It’s “How much”. The large number of photos already available showed inappropriate contact.

And did he pass them around to the other guys for the right price.

Tiff isn't that attractive.

Interesting perspective...

Only once or twice in White House photos and one was of her wedding. No photos of her on Donald's lap. No TV appearances with her. No saying, "If she wasn't my daughter...." because he wouldn't.

Meanwhile, photos of Ivanka were everywhere.

More interesting, the post was alerted on. It is still standing.

Just found it interesting that that was your perspective.

because her mother didn't allow it. Seems she was smarter than Ivana in this aspect.

I know, $$$.

$ I guess? While putting her own child at risk?

power, money and (then) good looks. Later, she came down to earth!

was that she completely bought the "I'm gonna make you a star" line. So the contacts in the entertainment industry were probably part of the "appeal" as well.

Is she really all that innocent?

Then legally, yes, she was innocent.

Ivana is the ex-wife, Ivanka the daughter

Probably for very good reasons.

Even so, the distance would mean Tiffany wasn't around him as much.

I don't know who alerted on you, but some people may feel you missed an important point about rape.
A point I made in response to you.

That most rapists don't care about looks.
It is a crime of violence, humiliation, sexual control.

Most men can get or buy consensual sex with women of any appearance they like.
But rapists don't want that, they like the cruelty and terror they instill.

All of that said, from a clinical perspective some rapists and serial killers are looking for a certain appearance.
So their victims tend to look alike.

And in the particular case of the Trump rapes, appearance of the victim does seem to be an issue.
Stormy and EJean Carroll were both attractive blonds. Two of his wives were attractive blonds.
His daughter he lusts after is an attractive blond.

So I think your comment is legit, but it rubbed some women the wrong way for the reason I outlined.

ETA I wanted to add a point that we should consider. For Trump, it may not be about attractiveness per se, but
about APPEARANCE. Trump's mother was an attractive blond and I wonder if his anger at his mother is a core
issue in his rapes and crimes. Many serial killers of women have mother issues, a lot of anger at the women in their life.

Indeed, we have heard Trump himself retaliate against rape accusations by saying that the accuser wasn't attractive enough for him to rape - for example, in the case of E. Jean Carroll, if I recall correctly.

So maybe not really about attractiveness but appearance.

Not attractive enough to win the privelege of being raped by him. That's pretty low.

As his defense he tells his rape victims that they are too ugly for him to even consider raping them.

Only beautiful women are "lucky" enough for the privilege.

but I believe Trump didn't think she was very pretty. Apparently Ivanka was more his "type". It is so bizarre how many times Trump told a woman, "You remind me of my daughter". I've never seen a man do that over and over again.

after all the plastic surgeries he had done on her "ordinary, face, and body" as a young teen. She didn't look like anything like she did on daddy's lap after that. He had her carved into his own little Barbie doll.

She was a rather ordinary looking child. Now she is so plastic and has that fake breathless voice.

What I find particularly disturbing is when he tells women they look "like my daughter", they were often women he hit on or slept with. He is really sick man.

Maybe Trump demeaned Tiffany out of resentment, because he wasn't allowed to have sex with her.

That would fit with his character.

rather than admit they weren't capable of obtaining them. It's that damn ol' ego thing.

SMH...

Males obviously have little understanding about the danger women and children face.
Male on female crime is not always something they know much about.

started in on Ivanka by having a ton of plastic surgery on her during her adolescent years, molding into what he felt was her best look...........

Seeing her in Daddy's lap and his hand placement made me nauseous.......Places where no father WOULD EVER place their hands..

I believe that is why she has so much power over Trump today.......

It is a crime of violence and humiliation.

Pedos don't care about their "looks". They care more about their age and sometimes their sex. But it's mostly about corruption, cruelty and access. Not so much which girl is prettier but which little girl can they get their hands on without being caught.

Ivanka was definitely sexually abused because her mother didn't protect her as well. That's why pedo Trump goes on and on about her 'looks". Because Ivanka was more easily available to him. She was his favorite because he got to abuse her regularly. When Ivanka becomes an old lady and her abuser is dead, she's going to come out with it all.

I bet the young boys were also sexually abused by the pedo Trump.

He's an evil disgusting piece of crap and the MAGAts should be ashamed for supporting a pedo.

I hope you'll think about this.

"Attractiveness" has nothing to do with whether a person is a victim of sexual assault. It is all about having power over another person.

90 year old women are sexually assaulted. Three month old babies are sexually assaulted. Predators look for victims who are vulnerable, and often those are not the prettiest or most popular people.

If you were a sexual predator you would know this. Based on your post, I guess that you've never sexually assaulted anybody - because you don't know how the predators think.

Lots of predators like to brag about what they've done, so people who study their behavior know it's about power, not attraction.

gain weight, not have plastic surgery, etc.

Aside from golf, how would the Felon interact with a young teenage daughter when it was his weekend? Did Marla allow her creepy ex-husband to be alone with her, or only if his other kids were present?

They were only married a few years, unlike his marriage to Ivana which lasted until the first 3 kids were in their teens.

Marla Maples and Chump separated and divorced rather suddenly, and she moved out of his life immediately. I believe there were several years where Chump never saw Tiffany, or his time with her was supervised and restricted. He always paid child support and her education expenses, etc. but wasn't close to her emotionally or physically. I'm sure Marla was over-protective out of fear for her daughter's innocence (and safety.)

At the time, the rumors flying around were that Marla cheated on him, and he dumped her because of her infidelity. I've never believed that for a second, knowing what a liar he's been his entire life.

Divorced 1999. Were these not the years when the trump/epstein friendship was strongest?

Supposedly they were buddies until Chump screwed his "friend" out of a real estate deal in 2005 (?). But it also might have been that Chump learned of Epstein's Florida conviction on the morals charge, and decided he didn't want to be friends after that.

Who knows, who cares....

Across the country and kept close eye on her.

"She wasn't my type."

She would be fair game to the rapist and chief.

but you always seem to beat me.

good morning irish dem.

Good morning rampartd.

Unfortunately being cynical is the best way to get to the truth these days.

What dark things about these people have you been thinking about?

the drugs are extreme and addictive

subliminal advertising on stations i don't watch. or do i?

the crime is the private equity hostile takeover of the world. the rest, even epstein is all misdirection.

that grok is the real boss of this mob.

the plan is to cull the population by starvation and communicable disease, leaving just enough, properly brain chipped population to make them feel respected.

and that is just the last few hours.

work in progress "twelve days of x mas"

1. rob reiner murdered.
2. trump tasteless comment (a refrain in itself)
3. susie wiles trump
4. Jack smith testimony
5. Little Miss Makeawish blames Biden for breaking her perfect universe
“On the fifth day of Christmas dear leader gave to me
All Biden’s Fault”
Or 5. The patriot games?
6. release of fake, redacted and sanitized "epstein material."
7.still a "wonderful secret"




11. santa delivers fireworks to the naughty children of caraccas

12. Megachurch choirs sing " Peace on earth” and Pass the Plate.

thanks for the psychological assistance.

it is impossible not to think of things even Darker I_D............

There is more we don't know about yet.

In my mind... in my opinion... there is no doubt that Ivanka has been sexually molested. Only question I have is was it incest only, or was she shared amongst his friends, too?

If so, it could be one reason why she has no problem seeing him humiliated, demeaned, and thrown away the way things are happening today. If she'd any reason to care about him, she'd have put a stop to all the nonsense and put him in one of the best memory care homes in the country. Instead, we have him running all over the country making a fool of himself and us.

When his own wife has to warn mothers of 14-year-old girls not to let them near her husband, you know things are really, really bad.

for agreeing, or not agreeing enough. Discouraging, at best.

All this lusting after his own child.

Ivanka at the very least was thoroughly abused by her father. i can be wrong but I don't think I am.

Iirc, after their divorce, Tiffany lived primarily with her mom in CA, with occasional visits to her dad; while after Ivana was divorced, Ivanka and the boys lived with their dad.

My favorite was Dylan Ratigan who was exposing crony capitalism.

At least on freespeechtv.org they talk the talk.

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This is an excellent one to spread on social media and email to others.

Quite a few websites are publishing this conversation.

You do good work here.

Too bad Maples doesn't have half the courage the Epstein survivors demonstrate.

It's easy to criticize her but so what if she confirmed that quote? What would change? He hasn't been held responsible for anything.

I keep remembering Stormy saying she was threatened by Piggy thugs while putting her child in a car seat. Ambushed while unsuspecting and vulnerable with her child!

I can only imagine what horrors these women and girls have to live with.

Of course Marla Maples denies saying what she said, just like Ivana Trump denied that Krasnov dragged her down a flight of stairs by her hair.

Michael Cohen stated that Krasnov has never been in a physical confrontation his entire life, I think Cohen was only talking about physical confrontations with men.

primarily because ms maples has had years and years and years to say it in public. if it is true, fuck her.

from the first meeting.

Not to talk but this quote is from someone who spoke to her before she was divorced.

She married him 2 months after Tiffany was born in 1993
They separated in 1997.
Divorced in 1999

And their "safe" parent never comes to the child's rescue or says anything. Then add money to the mix. Lots and lots of stolen loot to pass around.

It's sometimes easier for parents to ignore it, blame the child or just protect their source of income and keep quiet.

I hope those kids get some serious therapy.

that if she felt that strongly that she warned someone to stay far away from her ex, she should have told the world.
I'm sure he would have impoverished her for breaking an NDA or some shit if she did. I'm trying not to be judgmental, but if he'd been taken down 20 or 30 years ago, countless numbers of humans would have been spared so much pain.

this is a criticism not focused solely on marla maples. Dozens, hundreds, who know how many people tucked their consciences far, far away from themselves in order to maintain their lifestyle. money matters more than people. like guns. guns matter than people too, but that's only because of the money.

when it comes to this particular predator, untold damage. for decades.

Krasnov has long been tied to the NYC mafia, among other things. Marla knew what was going on, and didn't want to end up at the bottom of the East River. And now she's still keeping her silence because she saw what happened to Ivana.

but my feeling is if he was in with the mafia HE"D be dead by now. not necessarily because of his treatment toward women but because he's always been a deadbeat.

How sad. It amazes me that there is no conscience there. No empathy for all of the people that diaper don has harmed. Same with Ivana and the current one. Initially, I could see how they felt that they had to protect their children. But the children are all grown now.

She might as well have slept with Hitler at this point.

Mainly because she stayed with him the least amount of time. But if she knew about the abuse and didn't publicly disclose it she's garbage as far as I'm concerned.

Certain men's anger is something to fear.
You kindly warn and walk away.

But she's still garbage.

Just in case and one rarely gets a second chance with a predator.
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At the time, I was much younger and a bit stupid to be honest. Still voted Democratic though. Union Blue all the way!

The answer? Trump got away with being a predator pedophile for so long and yet was elect president and was even reelected after January 6, 2021, is due solely to Fox, Putin's government operations, and the other rightwing propaganda influences.

Still it boggles the mind.

That's the effing truth.

While Trump was running for POTUS in 2015?

Would have been nice to know the future POTUS was not safe for young girls to be around.

They’re enjoying their rich people tax breaks while everything else burns.

bankruptcies, and his racism all well known prior to the 2016 election but the “”liberal media” choose not to
to talk about those facts but instead a Russian fabricated story about Hillary and her emails. The fix was
in by T.P.T.B..

She probably hasn't had a good night's sleep since she married that fat orange imbecile.

Makes me wonder why the 3 eldest Trump kids are still talking with their father.

Ivanka is a bit removed since he married Jared but that’s largely due to profiting (or at least getting debt erased) from being in Trump’s inner circle.

Eric manages the winery near Charlottesville. His wife has completely taken advantage of being in Trump world.

Jr…..🙄. Now they try to portray him as a financial wheeler and dealer but, again, it’s just because he works for his father.

Country's being flushed down the toilet and they don't care. Where's Voltaire when we need him? Modern version of 'Candide'

wants us to be more concerned with tan suits and stuttering . . . .

Marla Maples denied that she made a comment telling a woman to keep her daughter away from President Donald Trump, The New York Times reported.

“I would always protect young women in any way I could,” Maples told the outlet. “But I am sure I didn’t specifically say that about my daughter’s father.”

https://www.newsweek.com/marla-maples-responds-to-claim-she-warned-woman-to-keep-daughter-from-trump-11239564

She's garbage? Greedy? Stupid? Etc.

How many others, including men, are walking around right now, with complete knowledge of what this Piggy filth have done to women and girls for DECADES, and said nothing.

Marla has probably lived under a shadow of terror ever since she met and experienced the real "garbage!"

If she had confirmed this it would change absolutely NOTHING, except for maybe her and her family's life expectancy, because that Piggy filth is never held accountable for anything.

And blaming her effectively removes the responsibility from him. It's always win-win for him.

commenting on Tiffany Trump's looks v. Ivanka - people could easily pull up photos of Ivanka pre-surgery to see that she was not a classically attractive girl.

I believe I read that Marla Maples moved herself and her daughter to California to make sure Tiffany didn't have much contact with the Pedo in Chief.

gets around!

Women supporting women!

Virginia Giuffre's memoir. It was a hard go. Especially the part where she was trying to get someone to listen to her and hold Epstein to account. I can't imagine Marla, especially in those pre-Me-Too days, would have been in a much better place, as far as being able to speak up and be believed.
So when I think about that, I find it a little harder to blame the Mrs. Trumps.

She seems to have walked in with her eyes wide open.

but I think she was basically trafficked herself -- via the use of the modeling agency as a front for sex work. But, as an immigrant, she had "skin in the game" and couldn't exactly speak up and blow up the whole operation without danger of deportation. An additional issue was that, in her mid-late 30s, she was running up on her expiration date in the "modeling" industry (especially when it was so much in the hands of literal pedophiles...) and had to find her meal ticket/"retirement plan" fast.

Ugh, I feel so dirty (kindof) defending Melania. Time for a shower.