it I think.

radical noodle

(10,553 posts)
7. Here's the thing...
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 04:59 PM
Dec 11

trump better think long and hard before taking away all funding for Indiana. Hoosiers may lean Republican, but they've been known to vote for Democrats if they're pissed at repubs.

popsdenver

(2,092 posts)
20. Very likely
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 06:03 PM
Dec 11

The Republicans have already been with holding all kinds of money and assistance that was designated for Colorado, and other BLUE states also, and is making life miserable for us Colorado citizens......The Rural Colorado, and Colorado Springs voters that voted for him are already learning the effects of having voted for Trump and other Republicans.........The Republicans are already throwing them under the bus, along with us, once the RepubliCONs won the election........

My message to everyone of those REPUBLICAN MAGA Voters that are NOW also getting screwed over royal and complaining...

YOU GREW IT,..... YOU CHEW IT,........ MUNCH....MUNCH....MUNCH....

ananda

(34,778 posts)
21. That is a good question ...
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 06:09 PM
Dec 11

I mean, they did it even in the face of serious
threats by Trump to cut off all financing to the
state.

That's pretty impressive.

lostnfound

(17,473 posts)
15. I think it is never decency.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 05:32 PM
Dec 11

More likely they realized that some of them would actually be putting themselves at risk.

bucolic_frolic

(54,791 posts)
8. (R) Incumbents have figured out that redistricting weakens their own re-election chances
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 05:00 PM
Dec 11

Redistricting makes them vulnerable to a Blue Wave election, which is a possibility now.

Big Blue Marble

(5,683 posts)
9. Another sign of Trump;s lame duck status
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 05:05 PM
Dec 11

Imagine Republicans standing up to Trump, when the law firms and universities would
not. I predict his threats are hollow too, further weakening him.

Cheezoholic

(3,653 posts)
10. I've been saying they wouldn't pass it. IN isn't MAGA as much as it is generational moderate repuke
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 05:06 PM
Dec 11

And its ingrained into every repuke Hoosier to not let the Fed push you around. They hate the Fed Govt here more than they may not like liberals lol.

Cheezoholic

(3,653 posts)
13. They ran Pence out of the Gov's office over his insane abortion shit. Indy was covered with Pence get out of town signs
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 05:19 PM
Dec 11

FatAss threw him a lifeline because he was done here. This state non gerrymandered is probably 45/55 blue/red. The state legislature knows this all to well.

IndyPepper

(61 posts)
12. I live in Indiana
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 05:14 PM
Dec 11

so allow me to add some perspective. There was a strong upswell of opposition from Indiana citizens of all political stripes, and to their credit 31 of the Senators listened to their voters and acted accordingly. Democrats were especially organized and vocal in spearheading the opposition, but part of the opposition came from rural voters in the hinterlands who feared that a map that carved up Indianapolis would lump them in with big-city voters and dilute their voices. They especially feared the rich monied Republicans of Indy ignoring their concerns.

There is a very strong sentiment against Indianapolis in the General Assembly, as evidenced by its history of passing legislation that disadvantages the city to the benefit of other parts of the state. Of course, that's terribly shortsighted, given that Indianapolis is far and above the most important economic engine in the state.

One final note: The state is already gerrymandered, with Republicans holding 73 percent of the seats in the General Assembly and 80 percent of the Congressional delegation despite only receiving, on average, about 55 percent of the vote statewide. So, a fair map, which our Trump lackey governor Mike Braun claimed this rejected monstrosity would be, would mean Republicans would not have a supermajority in the General Assembly and the Congressional delegation would be 5-4 in favor of Republicans. But, of course, fairness is not the aim of Trump and his sycophants.

Skittles

(170,849 posts)
38. thank you for the outstanding assessment
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 08:57 PM
Dec 11

I always appreciate getting the "boots on the ground" reports

Ruby the Liberal

(26,623 posts)
41. Thanks!
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 03:05 PM
Dec 12

I heard a pundit talking the other night about unintended consequences with spreading out the GOP voters too thin. Sounds like you guys were all over it.

And Welcome to DU

angrychair

(12,092 posts)
14. Honestly surprised
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 05:24 PM
Dec 11

But it's awesome that they stood their ground. Hopefully they don't back down.

senseandsensibility

(24,758 posts)
23. Cool headline on nbc.com
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 06:45 PM
Dec 11

referring to this as a "major rebuke to Trump". He is just growing weaker and weaker and is starting to lose his grip, even on the base. Now we just need the WH press corps to start growing a spine.

Mr. Sparkle

(3,696 posts)
25. The heritage foundation can take their threat from earlier and stick it where the sun dont shine
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 06:50 PM
Dec 11

Well done Indiana.

senseandsensibility

(24,758 posts)
30. Lol He is now on CNN saying he wasn't
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:06 PM
Dec 11

very involved in the Indiana redistricting. Yeah, sure, trumpie. He also said it's only a couple of seats. CNN also reported that Don Jr. threatened to campaign personally against any Rs who voted against it. Guess that didn't faze them.

Warpy

(114,547 posts)
31. Very brabe of them considering the bullying from the Whate House
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:08 PM
Dec 11

to ;cut off all funding to the state. Part of me hopes Fatso is stupid enough to follow through with it, I imagine articles of impeachment will be filed immediately and they might have a chance of sticking, since Indiana is one of the reddest states in the country and Republicans will be the ones trying to oust him.

I just bought popcorn today, irst time in a couple of years.

applegrove

(131,608 posts)
32. Yup. All the threatening and thuggery Trump is doing is just hitting
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:21 PM
Dec 11

the ground with a thud these days.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,970 posts)
35. ....
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 08:43 PM
Dec 11
Speaking to reporters, House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) said it was “disappointing,” but added he was “very, very bullish” about next year’s elections despite Indiana’s rejection of a new map.

“We have better candidates, better message, and we have a lot to show the people, so we’ll continue our momentum,” he said.


Mikey has to be the most cluesless Repig in Congress, he's either in denial of the tsunami coming against repigs in Congress in 2026, or he's a liar, or both.
Whatever it is, please Mikey, proceed with your message to the American people.

EnergizedLib

(3,003 posts)
39. It is not often I am proud of this state
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 10:19 PM
Dec 11

Last edited Tue Dec 16, 2025, 12:18 AM - Edit history (1)

This is one of those very rare instances.

Of course, the senator from where I’m at voted yes. Ugh.

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