I was brought up Catholic but reading the old testament I just could not square up the sociopath that we were supposed to worship.

I do a reasonable amount of work for the Catholic church, restoration and new woodwork one company I sub for the salesman was such a bullshitter he would get off the phone and say I got to go to confession tonight.

I love the challenge of designing furniture to fit architecture for a church restoration but just can't buy the fairy tales.

but theirs were usually upside down....

and maybe Karoline's should be upside down as well!
(That would be more honest!)