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Robert Reich: Brace Yourself for the AI Bubble (Original Post) highplainsdem Dec 20 OP
It already popped. SonOfNebanaube Dec 20 #1
Is there any kind of organized attempt to steer AI? GreatGazoo Dec 20 #2
There's no single organization for opposition to AI, and unfortunately few politicians willing to take highplainsdem Dec 20 #3
The EU passed the AI Act meadowlander Dec 20 #4
What constitutes a win in the 21st century? hunter Dec 20 #5
thanks for that GreatGazoo Dec 21 #6

GreatGazoo

(4,476 posts)
2. Is there any kind of organized attempt to steer AI?
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 07:17 PM
Dec 20

I have seen the resistance to data centers but that seems to be locally organized.

There are many fronts for this thing -- unemployment, copyright and liability violations, mental health issues, democracy issues. For most of us, the stock market is the least of such concerns. Also, if Deep Seek, tariffs and everyone yelling "BUBBLE!!" didn't pop it then maybe it isn't a bubble.

Where can I find a discussion about what people are doing to steer AI legislation and to promote thought leadership that includes the priorities of most people ?

highplainsdem

(60,021 posts)
3. There's no single organization for opposition to AI, and unfortunately few politicians willing to take
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 11:10 PM
Dec 20

a strong stand against Silicon Valley. A number of states have passed laws to regulate AI, but Trump intends to use the federal government to punish states doing that. The AI bros have bribed him, and he'll protect them from regulation as much as he can.

The AI companies are planning to use their incredible wealth to keep politicians who might regulate them from getting elected or re-elected. I posted about that in LBN. https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143585136

Unions like SAG-AFTRA.and WGA have had some success fighting AI.

Thought leadership? There are prominent spokespeople, like Gary Marcus, Ed Zitron and Ed Newton-Rex. Lots of artists of all types have spoken out against AI. There are tech journalists like Gil Duran covering how dangerous the AI and crypto bros are - how anti-democracy many of them.are. Tech magazines are bringing up the problems AI is causing (and AI bros have been whining about that). Unfortunately too many MSM outlets are compromised by tech bro owners or corporate investments in AI.

Decades ago there was an international organization called Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility. I knew one of its main spokesmen well, and I wish CPSR were still around. One of the more prominent AI critics, Grady Booch, has mentioned that he belonged to CPSR.

At this point Trump, Vance (backed by Peter Thiel) and the AI companies are a combined threat.

Bernie Sanders is the US politician speaking out the most against AI recently.

Australia's been better than the US in standing up to the AI bros. The UK's Labour Party is unfortunately trying to pander way too much to Silicon Valley, alienating a lot of British artists, which is really stupid of Labour. The EU is doing better.

There's opposition to AI around the world. The AI companies have to be fought on a lot of fronts.

But we do need more politicians to speak out. The Democratic Party should be united in opposition to the AI bros and crypto bros, because they are NOT on the side of Democrats. The way they've aligned with Trump has made that clear.

meadowlander

(5,097 posts)
4. The EU passed the AI Act
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 11:21 PM
Dec 20
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/topics/en/article/20230601STO93804/eu-ai-act-first-regulation-on-artificial-intelligence

The problem with local efforts trying to stop development of AI instead of, as you say, steer it in the right direction, is that China is also developing AI and whoever gets there first wins the 21st Century (and probably the next few after that).

So better to agree to a global ethical framework for development and regulation than to try to stop data centres from being built or suing individual companies for copyright infringement.

hunter

(40,375 posts)
5. What constitutes a win in the 21st century?
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 11:56 PM
Dec 20

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A worldwide police state?

I think I'll pass.

GreatGazoo

(4,476 posts)
6. thanks for that
Sun Dec 21, 2025, 11:48 AM
Dec 21
Transparency requirements

Generative AI, like ChatGPT, will not be classified as high-risk, but will have to comply with transparency requirements and EU copyright law:

Disclosing that the content was generated by AI
Designing the model to prevent it from generating illegal content
Publishing summaries of copyrighted data used for training


All much needed.

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